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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:06 PM

43. Um you can't read the TPP

 

https://theintercept.com/2015/06/13/cant-read-tpp-cant-find-congress/

Are you seriously arguing pro TPP? Wow, I smell a plant. If you claim to be pro-consumer by definition you cannot also be pro-TPP. Those two don't go together unless you have convoluted capitalism and humanism, which is no bueno. Anyways, the context to many of those bills is they have given up/alienated rights of workers/individuals protections, not gone far enough. So it's a matter of perspective and context.

Historically for example, you can say oh wow, look what Columbus did, crossed the ocean and all that, yay, but he killed how many native Arawacks and mainland Indians through genocide and slavery?

Or a more pertinent example take the Clintons crime bill of the 90's, she and Bill like to tout the lowest unemployment rate statistic for African Americans. Well if you add in the incarceration rate by product of said legislation the net effect is that unemployment essentially stayed unchanged, but the cultural and societal impact, well that's just barely being understood today. It wasn't good though, the decimation of the black community being its after effect.

I'm just after truth and fair context, a lot of those bills are poor retreads of a tire of corporate power. Women will still make less than men, the latest bill didn't really address the inherent sexism in hiring/employment. So to argue the democrats and Clinton by proxy are the next heralding of an progressive movement.

Well, I chortle.

I am chortling now.

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