2016 Postmortem

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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63. That's because Bernie's ability to excite and engage people who haven't been so in years flies in

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:30 PM

Apr 2016

the face of the Party's and media's meme: Democrats lose because they don't show up.

In order to prepetuate this meme, they have to ignore the fact that people with Democratic values are numerous and had been dormant until Bernie came around.

The most unliked candidate in history towing the establishment line doesn't inspire people to turnout.

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Demoralized: What will happen to the Democrats if Clinton is the nominee. [View all] Skwmom Apr 2016 OP

How demoralized would Democrats be if the will of the people was overturned at the convention? tritsofme Apr 2016 #1

That's the problem. It was not fair and sqaure. Skwmom Apr 2016 #6

Sure was. The people voted, and your guy lost. tritsofme Apr 2016 #7

not everyone got to vote restorefreedom Apr 2016 #26

Was Kerry's primary victory illegitimate? How about Gore? tritsofme Apr 2016 #36

Hahahahahahahaha ... salinsky Apr 2016 #55

He's only in it because of silly caucuses. Zynx Apr 2016 #61

If you live in a state with a closed primary Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #95

He hasn't lost LaurenG Apr 2016 #27

Sorry to be the bearer of this news. But yes, this is no longer a competitive race where Sanders tritsofme Apr 2016 #34

Uh huh LaurenG Apr 2016 #39

You can do as you please. I was just sharing the facts of how this race stands. tritsofme Apr 2016 #44

Sharing what you perceive how this will end but LaurenG Apr 2016 #47

Not enough time left on the clock. It's over because of math. tritsofme Apr 2016 #49

Exactly tonyt53 Apr 2016 #101

Get outside your bubble and see what the Bernie supporters are truedelphi Apr 2016 #104

Bernie is the only chance Ds have in the general election. Hillary will crash and burn peacebird Apr 2016 #105

Bernie has lost Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #96

Where have you been? bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #71

Several of my friends are living in other countries now Baobab Apr 2016 #92

In what way? George II Apr 2016 #41

yeah yeah Bernie has been saying lots have been 'unfair' lately. Get out of the kitchen if riversedge Apr 2016 #66

it's happened before, and we got thru it. are americans delicate flowers now? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #9

1968 didn't turn out so well. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #12

In 1968 a Kennedy was murdered prior to the convention Trenzalore Apr 2016 #14

In June. We're still in April. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #23

Almost 20 million people have already voted, 2.5M more for Clinton than Sanders. That's.... George II Apr 2016 #43

It is the sore-loser Berners who are the delicates flowers, that can't accept defeat. tritsofme Apr 2016 #21

hey, guess what? I've been saying for 3 months that the goal was to make sure she didn't get enough Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #29

Then it sounds like your expectations are much more realistic than many of your colleagues. tritsofme Apr 2016 #42

A platform is just words on a piece of paper when you cannot trust the nominee. Skwmom Apr 2016 #81

That's why it's gotta be a movement, 2018 we vote out those who do not support the platform Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #85

it does not work that way. Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #98

You don't think young people should be listened to MORE when trade deals ARE FOREVER? Baobab Apr 2016 #56

Strange post...are you seriously suggesting we should overturn the will of the majority tritsofme Apr 2016 #64

It's amazing Bernie voters don't see they're a smaller group than Hillary voters. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #2

It's like they live in an alternate reality. tritsofme Apr 2016 #4

Right. What were they thinking? rickford66 Apr 2016 #37

No, those aren't THEIR issues. Most Bernie Hortensis Apr 2016 #108

ridiculous nt grasswire Apr 2016 #8

It's not ridiculous, it's a fact. Beacool Apr 2016 #19

this election will not be won by registered Democrats alone. grasswire Apr 2016 #30

Of course Independents will be needed in the GE, but this is the Democratic primary Beacool Apr 2016 #45

And Hillary won't be winning those Independents in the GE. strategery blunder Apr 2016 #62

That remains to be seen. Beacool Apr 2016 #75

Yet look how they've made her run for her political life. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #11

Huh? This race is a titanic blowout compared to 2008. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #18

Oh, stop. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #50

Include Indies and we're greater in number. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #16

There's no evidence of that. There is evidence of Hillary having millions more votes. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #20

Are you saying Hillary has the Indy vote? pinebox Apr 2016 #48

I'm saying her support, in total, is greater. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #54

Among independents Hillary has little support pinebox Apr 2016 #82

Among Democrats Bernie has little support. What's your point? CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #83

About twice the number of voters pinebox Apr 2016 #88

You do realize roughly 40% of indies are basically Republicans, right? Not Bernie people. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #91

it will either cease to exist, or we will take it back Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #3

Agreed. The geenie has been loosed upon the world. yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #5

They'll rejoice freesqueeze Apr 2016 #10

Yes going through another stolen election is demoralizing felix_numinous Apr 2016 #13

Stolen? What? Do you have a link for this? Dem2 Apr 2016 #22

Nothing, the party will continue. Beacool Apr 2016 #15

There are many differences between 2008 Clinton supporters with 2016 Sander supporters. JumpinJehosaphat Apr 2016 #58

The only one demoralizing Democrats is you Dem2 Apr 2016 #17

GOP (D) hates real Democrats. Nt HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #24

I can post random letters too Dem2 Apr 2016 #25

The party is split between 1960s Republicans calling themselves "Democrats" Triana Apr 2016 #28

Frankly, we need a new Party and new coalitions. Wish we had a different system, with highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #31

or split. grasswire Apr 2016 #32

Good sportsmanship creon Apr 2016 #33

I'm excited! grossproffit Apr 2016 #35

If she is the nominee, I think that sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #38

If I do end up voting for her Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #40

Then why vote for her? DebbieCDC Apr 2016 #107

To avoid being kicked off DU? Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #110

begin with march /protest Philly convention; also HRC may have legal problems or face impeachment metamorphosis Apr 2016 #46

I'm not that demoralized DetroitSocialist83 Apr 2016 #51

But getting moreso at an alarming rate. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #65

Then I guess you will have a decision to make RandySF Apr 2016 #52

She's already on double secret probation with about half the party tularetom Apr 2016 #53

A majority of the average voter has made their voices heard. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #57

We would support our nominee and keep beachbum bob Apr 2016 #59

Depends Buzz cook Apr 2016 #60

That's because Bernie's ability to excite and engage people who haven't been so in years flies in WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #63

I'm not looking forward to a Kissinger world outlook, nor corp advantage is masked with "free trade" EndElectoral Apr 2016 #67

average voters are voting for Hillary Clinton - amazing the opposition can't accept that. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #68

I think they accept it, but it's demoralizing to see this is the way the Dem Party wants to go. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #69

That's an opinion of purists, not a fact. Hillary is not a Republican by any stretch. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #70

In foreign and fiscal policy she's a Republican. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #74

Not true Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #99

+ 1 JoePhilly Apr 2016 #86

Fractured. It will be the Political Continental Divide. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #72

Guaranteed: If Clinton loses, the Left will be blamed. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #73

Those who didnt vote for her will be blamed Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #76

Why not Hillary for not convincing enough voters to vote for her? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #80

Is not and NEVER has been about Hillary...That is the part some of you have been missing Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #84

Let me fix this for you Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #77

well,, so much for unity!!!! oldandhappy Apr 2016 #78

They win Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #79

Amazing how Bernie supporters do not understand average voters hack89 Apr 2016 #87

I will be through the roof happy as will many people I know. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #89

I will be thrilled Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #100

Emigration elsewhere Baobab Apr 2016 #90

The Democratic party is already shrinking! LongTomH Apr 2016 #93

I'm fine with them registering as Indies as long as the Ds stopbush Apr 2016 #109

Since Bernie lost Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #94

They will have a love fest and say the whole day "Madam President" When that starts to wear off insta8er Apr 2016 #97

Not at all Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #103

Amazing how many people are inside the bubble, judging by Hillary's staggering lead stopbush Apr 2016 #106

Clinton voters are average voters too. Why do you dismiss them as corporate or others? seabeyond Apr 2016 #111

Lucky for me I don't consider Hill a Democrat. So I can still like traditional Democrats. senz Apr 2016 #112