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2016 Postmortem

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Zorra

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1. A most excellent essay.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016
“Our principles do not change. Justice is always justice; freedom is always freedom. Great principles are constant. And so what they call the ‘old way’ is nothing more than principles. And they say you can’t go back to the old ways -- which means you can’t go back to justice, you can’t go back to equality, you can’t go back to what is right and what is wrong. Principles are how you exist above and beyond the emotions that you feel, to control and have discipline of one’s self. Self-discipline, not people making you behave, but the discipline where you don’t need police. That is how our people lived. There were no police. There were no jails. There were basic laws -- you don’t lie and steal. Tell the truth. Be strong. Look out for your brother. Look out for the ones just underneath you. Look out for the elders. Use your strength on behalf of the nation, on behalf of the people. Conduct yourself in a proper manner.”
-- Oren Lyons; Faith Keeper; Onondaga Nation


Beautiful, thank you; I hope someday soon our descendants will create for themselves, in large majority, a diverse national tribe that will universally believe in, and practice, the principles described by Faith Keeper Oren.
Principles [View all] H2O Man Apr 2016 OP
A most excellent essay. Zorra Apr 2016 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2016 #3
The honor is all mine, H2O Man. Zorra May 2016 #41
Right! H2O Man May 2016 #44
This is what drives our passion. Integrity, compassion, justice, generosity, wisdom snowy owl Apr 2016 #19
Exactly! H2O Man May 2016 #40
Sometimes, people with principles can no longer yield. mmonk Apr 2016 #2
Right. H2O Man Apr 2016 #4
I love what Oren's quote speaks to me. Self-policing. I believe strongly in this concept Gregorian Apr 2016 #5
Oren is an H2O Man Apr 2016 #9
I would very much like to read your blog. Gregorian Apr 2016 #13
Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2016 #15
Wonderful reading Kittycat Apr 2016 #22
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2016 #25
Thank you for this. Another great essay. PotatoChip Apr 2016 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2016 #10
Perfect Rebkeh Apr 2016 #7
Thanks, Rebkeh! H2O Man Apr 2016 #11
Thank you, Mr. H2O Man. longship Apr 2016 #8
Thanks, longship! H2O Man Apr 2016 #12
Thank you for writing it. Your words are like medicine to our soul. nt kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #14
Thank you very much. H2O Man Apr 2016 #16
k & r surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #17
Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2016 #26
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #18
Thanks, Uncle Joe! H2O Man Apr 2016 #27
That's how it is for me. Wilms Apr 2016 #20
Thank you. H2O Man Apr 2016 #28
Good to see a thoughtful post on here -- and I agree Armstead Apr 2016 #21
Thanks! H2O Man Apr 2016 #29
Thank you, H20Man Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #23
Thanks! H2O Man Apr 2016 #30
WEll Said, H2O Man! 2banon Apr 2016 #24
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2016 #31
As always, interesting and to the heart.. AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #32
Thanks! H2O Man May 2016 #36
Thank you for posting. +10 840high May 2016 #33
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #37
When you arrive at your destination. Weep for the country you leave behind. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #34
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #38
Principles? How quaint. Scuba May 2016 #35
Thanks, Scuba. H2O Man May 2016 #39
Kick for perfection. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #42
Thank you very much! H2O Man May 2016 #43
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