2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What does Bernie actually want? In reality. Specifically what is he fighting for now? [View all]ancianita
(36,442 posts)The Something Else Bernie and Berners Want:
1. Bernie Sanders wants to keep his word to FINISH the primary, THEN he can concede.
2.. Berners want restructured party platform to set progressive goals and remove pro-corporate goals.
3. To get rid of Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
4. To get Hillary to actually lay out a progressive agenda during her campaign.
5. To get Hillary to pledge NOT to end or sign any legislation that rescinds any current social safety net programs for Americans -- Social Security, etc.
6. To get Hillary to pledge to have the party monetarily support new progressives trying to enter national party politics -- finally.
7. To put progressives into whip positions within Congress, whether or not downticket wins get us a majority, which they should.
There's more, but you can hear them from others.
Seriously, so many of you Hillary supporters have been in denial about her past record, so lucky in the utter stupidity of her Republican opponent, that you have not even cared to TRY to see just how important some actual, solid structural changes in this party, government and society need to be.
Obama can see it, or he'd not have called and talked with Bernie about what will happen. So why can't you Hillary people??
Depending on concessions from Hillary -- which she'd be stupid not to make -- Bernie will endorse her.
Then the movement decides to split or unite.
Seriously, after all this discussion, I can't believe any Berner still has to explain this shit to a Hillary supporter.
Anyway, onward. I suppose I could see this thread as a summation of what's to be expected.