2016 Postmortem

HumanityExperiment

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14. principle

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:04 AM

Jun 2016

He's fighting for principle, progressive principles to be exact

Party over principle... this is the bit, HRC and her supporters embrace and what they fail to understand about Bernie's campaign

Simply put, DEM establishment is in uncharted waters, they have NO bearing to guide them... their flailing until convention will be a thing to behold...

'Sore winner' will be the tamest of the adjectives to define them...

Principle matters so much more than party.. and this lesson will hurt... and hurt badly rolling into and through convention but one DEM establishment will learn

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What does Bernie actually want? In reality. Specifically what is he fighting for now? [View all] YouDig Jun 2016 OP

To be recognized. He apparently grown quite fond of the adulation of his fans. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

+1. He's become addicted to the attention after so many decades of being inconsequential. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #9

Egomaniac liberal N proud Jun 2016 #21

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #2

He's a smart dude, there's got to be some actual goal, I think. YouDig Jun 2016 #4

I disagree. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #5

K&R PJMcK Jun 2016 #8

The time Sanders has been in Congress has been a time of him following, never leading. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51

Hell yes. The GOP is the enemy. Whatever differences between H and B, compared to T, nothing!! YouDig Jun 2016 #54

I'm with you, YouDig! (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #55

Seems riled up about the process BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #3

More $$ for Jeff Weaver. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #6

America is the ONLY wealthy nation not providing universal healthcare think Jun 2016 #7

How is not endorsing Hillary helping that? That's what I'm asking. Tactically, what is this about? YouDig Jun 2016 #10

Ya know, it really is odd that somebody would bring up universal healthcare about Hillary tonyt53 Jun 2016 #27

Ironic right? Why the GOP hate her so much, the reason for Whitewhater and Benghazi and Emails and YouDig Jun 2016 #31

Thank you so much GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #62

Then Sanders should have worked harder in 2009 annavictorious Jun 2016 #34

Universal public healthcare. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #11

All great stuff Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #13

Sure. But that is true for any dem candidate. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #16

But voting results indicate otherwise. Check out Bernie's preferences from last nigh. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #29

Down ticket ballots won't matter if the GOP wins the presidency... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #61

How does contesting the convention help bring that stuff about. YouDig Jun 2016 #22

He can't stand losing and is bitter and angry. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #12

principle HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #14

I'm asking for specifics. Everyone fights for principle. YouDig Jun 2016 #15

He will endorse Hillary after the last primary. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #17

If he does that, I will be the happiest repositioner of dreary attacks that you've ever seen. YouDig Jun 2016 #19

...'instead fight on futilely'... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #18

You're talking about policies, I'm talking about tactics. YouDig Jun 2016 #20

people HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #25

The Politico article said that the nasty tone annavictorious Jun 2016 #35

perception HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #40

Principle will always remain an abstract without being grounded in policy Haveadream Jun 2016 #42

agree to disagree... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #48

No amount of TELLING you has sunk in, has it. I'll tell you a little off the top of my head. ancianita Jun 2016 #23

Thank you. Specifics. What I was asking for. YouDig Jun 2016 #24

Now we can talk. "Progressive" is concretely laid out at either ontheissues.org or berniesanders.com ancianita Jun 2016 #26

They don't want to 'talk' HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #28

Not really, there are always gradations of this stuff. YouDig Jun 2016 #30

Why not? It's not complicated. It's committing to Less Selling Out to corporate priorities ancianita Jun 2016 #32

That's a platitude. Everyone is against selling out. If this is actually going to happen, if YouDig Jun 2016 #36

No platitude according to the MILLIONS and whole states supporting Bernie. You don't get Bernie. ancianita Jun 2016 #46

I agree that the country, or the Dems at least, are ready for a left turn. YouDig Jun 2016 #47

Too bad. You think just anybody else could have brought progressives together? Think some more. ancianita Jun 2016 #49

Too bad what? Do you think Trump becoming president is some kind of revenge for Bernie? YouDig Jun 2016 #50

Too bad "That still doesn't change what I think of Bernie." You need to thank Bernie for ancianita Jun 2016 #52

OK. Thank you Bernie. Now let's vote Hillary. Otherwise we get Trump. YouDig Jun 2016 #53

Amen, brotha. ancianita Jun 2016 #57

Amen, sista (just based on the trailing "a", otherwise brotha). YouDig Jun 2016 #58

Remember: ancianita Jun 2016 #59

Most people are here to engage in meaningful discussion, but QC Jun 2016 #39

Or to force preventers to get on board with constructive thinking. ancianita Jun 2016 #41

I admire your optimism. n/t QC Jun 2016 #43

We need to keep lines of communication open, healthier, and take frequent breaks. Like me. Right now ancianita Jun 2016 #44

The losing side doesn't get to dictate conditions to the winning side, annavictorious Jun 2016 #37

Really. Under minority rights a party DOES. IF they are a party with depth and range.Think on that. ancianita Jun 2016 #38

He's a politician texstad79 Jun 2016 #33

He's fighting Faux pas Jun 2016 #45

As a Clinton Supporter... jamese777 Jun 2016 #56

Big Money out of politics... Orsino Jun 2016 #60