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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A Kwik Kwiz -- Did ISIS originate in Iraq or Syria? What caused it? (Answer before reading.) [View all]Armstead
(47,803 posts)16. You ought to read the Atlantic article again
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By 2011, when the U.S. troop withdrawal was complete, AQI was being run by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and had morphed from a largely foreign to a largely Iraqi operation. Baghdadi himself, as his name suggests, is local. The absence of foreigners made it easier for the Sons of Iraq and their kin to ignore previous resentments against the group. There was also another rebranding: AQI was now better known as the Islamic State of Iraq, or ISI.
Baghdadi took Zarqawis tactics and supercharged them. The group is now able and willing to seize and control territory, not simply send suicide bombers to their death.With thousands of armed men now at his disposal, Baghdadi opened a second front against the Shiitesin Syria, where there was a largely secular uprising against President Bashar al-Assad.
Baghdadi took Zarqawis tactics and supercharged them. The group is now able and willing to seize and control territory, not simply send suicide bombers to their death.With thousands of armed men now at his disposal, Baghdadi opened a second front against the Shiitesin Syria, where there was a largely secular uprising against President Bashar al-Assad.
and the BBC
IS can trace its roots back to the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian. In 2004, a year after the US-led invasion of Iraq, Zarqawi pledged allegiance to Osama Bin Laden and formed al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), which became a major force in the insurgency......After Zarqawi's death in 2006, AQI created an umbrella organisation, Islamic State in Iraq (ISI). ISI was steadily weakened by the US troop surge and the creation of Sahwa (Awakening) councils by Sunni Arab tribesmen who rejected its brutality. Baghdadi, a former US detainee, became leader in 2010 and began rebuilding ISI's capabilities. By 2013, it was once again carrying out dozens of attacks a month in Iraq.It had also joined the rebellion against President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, setting up the al-Nusra Front.In April 2013, Baghdadi announced the merger of his forces in Iraq and Syria and the creation of "Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant" (Isis). The leaders of al-Nusra and al-Qaeda rejected the move, but fighters loyal to Baghdadi split from al-Nusra and helped Isis remain in Syria.
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A Kwik Kwiz -- Did ISIS originate in Iraq or Syria? What caused it? (Answer before reading.) [View all]
Armstead
Apr 2016
OP
Tsk, that's "beyond absurd". ISIS was formed in Syria the former SOS has spoken
riderinthestorm
Apr 2016
#4
Isis began "in Syria, where there was a largely secular uprising against President Bashar al-Assad"
Henhouse
Apr 2016
#12
That "foolish old man" knew better than to attack Iraq unlike the foolish woman who lied about it:
beam me up scottie
Apr 2016
#15
You should quit, because you are just making yourself look worse and worse.[n/t]
Maedhros
Apr 2016
#26
"well get the *reformist* IS, and then we'll go after the REAL threat--Iran! and Russia!"
MisterP
Apr 2016
#25