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2016 Postmortem

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Time for change

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Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:20 PM Jun 2016

California Called for Clinton While 800,000-3,000,000 Ballots Remain Uncounted [View all]

Greg Palast warned us that this would likely happen. Palast is the investigative reporter who more than anyone else documented how George W. Bush stole the Florida 2000 Presidential election that gave Bush the final electoral votes he needed to win the election. On June 1st 2016 Palast wrote of the coming Democratic primary in California that some poll workers have been told to give No Party Preference (NPP) voters provisional ballots rather than regular ballots. He urged voters to demand a regular Democratic ballot because, as many of us know, provisional ballots are usually not counted.

I did phone banking for Bernie. My job was to contact NPP voters and tell them that they had to ask for a Democratic ballot (or a Democratic “crossover” ballot) when they go to the polls, or if they’ve already been sent a “non-partisan” ballot (which doesn’t give them the opportunity to vote for President) they have to bring it to the polls to exchange for a Democratic ballot. The goal was to provide these instructions to all NPP voters in the state. But so many calls go unanswered – what percentage of NPP voters actually get the correct information?

The importance of this to the Sanders campaign was huge. Record breaking new voter registrations in California resulted in 4.2 million registered NPP voters by Election Day. Polls show that these voters vote for Sanders by a margin of approximately 40%.

But when California was called for Clinton on Wednesday morning, a bare minimum of 800 thousand ballots remained uncounted – including provisional ballots and late mail-in ballots. The 800 K number was arrived at by 11 California counties that reported solid numbers of uncounted ballots. But there are 58 counties in California. Nobody knows at this time the total number of uncounted ballots. Estimates of uncounted ballots range from 1 million to 3 million. And these estimates don’t even include the many eligible voters who were turned away from the polls on Election Day without even being given a chance to vote provisionally.

The official vote count had Clinton ahead by about 440 thousand votes. How can they call the election with so many votes uncounted, especially when most of them are disproportionately likely to be for the candidate who’s losing?


Election Day, June 7 in California

The reality of Election Day in California turned out to be far worse than even Palast was warning of. Investigations show an aggressive attempt to disenfranchise Sanders voters. Palast wrote on Election Day, June 7:

In some counties like Los Angeles, it's not easy for an NPP to claim their right to vote in the Democratic primary – and in other counties, nearly impossible. Example: In Santa Rosa, Sonoma County, if you don’t say the magic words, “I want a Democratic crossover ballot,” you are automatically given a ballot without the presidential race. And ready for this, if an NPP voter asks the poll worker, “How do I get to vote in the Democratic party primary”, they are instructed to say, “NPP voters can’t get Democratic ballots.” They are ordered not to breathe a word that the voter can get a “crossover” ballot that includes the presidential race. I’m not kidding. This is from the official Election Officer Training Manual page 49:
"A No Party Preference voter will need to request a crossover ballot from the Roster Index Officer. (Do not offer them a crossover ballot if they do not ask)."…

If an NPP voter doesn’t say they are “surrendering” their NPP ballot, the clerk can take it and count it blank instead of giving the voter a new one… Election Justice USA filed still more declarations with the courts of poll workers being told to give NPP voters “provisional” ballots even if they say the magic words, “I want a crossover Democratic ballot.”


Poll worker Jeff Lewis, who was abhorred by the training he received, filed a description of the training in an official declaration to a federal court:

Someone raised their hand and asked a follow-up question: ‘So, what if someone gets a nonpartisan ballot, notices it doesn't have the presidential candidates on it, and asks you where they are?’ The answer poll workers are instructed to give: ‘Sorry, NPP ballots don't have presidential candidates on them.’


Another California poll worker, Ashley Beck, complained:

I was told that all NPP voters are to be given provisional ballots. I was bothered by that, because I was always told that NPP voters in California can vote for Democrats and their vote would be counted…. We all know what happens most of the time with provisional ballots. They are not being counted.”


The Los Angeles Times announced hundreds of reports of additional problems in an article titled: ‘It was just chaos’: Broken machines, incomplete voter rolls leave some wondering whether their ballots will be counted. As if the impediments to obtaining a Democratic “crossover” ballot weren’t bad enough, some counties ran out of them, thus ensuring that NPP voters wouldn’t be able to vote on a regular ballot. Other counties demanded that first time voters (likely Sanders voters) show official voter ID, even though California law doesn’t require it. And as we’ve seen all through this primary season, many would-be voters are complaining that their voter registration was purged or changed to Republican (which prohibits them from voting in the Democratic primary) without their knowledge, and most of these would-be voters are Sanders would-be voters.


So why did they call the election with so many votes uncounted

The reason the election was called with so many votes uncounted is not hard to understand. It is exactly the same reason why our corporate “news” media timed their false announcement of Clinton “clinching” the Democratic nomination for the day before the California and five other Democratic primaries. It is the same reason why all of the powerful establishment forces within and outside of the Democratic Party have done everything they can since day one to prevent the nomination of Bernie Sanders. Their status, power, and wealth are vested in the status quo. The Sanders campaign is all about disrupting the status quo – leveling the playing field and giving the American people more control over their lives. It’s that simple.

Efforts are currently underway to force a counting of the uncounted California ballots prior to certification of Tuesday’s election. We will see what happens. If they are not counted, this should come up at the July Democratic National Convention.
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Hillary won metroins Jun 2016 #1
Votes don't matter now. the establishment used their propaganda media to NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #91
Conspiracy Theory metroins Jun 2016 #92
Some contests are called right away MFM008 Jun 2016 #2
Yeah, they really kow their business Time for change Jun 2016 #5
Why some cannot see this is baffling. Duval Jun 2016 #11
Some of us live in the reality based world. annavictorious Jun 2016 #58
They didn't "ignore" the fact that SDs won't formally vote until July onenote Jun 2016 #12
They reported that she "clinched" the nomination Time for change Jun 2016 #25
All media outlets were using the word "clinch" well before the bogus announcement. senz Jun 2016 #43
I don't have sympathy for people who only read headlines. onenote Jun 2016 #63
Do you have any sympathy for people who write headlines that contradict the body of the article? Time for change Jun 2016 #115
Forget the superdelegates leftynyc Jun 2016 #17
No, it is NOT over Time for change Jun 2016 #27
Makes no difference to me leftynyc Jun 2016 #31
Really???? Beacool Jun 2016 #53
Yes and things could happen between election day and the first Monday after the second Wednesday i onenote Jun 2016 #64
It is over Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #85
Hope you find somewhere else to discuss it. MFM008 Jun 2016 #106
were they wrong? MFM008 Jun 2016 #34
No they did not. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #82
It's so fucking corrupt Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #66
Clinton's 300,000 Vote Lead Might Have had Something to do with it Stallion Jun 2016 #3
But more likely they're justing counting on the provisional ballots not being counted Time for change Jun 2016 #4
Direct from Secretary of State: Clintons lead bhas Grown to Almost 450,000 Stallion Jun 2016 #6
Well THAT certainly puts leftynyc Jun 2016 #18
It was already almost 450,000 when the race was called Time for change Jun 2016 #20
You can keep track here: bhikkhu Jun 2016 #100
Thank you for the link Time for change Jun 2016 #110
Or more likely, the way the spread played out, Clinton would get just as many votes as Bernie justiceischeap Jun 2016 #7
Of course they "broke" for Clinton Time for change Jun 2016 #8
Yes, I've read the CA voter election laws and bylaws when this story "broke" justiceischeap Jun 2016 #16
Did you read the OP? Time for change Jun 2016 #21
Because I'm a democrat that is fine with Indies having to jump through some hoops justiceischeap Jun 2016 #32
Extraordinary measures? Like "hey, it might be a good idea to read the info packet we sent you"? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #33
No "extraordinary measures" involved in proceeding according to long-established election laws. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #48
Bernie Sanders has protested this "voter suppression", has he? brooklynite Jun 2016 #24
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. senz Jun 2016 #42
I know what the end result is... brooklynite Jun 2016 #47
Bullshit. Provisional ballots are always counted. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #26
They are only counted if those responsible for the election decide to count them. Time for change Jun 2016 #46
Just wanted to clarify something. Provisional ballots are not always counted. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #60
True, what I meant is that contrary to some conspiracy theories they're never just thrown out. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #61
You're either hopelessly ignorant or you're just making this up Time for change Jun 2016 #75
In New York, the Board of Elections which was responsible for all the voter purging and changing Time for change Jun 2016 #74
The sandard for which provisional ballots to count in New York was very simple. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #93
This. The Republicans in CA want a Hillary win. scscholar Jun 2016 #59
Please listen to yourself GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #109
Why would anyone think the provisionals aren't going to be counted? onenote Jun 2016 #79
They counted only about 20% of them in NY Time for change Jun 2016 #95
The story that 1 million provisionals have been discarded is not true. onenote Jun 2016 #96
So how many years do you think it will take for individual voters to challenge all those provisional Time for change Jun 2016 #114
counties have until july 8 to send in certified results. the state does not certify til AFTER that msongs Jun 2016 #9
What does this have to do with anything I wrote? Time for change Jun 2016 #22
Your the one suggesting the provisionals wouldn't be counted onenote Jun 2016 #80
When the certification takes place has little or nothing to do with whether the provisional ballots Time for change Jun 2016 #113
We don't have Election Days. We have Voter Suppression Days now. nt valerief Jun 2016 #10
Wait. It turns out that turnout wasn't suppressed and the votes are being counted onenote Jun 2016 #81
Are you serious? Time for change Jun 2016 #116
Establishment, DNC and media power & money depend on status quo to prop 'em up Triana Jun 2016 #13
Resistance can take many forms. senz Jun 2016 #40
They think by paying off the right people felix_numinous Jun 2016 #14
please post your list of all the paid off people, along with proof of course ;-) nt msongs Jun 2016 #19
Why? Ratings - they all want to be the first Retrograde Jun 2016 #15
If there are substantial doubts about the outcome of an election it shouldn't be called Time for change Jun 2016 #23
There aren't any substantial doubts about the outcome though. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #28
If Bernie doesn't care, why should you? brooklynite Jun 2016 #30
Comity is not lack of caring. Do not ever try to sow division among Bernie supporters. senz Jun 2016 #41
Show me where I'm wrong. How has Bernie expressed concern with the CA outcome? brooklynite Jun 2016 #45
"the fact that a very large number of them are likely " TwilightZone Jun 2016 #35
I accounted for more than a few incidents myself nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #29
Please tell us about them Time for change Jun 2016 #73
They had to because she was going to lose. senz Jun 2016 #36
That's a bunch of wishful thinking nonsense put forth by Bernie supporters. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #50
Oh boy, David Shuster, a guy whose anti-Clinton bias goes back decades onenote Jun 2016 #65
Googe the results of the CA Dem Presidential Primary BernieforPres2016 Jun 2016 #37
I actually thought of having Jimmy Carter to come in to observe it. senz Jun 2016 #38
Whereas the CA Secretary of State's Retrograde Jun 2016 #69
Uninformed voters apcalc Jun 2016 #39
WOW RogerM Jun 2016 #44
No, WE cannot move on Time for change Jun 2016 #70
It must be...duh duh da...A CONSPIRACY!! eastwestdem Jun 2016 #49
Oh, sweet Lord, when will this be over???? Beacool Jun 2016 #51
worst case, not for 8 1/2 years grasswire Jun 2016 #54
Nonsense. Beacool Jun 2016 #55
enjoy your ride, then. grasswire Jun 2016 #57
Me too. It's become boorish. grossproffit Jun 2016 #68
Lawd. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #78
Thanks....... Beacool Jun 2016 #83
;) sheshe2 Jun 2016 #84
and exit polling was discontinued grasswire Jun 2016 #52
It's always one conspiracy theory or another. YouDig Jun 2016 #56
The OP was basically facts, not theories. Time for change Jun 2016 #71
A lot of these analyses are overly simplistic. onenote Jun 2016 #62
I've seen enough of your posts that I wouldn't take your word for anything Time for change Jun 2016 #87
Here you go (I've also updated my post with links): onenote Jun 2016 #90
The link to the 5.286 million unprocessed ballots you refer to appears not to be working Time for change Jun 2016 #98
It is constantly being updated, but it should work onenote Jun 2016 #99
It was widespread. It's even in the training manual Time for change Jun 2016 #117
This happens literally every election. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #67
Rather than accepting the status quo... kadaholo Jun 2016 #72
What is broken? Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #94
Stop being a bunch of whiny oswaldactedalone Jun 2016 #76
Stop being a supporter of and apologist for election fraud Time for change Jun 2016 #88
Thanks for posting, Tfc! RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #77
Thank you, Rufus Time for change Jun 2016 #89
Voters could change their registration to Democratic up until May 23 oberliner Jun 2016 #86
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #97
This would not change anything... chillfactor Jun 2016 #101
They'll be over.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #104
No, the vote was called with 100.0% of precincts reporting. ucrdem Jun 2016 #102
Some counties report a precinct as having "reported" the moment it reports its first vote onenote Jun 2016 #108
By the numbers jamese777 Jun 2016 #103
I'm getting so tired of seeing those numbers Time for change Jun 2016 #111
There were states called for Bernie immediately after the polls closed BainsBane Jun 2016 #105
Good post. The CA primary went down exactly as I expected ucrdem Jun 2016 #107
The point is that CA poll workers were given instructions to make ALL NPP voters vote by provisional Time for change Jun 2016 #112
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