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2016 Postmortem

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Skwmom

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Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:20 PM Jun 2016

This Article Nails It: Bernie is about to give Democrats their 'come to Jesus' moment [View all]

Last edited Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:12 PM - Edit history (3)

Update for those of you who are confused: Come to Jesus Moment:

An epiphany in which one realizes the truth of a matter; a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something; coming clean and admitting failures; realizing the true weight or impact of a negative situation or fact; acknowledgment that one must get back to core values; moment of realization; an aha moment; moment of decision; moment of truth; critical moment; moment of reassessment of priorities; turning point; life-changing moment.


...It started with Democratic voters in 2008; so disheartened and angered by eight years of war, recklessness, and social-Darwinism-masked-as-economic-policy, they delivered Barack Obama the White House on the belief he'd usher in a new era of capital Progressivism.

Disenchanted with Obama and 30 years of trickle-down economics and corporate America's purchase of Washington, D.C., Occupy Wall Street spread in the heart of the corruption only to ultimately fizzle.

And then there was Bernie Sanders.

For all the punditry about the Vermont Senator's historic rise (or lack thereof), a simple truth has been missing. Quite the contrary from some radical, "pie in the sky" revolutionary, Sanders is actually an FDR Democrat.

And the Democratic Party and establishment, who beginning in the 1970's decided to begin a pivot away from the working class and New Deal era in favor or wealthier suburbanites and corporatists, has fought Sanders every step of the way.

Sure, party leaders and lawmakers have delivered good lip service. Hillary Clinton—whose big-money donors from Wall Street, corporate America, K Street, and other special interests have served as her political oxygen throughout her career—lauded Sanders for challenging the Party on unaccountable money.

But she, and the Democratic establishment backing her, don't mean a damn word of it. No objective person can suggest Democrats haven't looked the other way as inequality exploded.

From the Clintons to Chuck Schumer to Harry Reid and other corporate Democrats—who love uttering the words middle class before heading to fundraisers with the same folks who've decimated it—the bottom line is clear.

When party leaders, even President Obama, talk about "pragmatism" and "incremental change," they're using code words; ones that rationalize the revolving door between corporate America, Wall Street, K Street, and Washington, D.C.—the one they've been complicit in swinging wide open.

But that sales pitch has been rejected by the voters the party needs to survive into the future—millennials, young African Americans and Latinos, and the working class. And from the hundreds I've met and interviewed on the campaign trail, they are for Sanders and don't give a damn about Democratic Party unity.

After all, what has it done for them? Most are mired in a dark cloud of student loan debt, low-income jobs (if they can even get that), and living paycheck-to-paycheck. They know the same pragmatism the establishment props up has helped fuel the funneling of wealth to the top 1 percent over the last three decades.

Which leaves California as the climax of the decades-long evolution from the Party of the People to the Party of the Corporations. With a potential win, which recent polling indicates is possible, Bernie Sanders would've won the majority of the remaining states—including the biggest one in the country.

......Huddled in Philadelphia, the Democratic establishment will finally have its come-to-Jesus moment: stay married to corporate money or return to its first love—the American middle class.


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/02/bernie-sanders-is-about-to-give-democrats-their-come-to-jesus-moment-commentary.html

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others say he's an Eisenhower Republican: either way, there's one political dynasty that's MisterP Jun 2016 #1
There are none so blind as those who will not see... Skwmom Jun 2016 #2
or get money or whuffie from the gravy-train system MisterP Jun 2016 #3
One of my favorite quotes. Duval Jun 2016 #23
WRONG! That diatribe tries to ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #4
Those statistics you cite are from a different time. There was no anti-establishment candidate cui bono Jun 2016 #8
There's no "anti-Establishment ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #12
My apologies. I thought I was responding to a rational human being living in reality. cui bono Jun 2016 #18
Project much? ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #19
... 2banon Jun 2016 #128
Never try to argue with a cultist--particularly a New Democrat "progressive". BillZBubb Jun 2016 #35
I saw a sig line yesterday, can't remembere whose. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #79
Mark Twain. JimDandy Jun 2016 #95
What a treasure! dchill Jun 2016 #103
good quote! 2banon Jun 2016 #129
The irony being his user name "ProgressiveEconomist." Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #114
Where is the virtue in ignoring what Hortensis Jun 2016 #141
I've made that mistake here a few times myself Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #78
Lol! KPN Jun 2016 #120
And there you have it. "What are they going to do, vote for Trump?" TransitJohn Jun 2016 #42
Isn't that what Bill Clinton said sandyshoes17 Jun 2016 #53
Yes, that's been the " New Democrat" DLC, Third Way line going back to the mid-80's Beowulf Jun 2016 #72
I almost feel sad for them that they do not realize how many backs they are facing. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #96
And stabbing. dchill Jun 2016 #135
now, now, nothing wrong with getting screwed once in awhile, 2banon Jun 2016 #130
Bingo. rateyes Jun 2016 #55
Yep. Back on the plantation, you. Step lively! n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #76
The ones I know personally will NOT vote for Hillary. djean111 Jun 2016 #54
I know I won't. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #115
ProgressiveEconomist—Good point! Every election sees a shift of +0. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #94
You just hide and watch notadmblnd Jun 2016 #102
So anyone in history who advocated a progressive change from the status quo ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #113
You are absolutely right, which is the ONLY reason your post produced the shrieks that it did Number23 Jun 2016 #132
A career politician with 30 years in Congress isn't what I'd call anti-establishment. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #137
I've talked to voters in the group he is talking about and he is spot on. Skwmom Jun 2016 #21
Let's be charitable ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #24
Who said that? What I said is I have spoken to (know) young African-Americans and Latinos and Skwmom Jun 2016 #27
"he is spot on" ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #36
Apparently there are polls that show this passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #44
"Try google" to ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #47
Yeah, I thought so passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #51
Why not google BEFORE ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #59
what did I post twice? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #64
Well, try the bible. I've heard it's in there. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #80
Here is one, but doubt it'll be enough ... ebayfool Jun 2016 #82
Thanks. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #83
His campaign is still viable. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #116
Apples and oranges. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #85
The author is referring to the current election, not 2008. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #112
messiah complex from the get go nt msongs Jun 2016 #5
Yup Bernie the savior workinclasszero Jun 2016 #15
This is the dung that reveals the shallow nature of well, the status quo. libdem4life Jun 2016 #46
Probably misquoting ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #117
Correct and right on. libdem4life Jun 2016 #126
Thank you! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #139
Messiah? Where have I heard that before? frylock Jun 2016 #20
Thank you for making this observation... saves me the trouble. SalviaBlue Jun 2016 #57
Do you understand what a come to jesus moment means? Skwmom Jun 2016 #22
Obama isn't running this year. That was the attack used on him. Did you forget or are jillan Jun 2016 #84
Wow what desperation. Sen Sanders has been singing the same song for decades. You either rhett o rick Jun 2016 #86
This leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #106
Clinton supporters agree with her on any particular issue. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #119
If you ask what their stand is on an issue they won't answer because they are afraid rhett o rick Jun 2016 #123
Ah, the Christ complex again. Is that in third person? Lol seabeyond Jun 2016 #6
Well, now that you mention it... findrskeep Jun 2016 #25
The Golden Rule? Do onto others as we want done onto us? Really? Lol. Sanders seabeyond Jun 2016 #30
That is plainly not true. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #121
Nu uh. seabeyond Jun 2016 #122
So... in essence... you want other to call you out.... Matt_R Jun 2016 #125
That's not what the Come to Jesus Moment refers to. libdem4life Jun 2016 #48
lost cause, there nt grasswire Jun 2016 #65
Become a believer.... Make of it what you will. seabeyond Jun 2016 #68
OK, then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #71
K&R.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #7
K & R imagine2015 Jun 2016 #9
K&R - Damn well said Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #10
As they say, the love of money is the root of all evil. n/t Skwmom Jun 2016 #127
Clinton would be a fool to unilaterally disarm... brooklynite Jun 2016 #11
Yet he's still outpolling Trump better than Clinton. eom Fawke Em Jun 2016 #13
Please tell me that's not the argument Sanders will be giving to the Superdelegates... brooklynite Jun 2016 #14
And I say, hallelujah, it is time to come-to-Jesus, and vote for the man who is preaching his pdsimdars Jun 2016 #16
Yes, he is a very bright light. findrskeep Jun 2016 #29
Yeah, those pesky Beatitudes...downright socialist spoken by a hippie. libdem4life Jun 2016 #49
Watching Bernie's campaign grow from nothing a year ago senz Jun 2016 #87
K&R vintx Jun 2016 #17
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #26
Yeah, but there are two Jesuses. HassleCat Jun 2016 #28
And one of those is the true Jesus findrskeep Jun 2016 #33
stay married to corporate money or return to its first love—the American middle class. elleng Jun 2016 #31
Really so what is your plan to get rid of United? We all want that but how? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #143
I'm not disenchanted with Obama hollowdweller Jun 2016 #32
Obama didn't move the needle to the left at all! cui bono Jun 2016 #39
Exactly Carolina Jun 2016 #77
Better known in my New Orleans neck of the woods Aerows Jun 2016 #34
Good party history from the progressive p.o.v. Thanks! I hope you're right. ancianita Jun 2016 #37
Raving angry socialist be destroyed by trump beachbumbob Jun 2016 #38
Bernie is telling people what the Democratic party once was, could be again and should be again. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #40
You may be right. I hope not but if you are most of us will jwirr Jun 2016 #133
Why name a secular phenomenon after a religious figure? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #41
No one is looking for a religious figure findrskeep Jun 2016 #43
"we have the power to change" Just not the votes. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #45
Oh, good, um, lord. This is used all the time. It's not religious. libdem4life Jun 2016 #50
How do you not understand that Buddha and Jesus are religious figures? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #52
OK, then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #58
If you are religious they are. To me they are characters of literature and myth and culture. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #70
I look at it as merely an idiom. Skwmom Jun 2016 #62
I think you're off by one letter there. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #63
It's a painfully common figure of speech. phleshdef Jun 2016 #118
Who has the power and money to pull us out of the economic hole? They don't really need many Jitter65 Jun 2016 #56
you sound far too much like a Republican, contempt for voters and the works. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #66
They are letting a TYT anchor quote on CNBC? trudyco Jun 2016 #60
The "Come to Jesus moment" rock Jun 2016 #61
Why get stuck on an idiom? It just means 'moment of reckoning'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #67
It's a poor analogy rock Jun 2016 #73
Oh, I disagree. It is extremely fitting. Skwmom Jun 2016 #75
That's funny Meteor Man Jun 2016 #81
I agree that it is a loaded phrase that distracts from the point being made GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #98
Epiphany. From the (non-Judeo, pre-Christian) Greek. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #105
I also like them both rock Jun 2016 #107
I don't get it. In 2008, I canvassed for Obama because I felt the energy and enthusiasm from him. randome Jun 2016 #69
A lot of his coworkers are corporatist sellouts. Skwmom Jun 2016 #74
Okee dokee then, enjoy these special vibes instead. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #88
Well, I don't really get that much from Clinton, either. randome Jun 2016 #91
Bernie has worked year after year on the people's amendments AND passed the biggest VA legislation. Skwmom Jun 2016 #97
It takes a certain amount of ego to put yourself in a leadership position. randome Jun 2016 #99
Absolute perfection. Contemplating creating a sock puppet so I can rec it twice. Barack_America Jun 2016 #89
It really sums it up. Skwmom Jun 2016 #131
Jesus! tandem5 Jun 2016 #90
Excellent piece!! But I am sitting here lmao at all the people that never heard the term jillan Jun 2016 #92
That's why I provided a definition. Skwmom Jun 2016 #93
K&R blackspade Jun 2016 #100
Down with corporatists Third Wayers! Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #101
Damn skippy, CV farleftlib Jun 2016 #140
The establishment claims to be surprised by this. That makes them either naive or liars. Scuba Jun 2016 #104
A "Come to Jesus Moment" pinebox Jun 2016 #108
My bet.. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #109
Nailed it! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #110
thanks for this! Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #111
How about we call it a 'come to Jesus (hey-Zeus)' moment so folks.. aidbo Jun 2016 #124
Occupy didn't fizzle Paulie Jun 2016 #134
It ain't going to happen. Beacool Jun 2016 #136
The author of that piece seems to think Bernie IS Jesus. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #138
Isn't it about time for the obligatory "X days left!" comment? Buns_of_Fire Jun 2016 #142
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