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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Shed no tears for independent voters who didn't get to mess up the NY primary. [View all]LisaM
(27,811 posts)63. Not on this forum. Having a closed primary is treated like voter disenfranchisement here.
Everyone is welcome to belong or not to a political party but there are good reasons for having a closed primary - one of which is, if one party has chosen its candidate, there is nothing stopping voters in successive primaries from crossing over to cause trouble for the other party. That's also part of the reason for having party mainstays as super delegates.
Caucuses are far more disenfranchising than closed primaries yet I don't see anyone doubling down and trying to sue to make them more fair and open. What if you're a caregiver? How do you make it to a caucus? What if you don't have a car (not having a car, BTW, is not a valid reason in Washington for not attending a caucus).
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Shed no tears for independent voters who didn't get to mess up the NY primary. [View all]
Gomez163
Apr 2016
OP
And let's remember when you want an Independent to help us win the GE ....that they
bkkyosemite
Apr 2016
#4
How do you know it's "usually a faux hipster that's too cool to be in a real party"? Do you...
ChisolmTrailDem
Apr 2016
#6
Hipsters became the subject of parody years ago. They are routinely mocked in all forms of media now
LonePirate
Apr 2016
#28
No I am trying to suggest that people who are pissed off now, in the primary, will not
jmg257
Apr 2016
#107
Ah - gotcha! She has indeed had her fair share of 'ignorant/naive young voter' comments.
jmg257
Apr 2016
#110
I think you can make an argument for closed primaries without coming across to way you have
Ash_F
Apr 2016
#24
Not on this forum. Having a closed primary is treated like voter disenfranchisement here.
LisaM
Apr 2016
#63
closed primaries are the artisanal hipster pickle of voting rights issues nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2016
#10
these are people who didn't care whether it was Bill de Blasio or Christie Quinn
geek tragedy
Apr 2016
#34
The Other Day I read one Thread With About 200 Ugly, Vicious Adjectives Describing Clinton
Stallion
Apr 2016
#15
An impulse voter ... not serious enough, or dedicated enough to declare a party affiliation.
NurseJackie
Apr 2016
#26
You'll Be Needing the Same Knee-Pads-Your Vote Isn't Any More Important than Every Other One
Stallion
Apr 2016
#45
Any Independent supporting Sanders who is indifferent towards Trump or Cruz deserves no begging.
LonePirate
Apr 2016
#51
I paid good money to join this Country Club, you can't just start letting everybody in.
DefenseLawyer
Apr 2016
#41
last oct when i realized the ny cut off was before single debate, i was kind of schocked
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#72
if Hillary is the nominee Indi's will remember when it comes to vote in the GE
azurnoir
Apr 2016
#70
In other words, someone who approves of corruption and big power to big corporations
AZ Progressive
Apr 2016
#74
"how dare the commoners we drummed out of the party try and take it back by VOTING"
MisterP
Apr 2016
#78
What about the voters whose D registration was changed to inactive, unaffiliated or indie?
peacebird
Apr 2016
#85
A REAL party. Does that include loyalty oaths? Secret handshakes? High grades? Shoe size?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2016
#109