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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Who are "independents" really? Unbiased, critical thinkers? [View all]Garrett78
(10,721 posts)38. I don't have much issue with any of what you just wrote.
And I'm not spending any time trying to convince people who to vote for.
Yes, some people (regardless of political affiliation) vote the way they vote purely because of how a loved one votes or because of a label or some other mindless reason. Again, that's true across the spectrum.
Call it ironic, but "thinking for themselves" seems to be a phrase about which there should be more critical thought. Clearly everyone is influenced by friends, family, strangers, events, environment, history, media, etc.
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I'm not sure where you get the idea that I want Democrats to lose every single election.
Garrett78
May 2016
#10
Well you are not going to get any independent votes if Democrats push crap like we see in the OP
Bjorn Against
May 2016
#14
I put the term in quotes because clearly not all are "independent" in any true sense.
Garrett78
May 2016
#21
I agree. But that could change based on the bizarre nature of this years election. nm
floriduck
May 2016
#82
Most "Independents" I've met are Libertarians. Most of them are racist and callous.
Hoyt
May 2016
#4
I am registered as "unaffiliated", or independent of any party. Life member of int'l union,....
dmosh42
May 2016
#83
Then there are those of us who think the Democrats really suck, and the Republicans...
immoderate
May 2016
#9
Fair wages, fair trade, renewable energy, common-sense drug laws, non-interventionism.
frylock
May 2016
#22
"Or because they are 'liberal' on some issues and 'conservative' on others."
CompanyFirstSergeant
May 2016
#27
Or...they are just simply able to think for themselves without having to be told how to think. n/t
michaz
May 2016
#28
Obviously any one that chooses to can be an independent. It is their choice. But
michaz
May 2016
#46
Registrared Green for over twenty years but changed it to (D) for Bernie in California
nolabels
May 2016
#48
Wasn't the point of the OP that independents aren't actually a bloc in any real sense?
nemo137
May 2016
#55
I don't think you can generalize that way. People are independent for all kinds of reasons.
yellowcanine
May 2016
#52
I've done the exact opposite of "generalize" in both the OP and throughout this thread.
Garrett78
May 2016
#60
I am unenrolled but never call myself an independent. I do have a bias for Dems as that is the only
seaglass
May 2016
#59
No they are not a voting bloc. Trying to create a political party around independents would be
seaglass
May 2016
#62
"because they think it gives the impression that they are unbiased, critical thinkers"
dana_b
May 2016
#64
Do you really not think that's true for *some* who self-identify as "independent?"
Garrett78
May 2016
#65
By pointing out that there are a variety of reasons why people self-identify as "independent?"
Garrett78
May 2016
#74
They are a group of voters the majority of whom will not vote for Clinton...
leeroysphitz
May 2016
#75
Are party loyalists unbiased? Are they critical thinkers when they vote for a label?
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2016
#78
Does it matter? They represent 39% of the voting public, and Socialism appeals to them.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2016
#86
Enough do that it's vitally important to the DNC and the Clinton campaign to keep them out. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2016
#88