Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
11. Thanks for the praise! I want to say a word for Dwight Eisenhower.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:40 AM
May 2016

I mentioned above that my mother thought our country needed saving by Adlai Stevenson from the clutches of Dwight Eisenhower and the Republicans. She believed it so fervently that she had us all pray for Adlai on election night. Adlai would have made a great president, no doubt about it. And Ike (as he was called) made--or couldn't stop the CIA from making--some very grave mistakes, such as overthrowing the first democratic government of Iran, and installing the horrible Shah who inflicted 25 years of torture and repression on the Iranian people...which led to the Iranian Islamic revolution. Interesting that even then, it was all about the oil. Iran's first president nationalized their oil (um, like Norway) and for that crime was deposed by us and the Brits.

Anyway, some bad mistakes, yes. But, given Ike's final speech, which gave us the phrase "military-industrial complex" and his grave warning against it, you gotta wonder with hindsight how much control he had over the shadow government.

Anyway, it was Dwight Eisenhower who said that "Anybody who opposes the New Deal doesn't belong in American politics." Also, during his tenure as president, taxes on the rich were as high as 90+%!!!

90+%--the proper tax level for the uber-rich! Now they pay nothing or next to nothing. Eisenhower would be appalled. And the schemes of the rich to privatize Social Security--schemed by the same 1%-ers who are funding Hillary Clinton--would further appall this old war hero, as would the war on Iraq and other horrors supported by, among others, Hillary Clinton, who has even personally engineered some of our horrors.

I'm not saying I'd be tempted by an Eisenhower-type Republican. I wouldn't want my poor old mother to roll over in her grave. I'm just thinking about history tonight and what it teaches. It teaches perspective. Tomorrow I'm going to start re-reading the Illiad, which gives us a really long perspective on stupid fucking wars.



Great commentary! I appreciated reading all of it. Thank you. bjo59 May 2016 #1
This stuff is very, very wise. Thank you for putting all of this out there. highprincipleswork May 2016 #2
brilliant and compelling. Thank you PP, you help us all see the truth of matters. bbgrunt May 2016 #3
Very much appreciated reading this. frustrated_lefty May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #5
An excellent read! Thanks for one of the best bvf May 2016 #6
nicely written boomer55 May 2016 #7
Brilliant post Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #8
The greatest thing I've read in over a month! Jack Bone May 2016 #9
Thank you. Helga Scow Stern May 2016 #10
Thanks for the praise! I want to say a word for Dwight Eisenhower. Peace Patriot May 2016 #11
HRC to the right of Dwight and slightly left of Raygun... tk2kewl May 2016 #17
Excellent points, both parties have veered so far right... Yurovsky May 2016 #27
Great posts, all of them. Broward May 2016 #12
Great post! K&R. nt DLevine May 2016 #13
Best compilation of DU posts ever!!! Thank you! reformist2 May 2016 #14
"... loyalty to ideals that this corporatized party has long since abandoned ..." Scuba May 2016 #15
Very well done! Thank you. Shemp Howard May 2016 #16
Read a little into first post. All the respected Dems of the past are now evil, since Sanders seabeyond May 2016 #18
+1 BootinUp May 2016 #37
I did not say "evil," and I did not say "all." I said "heroes no more"... Peace Patriot May 2016 #38
No, they do not coddle Sanders or play his game, support him or keep their damn mouth shut, then.... seabeyond May 2016 #40
Thank you. Beautifully written and well thought out. bklyncowgirl May 2016 #19
K&R! silvershadow May 2016 #20
I've Been A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT For 45 Years AND I Must Say... ChiciB1 May 2016 #21
Typed This Too Quickly, Please Excuse Typo Errors! I See Them... n/t ChiciB1 May 2016 #22
Typos forgiven! As to anger, yes, I feel anger, too. Great anger and betrayal, but... Peace Patriot May 2016 #49
the delusion is strong in this one bigtree May 2016 #23
Hey, bigtree, I'm a 71 year old blue collar worker and don't have much time this morning... Peace Patriot May 2016 #35
your personal history is fine, likely commendable bigtree May 2016 #43
No, you were not wrong - you were wonderful Samantha May 2016 #47
You were looking in the mirror when you made your comment, right? emsimon33 May 2016 #45
please bigtree May 2016 #54
Recommend Read... KoKo May 2016 #24
Recommended! me b zola May 2016 #25
Great read, great thoughts and well presented. Boldine May 2016 #26
Wonderful Post! pmorlan1 May 2016 #28
Kicking. Nanjeanne May 2016 #29
Rec-zilla! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #30
For sure nolabels May 2016 #42
BIG K&R! nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #31
K&R Punkingal May 2016 #32
Pretty, pretty, pretty, good Babel_17 May 2016 #33
Thank you.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #34
You're amazing, Peace Patriot. +1,000,000 nt. polly7 May 2016 #36
Thanks, polly7! You, too, are amazing. And what we're seeing in ourselves and others is... Peace Patriot May 2016 #41
This needs to go straight to the front page felix_numinous May 2016 #39
And....KICK glinda May 2016 #44
The best written, most logical and compelling piece I have read on DU since so many were banned emsimon33 May 2016 #46
K&R!!! cliffordu May 2016 #48
Outstanding OP, Peace Patriot! and to believe that Brock the slanderer of Anita Hill would change Uncle Joe May 2016 #50
Spot on on all fronts madokie May 2016 #51
Thank you. I feel exactly the same way that you do. CharlotteVale May 2016 #52
outstanding post, PP...and laser-sharp analysis... islandmkl May 2016 #53
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Thoughts of an old Califo...»Reply #11