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PDittie

(8,322 posts)
63. Good advice from others already
Mon May 2, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

-- Vote anyway for down ballot races; Congress; statehouse, county courthouse, municipal posts, perhaps constitutional referenda (especially in CA where those are so powerful and binding as to law). Those offices in many ways are more directly related to you and your life than the White House.

-- As your presidential vote has no affect on whom California's Electoral College representatives will elect the president (just as mine in Texas will be equally meaningless) your conscience is clean to vote your progressive principles. There are in fact only seven states that are swingy at the moment.

I'm not telling you who to vote for...

... But a vote for presidential write-in candidate in CA's general election appears to be invalid, according to my understanding of the law from here and here (scroll all the way to the bottom at both links, and get some advice from a CA election law attorney if you have other questions). So don't write in Bernie's name in November; it won't count. You can skip the top race by leaving it blank (aka undervoting), but my personal POV is that is not a good way to send a message.

-- Stick around! You've got a hell of a Senate race going out there, and there will be others, like John McCain's close contest in AZ to monitor or help with in some way (like phonebanking or contributions or such).

-- Simply ignore the blame shaming, "Trump thanks you", "B-B-B-But SCOTUS" crap that will fly around here for the next six months (and forever after if Clinton snatches defeat from the jaws of victory). If Clinton loses, it won't be because you didn't vote for her in California or because I didn't in Texas.

In fact, with 247 EC votes already in the (virtual) can, if she loses it's all on HER. But that's a blame game for another day...

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Don't take this place that seriously... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #1
yes winetourdriver May 2016 #6
Stick around (n/t) PJMcK May 2016 #59
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We'll be voting for Hillary in California and the GE. We've never been more energized! grossproffit May 2016 #2
That overwhelming energy is absolutely contagious; how will we ever manage to contain it? Attorney in Texas May 2016 #27
Just a few more buckets of cold water will douse it. Hortensis May 2016 #111
rolf Jennylynn May 2016 #152
Really? Where? I've been all over CA campaigning for Bernie and I have yet to see any Hillary Live and Learn May 2016 #34
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What post? You are confused. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #38
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The OP which wasn't started by me? You are still confused. Live and Learn May 2016 #49
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What is obtuse and petulant? Your confusion? Live and Learn May 2016 #52
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And yet you continue flouncing. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #56
Unenthusiastic voters griffi94 May 2016 #80
Her lead is only because she has an already established name and uninformed voters. Live and Learn May 2016 #81
Bernies had 20+ years griffi94 May 2016 #82
Bernie never intended to run. He was busy working for his state unlike Hillary who's been Live and Learn May 2016 #83
Bernie maybe should have planned better griffi94 May 2016 #85
Apparently, we all should have forseen the theft of the political process by third way types. Live and Learn May 2016 #86
The Democrats are already aware and voting for Hillary griffi94 May 2016 #87
They are becoming aware and are fed up with it. Bernie is proof of that. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #91
Bernie is getting blownout. Seriously blownout griffi94 May 2016 #93
What a sick and ignorant thing to say. Keep your head in the sand if you prefer Live and Learn May 2016 #95
Its sick and ignorant to notice that Hillary has the most votes? griffi94 May 2016 #98
Buried? Yes, sick and ignorant. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #123
Its a common phrase used to denote a blowout griffi94 May 2016 #124
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I didn't use any racist term griffi94 May 2016 #129
Glad to see you admit is was ignorant then. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #130
I edited it for you. griffi94 May 2016 #125
Blownout is not a word. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #128
Close enough lol griffi94 May 2016 #131
Not really. Ignorance is not really bliss either. And spam is unhealthy. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #134
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300 delegates griffi94 May 2016 #150
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And Hillary griffi94 May 2016 #141
And Dems get deeper into the hole in Congress eridani May 2016 #142
Did you know griffi94 May 2016 #143
Sanders will stay in as long as Clinton did in 2008 eridani May 2016 #144
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Good advice from others already PDittie May 2016 #63
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