2016 Postmortem

CompanyFirstSergeant

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78. If Obama....

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:51 PM

Apr 2016

1. Met with Snowden in contemplation of a pardon,
2. Ditto for Chelsea Manning
3. Toned down the drone strikes
4. Leashed the NSA

He would be close to the top in my lifetime.

Right now, no one holds that spot.

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Question: Who was the last Democratic President Bernie supporters were happy with? [View all] DCBob Apr 2016 OP

President Bigfooticus A. Unicorn onehandle Apr 2016 #1

Hal Jordan or John Stewart, would be my guesses. Certainly not Kyle Raynor. nt IamMab Apr 2016 #54

None of them could hold a candle to Salaak. Codeine Apr 2016 #73

What is wrong in JFK setting the standards? egalitegirl Apr 2016 #2

Well that was like more than 5 decades ago. DCBob Apr 2016 #8

That is not the point egalitegirl Apr 2016 #34

Please see post #36. Adrahil Apr 2016 #51

Actually, I was never particularly a JFK fan. Hortensis Apr 2016 #9

Bernie didn't like JFK ... apparently Bernie said something about JFK making him feel sick. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #25

JFK was a war monger by Sandernista standards. Adrahil Apr 2016 #36

Kennedy was before Medicare creeksneakers2 Apr 2016 #88

He was handsome and well spoken and had decent ideals The Second Stone Apr 2016 #89

I don't expect everyone president to be perfect, but hollysmom Apr 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #4

yes. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #11

Really was and is a good person. All the way around. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #16

Great guy. Great statesman. Kind person.... Corporate666 Apr 2016 #91

Did you like his union busting or deregulation more? Onlooker Apr 2016 #38

BirdieBro doesn't like all these facts and shit uponit7771 Apr 2016 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #44

No one is name calling anyone, BirdieBro is the podium bird... don't be sensitive people uponit7771 Apr 2016 #45

Uh huh. CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #48

Reasonably happy with various, Carter first unc70 Apr 2016 #72

If Obama.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #78

That's fair Onlooker Apr 2016 #80

lol! nt ecstatic Apr 2016 #86

Excellent Person..... weak leader. Adrahil Apr 2016 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #59

I agree. But to be fair, he was dealt a shitty hand. Adrahil Apr 2016 #63

The hand written note... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #65

The left found hard to try to deny Carter the Democratic nomination oberliner Apr 2016 #103

JFK made him "sick" so that won't work. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #5

what made him 'sick' was JFK's stance on Cuba and that was it period azurnoir Apr 2016 #61

Castro supporters were not fans of JFK, so you're confirming my point nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #75

Bernie liked JFK on his other stances especially civil rights in the US it was JFK's Cuba stance azurnoir Apr 2016 #92

Did Kennedy's ramp-up of Vietnam "advisors" bother Sanders? OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #93

Don't put words in my mouth Mr. Know-It-All. I love Obama. n/t Avalux Apr 2016 #6

So Bernie wanting to primary Obama in 2012 was okay with you? DCBob Apr 2016 #15

Bernie wanted to primary Obama to achieve a policy goal JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #56

"Carter?? I dont think so." Why don't you think so? eShirl Apr 2016 #7

Carter. k8conant Apr 2016 #10

You tell me.. I just trying to figure out the Bernie supporter mentality. DCBob Apr 2016 #12

Yes, he certainly was far better that the union-busting Reagan. k8conant Apr 2016 #13

I was just curious why you dismissed him without saying why. eShirl Apr 2016 #14

No, I liked Carter.. I just didn't think you guys would think he was good enough. DCBob Apr 2016 #18

He was the most liberal President in my memory. Liberal = good. eShirl Apr 2016 #19

Yes, I agree with that. DCBob Apr 2016 #20

The handbasket is a bit further along to Hell nowadays. n/t eShirl Apr 2016 #22

The situation under Carter was very different than today Armstead Apr 2016 #74

Carter actually governed as a conservative Dem and that is why Kennedy primaried him. blm Apr 2016 #101

Do you remember Ted Kennedy? oberliner Apr 2016 #104

Because he was a huge deregulator? (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #107

+1000, DCBob. Hortensis Apr 2016 #17

None of Their Candidates Ever Won a Damn Thing in a General Election Stallion Apr 2016 #21

No the party became corporatist with the rise of the Clintons. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #23

You Might Want to Look into the Connection Between LBJ & Brown & Root-and Truman & Pendergast Machin Stallion Apr 2016 #27

I am well aware of those accusations. The republicans always made them an issue. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #29

DLC forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #76

The unions didn't fundraise for the DLC gang Mnpaul Apr 2016 #85

I somewhat agree with your point. The union membership got seduced by racism. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #97

Obama, until we realized we were sold a bill of goods again. But hey spin whatever tale you like. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #24

Carter was pretty good even though I voted for Kennedy in the primary. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #26

"Happy" is a relative term and there have been only 2 Dem Presidents since 1980 Armstead Apr 2016 #28

How was Carter to the left of Clinton?! Looking at his record he should be thrown in the same dust uponit7771 Apr 2016 #43

I'm being a little bit charitable Armstead Apr 2016 #55

I was and am very pleased with President Obama. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #30

At the time, it was JFK. bvar22 Apr 2016 #31

I love Obama and will miss him terribly. pandora nm Apr 2016 #32

Carter. snot Apr 2016 #33

Carter floppyboo Apr 2016 #66

I would recommend Bernie Sanders except for 3 reasons rock Apr 2016 #35

Why dismiss Carter? progressoid Apr 2016 #37

Cause looking at the facts Sandernistas would call him a corporatist to the right of HRC... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #41

Which facts would that be? progressoid Apr 2016 #81

President Bartlet. Spazito Apr 2016 #40

I know he's popular around here, but frankly, I'm an Underwood man. Bucky Apr 2016 #70

LOL, nope, Bartlet all the way... Spazito Apr 2016 #71

McGovern. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #42

FDR CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #46

Remember, as well, that there is no such thing as a "just" war. OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #96

Carter as a human being, FDR as a President n/t Nevada Blue Apr 2016 #47

FDR is to the right of Trump on a number of issues, the purist would hate him too... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #49

Probably William Henry Harrison, the one that died a month after inauguration Tarc Apr 2016 #50

James Garfield seems to have been progressive on racial issues Retrograde Apr 2016 #110

Barack Obama. raging moderate Apr 2016 #52

doesn't matter. You would turn it into a slam anyhow. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #57

I worked like a dog for Obama. peace13 Apr 2016 #58

Obama did some great things. He wasn't perfect but he looks like a saint next to Hillary. think Apr 2016 #64

Agree! peace13 Apr 2016 #67

I liked candidate Obama more than president Obama whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #60

^^this^^ to the nth n/t Nevada Blue Apr 2016 #105

Carter. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #62

I've seen comments that WhiteTara Apr 2016 #68

Obama Bucky Apr 2016 #69

Unlike the Hillary groupthink, I can still go back to John F. Kennedy, no matter what Bernie said highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #77

Thank you all for some very thoughtful responses. DCBob Apr 2016 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #82

I've been mostly happy with Obama democrattotheend Apr 2016 #83

He aint no Democrat. NT seabeyond Apr 2016 #84

Barack Obama phleshdef Apr 2016 #87

Manbearpig? nt Corporate666 Apr 2016 #90

Obama LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #94

It is Obama, and Hillary Clinton is not Obama, Bill Clinton sold us out on everything. TumbleAndJumble Apr 2016 #95

Obama. Am I angry ? Hell yes, I am furious. Autumn Apr 2016 #98

There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #99

Probably Carter PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #100

I think Fidel Castro was the president that made him happiest RandySF Apr 2016 #102

FDR but only because they don't actually know much about his administration (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #106

For me none of them. LBJ was most notable for the civil rights laws Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #108

I have voted for every Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter. n/t Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #109

So when did perpetual war, the sodomy of the 99% by corporations, the sodomy of the earth by VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #111