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2016 Postmortem

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snowy owl

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Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:48 AM Apr 2016

Clinton appeals to more elite in democratic party - it's class hierarchy [View all]

Last edited Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:55 AM - Edit history (3)

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/opinion/campaign-stops/how-the-other-fifth-lives.html
A Democrat whose wallet tells him he is a Republican is unlikely to be a strong ally of less well-off Democrats in pressing for tax hikes on the rich, increased spending on the safety net or a much higher minimum wage.

Bernie Sanders has tried to capitalize on this built-in tension within the Democratic primary electorate, but Hillary Clinton has so far been able to skate over intraparty conflicts. In the New York primary, for example, she did better among voters making $100,000 or more than among the less affluent, while simultaneously carrying African-Americans and moderate Democrats of all races by decisive margins.


The trends at the top and the bottom are undermining cohesive politics, but more important they are undermining social interconnection as they fracture the United States more and more into a class and race hierarchy.


As more and more of us move into desperate situations financially and as the middle class continues to dwindle, we will be the worse for choosing the status quo. She is one of the elite. That's what you bought.

I've noticed few people actually go to original articles. This isn't talking about the 1% - but about the top 20%.

In 2012, of people with incomes less than $10K, 46% voted. In 2014, 24% - almost half.
In 2012, of people with incomes $10K to $15K, 48%. In 2014, 31%.
In 2012, of people with incomes $40K to $49K, 60%. In 2014, 40%.

Bernie is bringing back our democracy - he's getting people to vote again.

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For me, it's not only economics, not by a long shot. merrily Apr 2016 #1
There, there ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #2
Bernie's revolution is ongoing. The dissolution of our democracy is relevant. snowy owl Apr 2016 #3
Losers don't get to make demands. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #5
May be your opinion but doesn't make it mine or anybody elses. snowy owl Apr 2016 #7
That doesn't mean he gets to "make demands". NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #9
We do...his supporters. We hold the votes she needs, not Sanders JimDandy Apr 2016 #10
Once again, I'm reminded I'm part of the 1%. RandySF Apr 2016 #4
Well, all of us HRCers ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #6
Another intellectual response. So typical. You didn't read it, did you? snowy owl Apr 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #11
Well, this is about who votes. Among those voting, she has done well. snowy owl Apr 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #13
"working class democrats" - yes. Closed priomaries. Independents - open primaries, Bernie. snowy owl Apr 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #15
This is a change election. Status quo candidates are being challenged on both sides. snowy owl Apr 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #23
Um, Clinton also won a BUNCH of open primary states. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #16
But several with close results. Is it significant to win by a few points? Not denying she won but... snowy owl Apr 2016 #18
But she still won them. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #19
If by "several" you mean 2 out of 10, yes. onenote Apr 2016 #21
There have been 13 fully open primaries. Clinton won 10. onenote Apr 2016 #20
Yep it's defensiveness loyalsister Apr 2016 #22
Cool article, except for the fact its Hillary winning among low income voters. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #24
I love Bernie but Hillary's support comes from women, African Americans and Hispanics, not exactly pampango Apr 2016 #25
Sanders does not do well with people over 45.... beachbum bob Apr 2016 #26
Or perhaps you're simply unable to see the vision...burned out as they say. snowy owl Apr 2016 #29
Premise of article is the top 20% care less about the bottom than they used to and snowy owl Apr 2016 #27
Yes, it's class heierarchy . . . i.e. it's Republican pdsimdars Apr 2016 #28
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