2016 Postmortem

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts) Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:49 PM Apr 2016

For one brief shining moment, I thought the Dem party had really moved left [View all]

with Bernie Sanders.

Oh well.

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For one brief shining moment, I thought the Dem party had really moved left [View all] Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 OP

We are a party of moderates--Let the Republicans be the fringe party Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #1

Nonsense words. morningfog Apr 2016 #2

If more proof was ever needed, this would be it. TM99 Apr 2016 #8

And people like yourself keep facilitating a further push to the right. Broward Apr 2016 #17

Hope you aren't too attached to your SS benefits dragonfly301 Apr 2016 #27

Thus speaketh Rush Limbaugh. leftofcool Apr 2016 #114

No. Unless you mean he would be cheering on the cuts... dragonfly301 Apr 2016 #115

Corporate Center Right is not moderate -- unless one is a conservative Republican Armstead Apr 2016 #51

I heard that too, Rush Limbaugh says the same thing. B Calm Apr 2016 #65

Sounds to me like you are the real Republicans KPN Apr 2016 #77

And this is why we fail Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #129

If the Democratic Party is a party of moderates, there's a vacuum on the left Thirties Child Apr 2016 #136

'Moderate' means you're only "half-way" batshit rightwing crazy? John Poet Apr 2016 #142

Some people seem to be satisfied with just Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #143

Money talks -- & can buy anything pacalo Apr 2016 #3

but money can buy cake which is almost the same thing Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #95

Cake works for me... pacalo Apr 2016 #119

It has moved left gollygee Apr 2016 #4

This is the correct answer. woolldog Apr 2016 #20

this is true-- and the young generation gives me a lot of hope Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #29

I hope you're right! I want to think that this is a real Svafa Apr 2016 #105

Go Bernie liberal from boston Apr 2016 #138

No, the voters have, but the party establishment has not. 2banon May 2016 #152

Nope. 99Forever Apr 2016 #5

Organize at your state and county level votesparks Apr 2016 #14

Been there, done that. 99Forever Apr 2016 #25

"ALL politics is more corrupt than ever" BillZBubb Apr 2016 #126

I spent a lifetime watching it slide into the slime pit. 99Forever Apr 2016 #144

maybe... but I live in a very red area. I just don't see how a Dem/liberal can ever get elected here Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #30

I think we're more like a party that is fractured...... seekthetruth Apr 2016 #6

I do have a lot of hope for the younger generation and I hope they stay engaged Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #31

The younger generation is coming up quickly COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #50

Really? Bayard Apr 2016 #73

Perhaps the same way we all did??? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #94

So you moved back home nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #102

Do you really believe that most people in their 20's are doing that? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #109

A larger percentage than they used to nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #118

It may be we have reached the point where too many people are COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #130

It is the whole shebang including making far less nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #132

Statistics demonstrating that today's graduates are making COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #139

That strikes me as naive. KPN Apr 2016 #80

I had no idea the younger generation supported more wars in the middle east, fracking, LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #98

I don't think they think much about the Middle East and/or cluster bombs. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #111

You think wrong. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #148

I didn't intend to include military in my statement. I was referring to young civilians. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #149

There is still hope TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #7

I'm with you on that one. KPN Apr 2016 #81

Yeah, I'm still trying to digest the fact that... tom-servo Apr 2016 #9

Yep! Welcome to DU by the way! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #32

Thanks for the welcome, and... tom-servo May 2016 #150

Psst. The Democrats are not a liberal party anymore.[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #110

Nice first post! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #128

The Klintoon's have thier hooks so deep into the DNC/DLC that it will take years to purge them. Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #10

No, they are aging out quickly. Barack_America Apr 2016 #15

Don't put all of us Boomers in that category please Armstead Apr 2016 #54

Not so fast on the Clintons aging out quickly BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #67

Chelsea is ripe for Congress/Senate and then she'll be headed for POTUS 2banon May 2016 #154

Yeah, we need another Mezvinsky in the House. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #159

He almost made Bill look like an honest man BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #160

Really? The "Klintoons"? That's what poster on Free Republic call the Clintons. auntpurl Apr 2016 #40

You never learn, Charlie Brown Fumesucker Apr 2016 #11

haha, good analogy Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #33

Our fellow dems have spoken. And they have no... actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #12

exactly-- this is what really gets me. Pro-war Democrats really make me Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #35

You might need to see a doctor about that COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #52

We've been working on the cure noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #61

One day... very soon now... just wait... it's coming... any day now... COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #62

Foolish Partisan noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #71

I really appreciate your concern. What's happening in the country is more COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #96

Sleep walling though history nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #120

All temporary without any lasting effects. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #125

Hmm I am sure glad the 1740s generation gave up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #131

I think you're being overly dramatic. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #133

Best case he is in the 1740s for the elite that is nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #134

Time will tell. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #135

And the Sun came up and the village was saved. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #113

LOL. I should probably just avoid politics. Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #90

EXCELLENT. I think we both probably should. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #92

most of them supported bush on everything he was doing Robbins Apr 2016 #48

See this is where you get it wrong jzodda Apr 2016 #56

About 40-45 percent there votesparks Apr 2016 #13

ah that song-- so many memories! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #36

Yeah, we saw how that story turned out. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #93

If I may be blunt, every presidential election, 4 years worth of young, liberal... Barack_America Apr 2016 #16

Good analysis. It's is sad that such a flawed human being, though, might become JimDandy Apr 2016 #24

The problem with your analysis auntpurl Apr 2016 #38

At 64 I have learned what a long-term disaster "Third Way" policies are Armstead Apr 2016 #55

I thought both Clinton and Obama were excellent presidents auntpurl Apr 2016 #59

Depends on what level you're talking about Armstead Apr 2016 #66

Well, you thought wrong then! KPN Apr 2016 #82

Yes, the trend is good Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #39

That's the problem BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #68

The party hasn't. The public has. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #18

It has. Bernie has moved the party left. Onlooker Apr 2016 #19

And it will stay there for at least a week, maybe even two. hatrack Apr 2016 #21

True! I am encouraged. I never expected Bernie to do this well. mvd Apr 2016 #23

The country has moved left. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #22

The party reflects the people. Or it will, eventually, if it wants to compete. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #26

Yup, and it will not be pleasant for the old cranks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #121

Change is hard. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #123

Yep...not hard for ALL the old cranks though. Many are on board, ready to rock and roll! nt haikugal May 2016 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #28

what does less white have to do with being less liberal? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #44

Bernie couldn't deliver???? KPN Apr 2016 #83

Thanks for that, I never think of Seattle for some reason nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #122

and then you go to GDP and see all the Conservative posts supporting Hillary B Calm Apr 2016 #34

The Dem party is now where republicans used to be. vintx Apr 2016 #37

Spot on! KPN Apr 2016 #84

hmm, interesting thought Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #89

Obama taught us how hollow that is...another myth used to control us. haikugal May 2016 #155

We've become the party of Bob Dole LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #99

Only a temporary move left to pick up votes. Vinca Apr 2016 #41

if Hillary moved left in this campaign, I'm a bit afraid of what her moving back right means Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #43

What do you think? One step forward, two steps back. Vinca Apr 2016 #45

Last time I felt this "meh" about a presidential election, eShirl Apr 2016 #46

The country has moved left. The Dem Party has moved their language left while Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #47

more Robbins Apr 2016 #49

Regrettably I agree with you Armstead Apr 2016 #58

Just Donated $50 noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #53

We are a country with a two party system. Sanders' supporters discount the millions that vote Trust Buster Apr 2016 #57

Pot, meet kettle. KPN Apr 2016 #86

Crazy Republicans and New Republicans LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #100

It's center-left vs far left. Some people call anything short of the extreme left "the right". CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #60

Haha. KPN Apr 2016 #87

We can't say silent on issues My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #63

You are correct...I tried to stir up interest in the Cable Merger but crickets Armstead Apr 2016 #70

You can't build a national movement workinclasszero Apr 2016 #64

Clinton did an excellent job at artificially separating the tent into different sections Armstead Apr 2016 #69

Yes, we've thoroughly sliced and diced the demographics into who supports whom My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #72

You..the "revolutionaries" were the ones throwing bombs into the tent workinclasszero Apr 2016 #74

I'm a moderate liberal -- but in this climate that makes me "far left" Armstead Apr 2016 #76

For that matter they told actual POC that they do not care about either racism or POC nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #124

They don't want to understand because doing so forjusticethunders May 2016 #158

Bernie wasn't the one attacking his opponent's supporters for their race and gender jfern Apr 2016 #127

Bernie made me a male under 30 & turned my sister white Kittycat Apr 2016 #140

I am absolutely not moving to the right with the Democratic Party. djean111 Apr 2016 #75

100% agree LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #101

It has moved left demwing Apr 2016 #78

The Party is not the same as the voters. djean111 Apr 2016 #106

Fair enough demwing Apr 2016 #107

Yes, but the voters don't really get to tell the Party what to do, and the union leaders djean111 Apr 2016 #108

Do not underestimate the power of propaganda. Maedhros Apr 2016 #112

The voters are moving left and the party leadership is moving right Mnpaul Apr 2016 #116

So who's appointed next? Bayard Apr 2016 #79

War is our only job program for our young. It's bread and circuses for the USA...boy, we're haikugal May 2016 #156

Oh, it is slowly moving left. procon Apr 2016 #85

Ppsshaw!!! It has moved left! KPN Apr 2016 #88

K & R for visibility of this N/T w0nderer Apr 2016 #91

It has moved left, just not as far as Sanders. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2016 #97

LMAO. Yes, the Democratic President that described his own LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #103

I think we would have if the media hadn't deemed Sanders a fringe candidate for the fir 6 months intheflow Apr 2016 #104

Democrats and people in general have moved left. Party and politicians and those who want to Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #117

The Dem party is too scared to win. basselope Apr 2016 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #141

The Left in the Democratic Party found a voice CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #145

How many Sanders delegates will be helping to write the platform? Orsino Apr 2016 #146

this is true-- I don't discount the enormous influence Bernie has had and I hope continues to have Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #147

Assuming that the Anybody-but-Trump Republicans don't take over the Democratic Party w4rma May 2016 #151

Her status a front runner is complete AstroTurf... haikugal May 2016 #157