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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Mustn't we reevaluate our party since it is is going through a right wing realignment? [View all]senz
(11,945 posts)78. We have anti-business leftists who oppose capitalism.
Bernie is not anti-business and does not oppose capitalism.
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Mustn't we reevaluate our party since it is is going through a right wing realignment? [View all]
Dragonfli
May 2016
OP
Hillary and the DNC are not right wing. They are more moderate than you like, that's all.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#1
Aiding and abetting the ongoing power grab of Wall St and Corporate Monopolists is not moderate
Armstead
May 2016
#3
If allowing the people to decide is a CHANGE that reduces profits it may beforbidden by trade policy
Baobab
May 2016
#44
And bumper-stickers filled with the flavor-of-the-day pejoratives are not arguments.
LanternWaste
May 2016
#41
So ok Clinton's didn't start it. When should we grab the platform of the *real* Dem party?
whatthehey
May 2016
#156
The Right wing is pro War ,pro Wall Street, against Single Payer , just like Hillary.
bahrbearian
May 2016
#8
Bernie voted to remove Saddam, build F-35s, deregulate derivatives. He's a conservative!!
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#12
Lol and Hillary is a Progressive who like to get things done" Like War, Coups, and Donations
bahrbearian
May 2016
#16
but regime change does not, nor does it always, come through war. Saddam was a
Exilednight
May 2016
#28
A conservative Democratic Socialist? Twisting political categories to avoid the painful truth about
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#26
If there is no, as you put it, serious left, the center is not where you think it is.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#58
If left,right, and center mean different things in different places, they are meaningless words.
arendt
May 2016
#63
I didn't say the center's 'ok', just that it's the center. Center is a measurement, not a philosophy
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#66
Liberal is immediately to the left of center. Conservative immediately to the right
AgingAmerican
May 2016
#106
There are 3 centres. The center between the Republicans and the Democrats. And then the two
Seeinghope
May 2016
#116
They are Right Wing by definition, their goals and their actions, their only "moderation" lies in
Dragonfli
May 2016
#40
That's fine. It doesn't change that Hillary is to the left of TODAY'S center.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#49
I disagree, besides, you are CHANGING DEFINITION AGAIN did you not read the polls that refute even
Dragonfli
May 2016
#52
Since there is no set philosophy from the "center party", of course I meant the center of our two.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#56
So you can't define the center, and yet it can never shift? Yeah, that's a solid argument.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#75
They appear to have constructed their own reality, it really is quite fascinating in a detached way
Dragonfli
May 2016
#143
"And political science paradigms are not dependent on relative things." Thank you for stating that.
Dragonfli
May 2016
#120
This genie is out of the bottle... this party will change forever when Sanders is denied
yourpaljoey
May 2016
#2
The timid and Republican lite Democrats simply create a bigger monster Republican Party all the time
highprincipleswork
May 2016
#14
That's right. Not all at once, but it is already underway. And now that Sanders has
silvershadow
May 2016
#57
Any compliment from you I consider high praise as your posts have always been so well thought out
Dragonfli
May 2016
#42
Liberal and progressive ideals are much, much more important than the Party. [n/t]
Maedhros
May 2016
#24
Just because Bernie gets support from primarily white voters in conservative areas ...
Onlooker
May 2016
#25
The Democratic Party started to leave me when I was told it was a big tent that included Rick
djean111
May 2016
#27
I came to the conclusion that the democratic party is not my party so I left it.
Autumn
May 2016
#32
Jamie Dimon whipping votes on the Senate floor at Obama's behest was the final straw.
Autumn
May 2016
#111
I think it is going through a "progressive vs. elitist" realignment even more than a "right vs. left
Attorney in Texas
May 2016
#60
Better idea: The losers could start their own party. The majority wins in this Country.
Lil Missy
May 2016
#62
Take heart. They may take the radical step of redesigning the donut logo and....
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2016
#65
I've decided I will no longer aid and abet the rightward drift of the party by voting for DINOs.
Arugula Latte
May 2016
#68
Seems like you should have done some introspection about the 'revolution' -BEFORE the 'revolution'.
randome
May 2016
#88
I have to admit that I stopped registering Democrat after Bill Clinton's first term.
bjo59
May 2016
#92
I'm sure you were quite pleased with my FDR quote in response to a sock that claims that Hillary
Dragonfli
May 2016
#110
Good post we should have had this conversation after the conservative Clinton administration. I am
Todays_Illusion
May 2016
#97
I did not, nor have ever wished to realign the party as a Right wing fiscal party that Resembles
Dragonfli
May 2016
#108
Pretty long winded answer tio dance your way out of falsely claiming I wanted a party realignment
Dragonfli
May 2016
#135
So basically you're saying that you reject reality and substitute it with your own?
vintx
May 2016
#137
You are most welcome, all I do is simply speak my mind, I have payed attention for decades /nt
Dragonfli
May 2016
#119
Yes, I believe Bernie supporters are probably the most highly informed of the entire electorate.
2banon
May 2016
#127
So incredibly well thought out, I wish more people saw this dynamic for what it is.
vintx
May 2016
#129
It is not a "right wing alignment." It is a right (as in correct) alignment. The days of just
Jitter65
May 2016
#141
You didn't read the OP, it is coming from politicians and corporate "think tanks"
Dragonfli
May 2016
#142