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10. ...how do you know... indeed
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jun 2016

They didn't 'challenge' because she's taking positions they embrace, HRC is a hawk, and so are they

Here are some excerpts from her speech yesterday:

"And if America doesn’t lead, we leave a vacuum – and that will either cause chaos, or other countries will rush in to fill the void. Then they’ll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety – and trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit.
That is not an outcome we can live with."

She will continue the current wars and promote the US 'policing' the rest of the world...

"Third, we need to embrace all the tools of American power, especially diplomacy and development, to be on the frontlines solving problems before they threaten us at home." ... "Now we must enforce that deal vigorously. And as I’ve said many times before, our approach must be “distrust and verify.” The world must understand that the United States will act decisively if necessary, including with military action, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. In particular, Israel’s security is non-negotiable. They’re our closest ally in the region, and we have a moral obligation to defend them."

When did the US need to become more imperialistic? when did this become a progressive / liberal position?

"Fifth, we need a real plan for confronting terrorists. As we saw six months ago in San Bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. Over the past year, I’ve laid out my plans for defeating ISIS.
We need to take out their strongholds in Iraq and Syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for Arab and Kurdish forces on the ground."

Now she's throwing Obama under the bus? 'we need a real plan for confronting terrorists'? Obama doesn't have a real plan being acted upon currently?

"And one more thing. A President has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must, and only with a clear and well-thought-out strategy. Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that."

Where does Libya fall into the category of 'well thought out'?

And some nutty people here are hating it also. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #1
Yeah, that is unfortunate. DCBob Jun 2016 #2
The "Two Irrelevants" Baobab Jun 2016 #40
Lets say i am a "never trump" supporter, and that means hillary! Logical Jun 2016 #44
Great! DCBob Jun 2016 #45
only 2 groups that were critical beachbum bob Jun 2016 #3
"only 2 groups that were critical" DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #4
Mastercard? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #39
So... the right, and the left? Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #5
actually the extreme left beachbum bob Jun 2016 #6
"Extreme" Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #8
Where are you walking? grossproffit Jun 2016 #22
Not into the booth to vote for Hillary. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #41
I too engage in self-validating allegations LanternWaste Jun 2016 #36
Indeed.. telling. DCBob Jun 2016 #7
a lot of Sanders supporters were supportive. these are the ones who haven't lost perspective geek tragedy Jun 2016 #33
It was an absolute trouncing. auntpurl Jun 2016 #9
I wish I had Aerows Jun 2016 #12
Ok. Move to the UK, then. auntpurl Jun 2016 #13
+1 Problem solved. grossproffit Jun 2016 #23
...how do you know... indeed HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #10
Do you support President Obama's view of foreign policy and terrorism? DCBob Jun 2016 #14
So you embrace her war hawk positions? HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #18
You didnt answer my question.. DCBob Jun 2016 #31
..not when she embraces war hawk positions... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #34
We as her supporters can push back on whatever we want.. DCBob Jun 2016 #43
So, fight the GOP by becoming just like them? Baobab Jun 2016 #46
What an absurd comment. DCBob Jun 2016 #47
I guess it depends on where your moral compass points Aerows Jun 2016 #11
Do you support President Obama's view of foreign policy? DCBob Jun 2016 #15
There are some important differences hellofromreddit Jun 2016 #25
You can attempt to warp reality Aerows Jun 2016 #30
And you also know by the way Bernie and his supporters responded! nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #16
Indeed. They cant stand it when she's right. DCBob Jun 2016 #17
what ARE they saying in re: the speech? hlthe2b Jun 2016 #19
Don't know about RW radio, but here's some press reaction auntpurl Jun 2016 #20
thanks for that.... hlthe2b Jun 2016 #21
Of course they did criticize her regarding her accomplishments as SOS. DCBob Jun 2016 #32
Twisting the nipples of a bunch of already-angry republicans is not an accomplishment. hellofromreddit Jun 2016 #24
That speech was not aimed at Trump's rabid minions auntpurl Jun 2016 #26
I was responding to OP's argument. Yours is a different one. hellofromreddit Jun 2016 #27
"No sense in not picking up Bernie voters" auntpurl Jun 2016 #28
Will crossover republicans count for more than that? BoB folks are mostly new democrats. hellofromreddit Jun 2016 #29
I think at this point LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #35
The angry howling Repubs are a lost cause.. DCBob Jun 2016 #42
Yup, noticed the same on the "comedy channel" aka FAUX last night Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #37
She eviscerated him. It will haunt him the rest of the campaign. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #38
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