2016 Postmortem

Ace Rothstein

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Reply to YouDig (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:14 AM

Jun 2016

It is obvious that many Sanders supporters want Clinton to lose in November, even if it results in a Trump presidency.

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Nina Turner bitterly slams Elizabeth Warren. [View all] sufrommich Jun 2016 OP

She's very bitter and resentful, isn't she? Feel the unity, Nina ... #FeelTheUnity. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1

#FleeTheBern Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #9

Bwaahaaaa! "#NinaNeedsAJob" Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #68

Just like the rest of us will if New Dems have their way. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #121

What a despicable attack on a true Democratic progressive. Kentonio Jun 2016 #149

#FleeTheBern !!!! Number23 Jun 2016 #199

And she's very accurate, like it or not. floriduck Jun 2016 #22

She is sowing and perpetuating discontent ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #52

! Phlem Jun 2016 #65

Sow greiner3 Jun 2016 #170

I think you meant sew. Phlem Jun 2016 #171

sow is correct-like sowing seeds redstateblues Jun 2016 #187

Math class, English class. . . . Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #247

So easily, you apparently mistook the usage of "sow." So unfortunate. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #273

Maybe so but she was accurately telling it like it is. Not like someone worried about repercussion. floriduck Jun 2016 #67

What does she hope to accomplish? What's her motivation? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #75

She's setting the stage for future election cycles when more and more progressive candidates floriduck Jun 2016 #84

If Trump ever got in Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #118

Oh, the pie in the Sky people versus the DINO - saurs. Whatever works to support ignorance. floriduck Jun 2016 #158

Or...the purists who can't compromise apcalc Jun 2016 #202

She's not "telling it like it is". She says Bernie was ENTITLED to Warren's endorsement, which is bs CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #80

That's a very narrow view of her intentions. She's sending a message to future super delegates if floriduck Jun 2016 #90

That waiting for the race to end isn't ok? Isn't that exactly what Bernie wanted? Get it straight. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #91

Nina seems angry Dem2 Jun 2016 #76

She plays-well to the folks who already supported Bernie, but she added nothing to his campaign ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #82

Worst surrogates ever! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #103

I sure was turned off by her. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #108

Really? The minute I heard her speek…. I was relieved that she was smart, thoughtful and sincere. midnight Jun 2016 #228

I think this applies to ALL of Sanders' surrogates... brooklynite Jun 2016 #142

Sanders supporters aren't like poor Claire McCaskill who couldn't explain appalachiablue Jun 2016 #256

I know Nina Turner and I respect her... brooklynite Jun 2016 #268

An angry, unreasonable black woman. Really, keep going. I want to see how low this gets. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #220

What? Dem2 Jun 2016 #224

That's brilliant, mature too. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #227

You made a ridiculous accusation Dem2 Jun 2016 #229

You made offensive, loaded comments and know it. Shame is yours, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #232

You brought race into this Dem2 Jun 2016 #233

I told you to lose the game flipping. Get help if you can't stop. Later. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #235

Exactly. She needs to see that sowing further division doesn't help anyone..... Sheepshank Jun 2016 #172

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #205

Clearly you are a mind reader. 840high Jun 2016 #214

Baloney Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #106

She is actually wrong. Flat out wrong. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #112

+1 n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #143

I suppose Hillary speaks for Progressives? Ha Ha Ha Awknid Jun 2016 #211

Sure. lol 840high Jun 2016 #215

Hillary never claimed to ha ha ha Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #248

In what way is she accurate? Nina Turner is speaking nonsense. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #180

Poor Nina's head is going to explode when Bernie endorses Hillary !!! OnDoutside Jun 2016 #51

Lock the rabbits up! She's really pissed off because she's berned all of her bridges and her Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #73

It will be interesting to see what she DOES do when Bernie endorses Hillary, if OnDoutside Jun 2016 #159

She was our state rep. Doremus Jun 2016 #163

Is there a reason that she is no longer your state rep.? Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #166

No TSIAS Jun 2016 #174

Agree her head will explode. Nina has gone off the rail this election FloridaBlues Jun 2016 #188

She is simply the first to state an observation that undoubtedly many JimDandy Jun 2016 #195

Nina Turner was a Clinton supporter who switched to Bernie. She knows politics, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #219

Truth to bought power. Sounds honest to me. Jackilope Jun 2016 #66

Wow. Did you really describe a woman as bitter and resentful Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #77

What's her role in the campaign? What are her motivations & goals? What does she hope to accomplish? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #99

I'm amazed by the double-standards that float around this website. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #105

Are you trying to change the subject by making veiled accusations that I've said something "sexist"? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #113

"you guys" Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #115

Ha! That tells me all I need to know about you. :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #119

And you think this riposte raises your position? Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #123

It's unclear what you're trying to say. Can you elaborate? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #125

Where I am from in PA , "you guys" refers to a group - either sex apcalc Jun 2016 #203

You're sexist!!!!! NCTraveler Jun 2016 #116

Wait, wait! That's not all ... did you see the follow-up? :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #124

Thank you for this moment of levity. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #128

What double standard? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #152

Not for speaking her mind. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #191

Real anger, aggression, loss of control and shouting are at this awful outburst display. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #250

And that has what to do with Nina being an angry and bitter loud mouth? Lil Missy Jun 2016 #257

What you don't get I'll enumerate. It has everything to do with this thread appalachiablue Jun 2016 #267

you are so exaggerating Clintons reaction and trying to change the subject. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #269

If you don't understand the importance and relevance of how women leaders appalachiablue Jun 2016 #270

Also highly aggressive, vehement and bellicose. Angry and aggressive, another. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #222

Nina's days are over. leftofcool Jun 2016 #2

Because? I think she's just getting started Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #183

I'd happily vote for her to be the first woman president. nt LWolf Jun 2016 #261

She's a jerk. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #3

So instead of attacking Trump, she wants Warren to attack Hillary. Does she even care about winning YouDig Jun 2016 #4

No. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #46

UNDER THE DOUBLE DECKER BUS WITH YOU LIZ! Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #5

The bus needs monster truck wheels at this point metroins Jun 2016 #23

I'm thinking something more like this would be more efficient for the amount of people needing .... boston bean Jun 2016 #31

But they all have to think they are driving it. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #109

who? snooper2 Jun 2016 #6

She isn't a truth teller at this point. She's an irrelevant whiner. boston bean Jun 2016 #7

Turner sees her relevance disappearing quickly, along with her meal ticket. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #8

I disagree with her too, but personal attacks are petty. Also, if she wanted a meal ticket... yurbud Jun 2016 #87

then that would make her a corporate whore. n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #144

if she had gone that route, which she didn't yurbud Jun 2016 #154

Nina Turner peddling some sour, sour grapes there geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10

lol nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #11

Truth telling kcjohn1 Jun 2016 #12

lolz you guys! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #17

Really? For many Sanders supporters, Warren would have been MineralMan Jun 2016 #24

Primaries real eye opening kcjohn1 Jun 2016 #42

Who is Warner? KingFlorez Jun 2016 #25

I Think He Played For The Rams Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #70

Wasn't he married to Elizabeth Taylor? emulatorloo Jun 2016 #107

That doesn't exactly narrow it down much mythology Jun 2016 #134

Rep. senator from VA. Beacool Jun 2016 #164

... emulatorloo Jun 2016 #165

Corp. Dem. Sen. Mark Warner of VA seven years, considered for VP twice already. Wow. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #225

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #69

I hope Warner has little credibility with Sanders supporters. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #114

Warren was reluctant to book passage on the Titanic. Smart move. oasis Jun 2016 #135

Sure took her long enough to board the SS Minnow. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #240

This is absolutely ridiculous KingFlorez Jun 2016 #13

Dear Ms. Turner: Adrahil Jun 2016 #14

That's the problem with Idealogues, anyone who is less than idealogically pure is a traitor. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #55

Turner has been a poor surrogate for Bernie One of the 99 Jun 2016 #15

+1 JoePhilly Jun 2016 #18

Angry?? disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #26

Just an observation One of the 99 Jun 2016 #27

Yes, "the angry black woman"... glowing Jun 2016 #111

Sarandon gets the same treatment, you are way off base. nt oasis Jun 2016 #136

So, it's ok to be sexist and disgusting to a woman if they don't fit your mold? glowing Jun 2016 #138

"Sexism" "bigotry. You insist on making unsubstantiated claims. oasis Jun 2016 #145

Really, "angry woman", "off the rails", "Nina who" glowing Jun 2016 #150

Never said that. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #161

I think the entire post is attacking a strong, progressive Democratic woman glowing Jun 2016 #173

Again, not what I said One of the 99 Jun 2016 #186

I think dismissing my point of view of the entire posting thread glowing Jun 2016 #194

I think attacking me for the opinion of others is wrong. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #251

You are the only one mentioning her color. Trying to twist it into a racial issue. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #209

So she's an angry, arrogant woman? notadmblnd Jun 2016 #216

Sounds like you are. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #252

As far as females go- I can be a mans worst freaking nightmare. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #258

Good for you One of the 99 Jun 2016 #259

Those used to be considered fairly sexist comments. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #241

Why? One of the 99 Jun 2016 #253

playing into a stereotype. I agree with you. I'm just saying, is all. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #262

You were playing into a sterotype not me One of the 99 Jun 2016 #271

Wow, so she wants Warren to attack Hillary and not Trump obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #16

Where did you see this statement in Nina's words? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #34

There is no equivalence in clout between Nina Turner and Elizabeth Warren MineralMan Jun 2016 #19

Possibly so in this election cycle. But there will be many more like her in the cycles to come. So floriduck Jun 2016 #30

Possibly so in this election cycle. But there will be many more like her in the cycles to come. So floriduck Jun 2016 #38

Bernie doesn't seem to be in any hurry to rein her in either. grossproffit Jun 2016 #20

it isn't Bernie's job to rein anyone in, he's doing the right thing now nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #37

That is just not so. He has an absolute responsibility to rein in his campaign staff. boston bean Jun 2016 #44

she's not staff, she's a voluntary supporter geek tragedy Jun 2016 #49

There is no evidence that that was any more than one anonymous staffer. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #60

"Bring her to heel'..you know. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #230

How'd that work out for y'all? grossproffit Jun 2016 #236

Truth.. all points disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #21

Self-fulfilling prophecies are wonderfully validating. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #61

She is correct. Thank God someone has the guts to speak the truth. Skwmom Jun 2016 #28

She's a sore loser lashing out at a liberal giant. sufrommich Jun 2016 #33

Always these trite phases when people speak the truth. Skwmom Jun 2016 #41

"Speak the truth" is itself a trite phrase alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #160

Bingo! Nailed it. redstateblues Jun 2016 #190

THAT'S exactly what it is: passive aggressive! I couldn't put my finger on it. Thanks! AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #244

Thanks for this. peace13 Jun 2016 #39

Agree 100%. MelissaB Jun 2016 #47

Nina who? RandySF Jun 2016 #29

Exaggerate much? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #32

It's no exaggeration,it's pure unadulterated bitterness.nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #35

Thank god you got to use bitter on a woman . peace13 Jun 2016 #45

She sure acts bitter. And why are women immune to being bitter?? Lil Missy Jun 2016 #193

This is hysterical! Six months ago it was deemed that bitter was a sexist term not to be used... peace13 Jun 2016 #197

Got a link? Lil Missy Jun 2016 #207

You appear to be conflating 'truth' and 'simply her opinion.' LanternWaste Jun 2016 #64

Truth is also not what Nina Turner is speaking. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #178

Can someone explain... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #36

No because Everybody Already Crossed the Bridge and Nina is on the Other Side and Can't Swim Stallion Jun 2016 #74

Anyone mad at someone who stayed neutral is bitter, petty, and thinking like Trump. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #40

That's what I said yesterday. FFS, Trump is low-hanging fruit. Who wouldn't attack him? valerief Jun 2016 #43

She's a political cannibal, eating her own for no discernible reason. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #86

Wow. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #117

Tell me; what did Warren do to deserve any attack from Bernie's side? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #127

what did Warren do to deserve any attack from Bernie's side? DJ13 Jun 2016 #210

Actually, I think she is probably correct. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #48

Oh so predictable. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #50

"Nina Turner, bitterly." You could have just stopped there and still been accurate. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #53

She's a half-truth teller BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #54

Turner's gratuitous trashing of Warren after that masterful speech tying Trump to the GOP Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #85

Tout à fait BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #120

Sans équivoque ! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #122

Policy-wise I'm an enthusiastic supporter Beowulf Jun 2016 #56

There are a few Bernie supporters that are less than pleased with her as well Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #72

Obvious? She's saying Bernie was ENTITLED to Warren's endorsement. That's pure bs. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #88

I don't read her that way. Beowulf Jun 2016 #100

The only way you can be angry at neutrality is if you feel they were SUPPOSED to be with you. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #129

She's right, and that is how Sanders' supporters feel. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #57

No Nina is foolish Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #156

I don't think you know what Sanders supporters think. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #200

My dad taught me a valuable lesson... GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #226

A post can be read one of two ways: Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #246

I agree. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #169

This slam simply wasn't necessary. hamsterjill Jun 2016 #58

The is getting to be like the French Revolution.. DCBob Jun 2016 #59

Warren stayed neutral. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #62

Nina, Warren didn't endorse any Democratic candidate for the nomination. No one still_one Jun 2016 #63

Warren wouldn't have swayed any HRC voters to Bernie. That's what Nina ecstatic Jun 2016 #71

I suspect she was torn between Hillary's tenacity and Bernie's stance on some issues... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #78

I think Nina was counting on being Bernie's VP Tarc Jun 2016 #79

Or, his press secretary? Yikes! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #94

What makes her think that Bernie was entitled to Warren's endorsement? nt. Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #81

Warren was/is being strategic, just as Bernie was when he ran as a Dem instead of independent yurbud Jun 2016 #83

Agree. There has to be a strategy. Plan A. Plan B. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #242

Nine Turner: Dead Ender Renew Deal Jun 2016 #89

Did ANYONE in Congress campaign for Sanders? He had one -count it, ONE- Senate endorsement. randome Jun 2016 #92

"Does NOT play well with others..." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #95

Right. Senate "Democrats" roll their eyes at him because he refuses to deal with lobbyists Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #185

Sometimes it's simply how you come across that turns people off. randome Jun 2016 #189

It wasn't Warren's job to prop up Bernie Sanders. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #93

"I’m a truth-teller" One of the 99 Jun 2016 #96

Bitter dead ender workinclasszero Jun 2016 #97

"Former" says it all. People evidently don't care for her. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #98

Senator Warren is going under the bus Gothmog Jun 2016 #101

Meh. Telling someone else who they HAVE to endorse/campaign for. Not cool. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #102

I guess... MrWendel Jun 2016 #104

This shows a great lack of intelligence. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #110

tina "truth teller" must never have researched bernie sanders history...probably wouldn't beachbum bob Jun 2016 #126

I don't get Turner at all. I don't care that she switched from Clinton to Sanders onenote Jun 2016 #130

Nina Turner, the so-called "national treasure" is through. nt oasis Jun 2016 #131

That's very sad, you know? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #132

It's very hard to take Ms. Turner seriously. OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #133

She endorsed in November 2015 TSIAS Jun 2016 #176

Turner attacked Obama yesterday. Not sure what this accomplishes. yardwork Jun 2016 #137

A person who has to declare "I'm a truth-teller" usually isn't. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #139

Nina Turner has a choice... brooklynite Jun 2016 #140

pretty stupid on mrs. turners part. she will end up regretting that n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #141

Nothing bitter said Lazy Daisy Jun 2016 #146

The slam was implying Warren was being weak by not endorsing Bernie, as though she owed it to him. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #153

Why was Liz Warren obligated to campaign for Sanders? Beacool Jun 2016 #167

If you can't walk away for truth, you can't stand for truth. mmonk Jun 2016 #147

Will she bitterly slam Sanders next week too when he endorses HRC? JCMach1 Jun 2016 #148

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Jun 2016 #168

Why would she have campained for Bernie? pandr32 Jun 2016 #151

She's a FORMER State Senator tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #155

Hillary was a FAILED presidential candidate TSIAS Jun 2016 #175

There's a difference between failed presidential candidate tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #181

Turner may be technically right, but Warren likely saw the writing anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #157

Warren remained neutral, why was she obligated to campaign for Sanders? Beacool Jun 2016 #162

Thank you Nina Turner. I couldn't have said it better Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #177

I would support whoever HRC puts on the ticket MFM008 Jun 2016 #179

Nina Turner has passion and is not afraid to speak the truth udbcrzy2 Jun 2016 #182

Nina Turner is still mad Bill Clinton didn't mention her at an Ohio state dinner...Very bitter lady. timlot Jun 2016 #184

Judging from the attitude that has permeated this board today Aerows Jun 2016 #192

Grow up, Nina ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #196

She always seemed way too zealous to take seriously MirrorAshes Jun 2016 #198

Messiah, where? appalachiablue Jun 2016 #231

that gif ... lol Hiraeth Jun 2016 #243

omg Hiraeth Jun 2016 #266

Priceless innit. Wonder if Angela Merkel, Indira Gandhi or Maggie Thatcher appalachiablue Jun 2016 #272

Warren endorsing Bernie would have been a game changer laserhaas Jun 2016 #201

She's right. Kall Jun 2016 #204

Turner is right. Trump-bashing is low-hanging fruit. Easy pickings. nt valerief Jun 2016 #206

Totally Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #208

Some Sanders supporters believe the Sanders base is monolithic Gman Jun 2016 #212

Maybe Warren has always preferred Clinton jaceaf Jun 2016 #213

She sure waited long enough to endorse. Although, I hear she agrees with a lot of HRC's foreign Hiraeth Jun 2016 #239

Warren encouraged Clinton to run. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #254

Nina who? sarae Jun 2016 #217

not really a bitter slam but ymmv aikoaiko Jun 2016 #218

Maybe Senator Warren just didn't think that Bernie had earned her endorsement. StevieM Jun 2016 #221

and It sure took Hillary long enough to earn it. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #245

Warren understands that a united front behind the presumptive nominee is more important than a temp TwilightZone Jun 2016 #255

temp bump = lol Hiraeth Jun 2016 #263

You think endorsements in the primary mean anything to anyone? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #264

odd followup reply. weird question. abort conversation. toodles. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #265

Wow. The level of delusion! What utter bullshit. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #223

So Turner prefers Trump BainsBane Jun 2016 #234

She's right Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #237

Bitterly is a loaded term, senseandsensibility Jun 2016 #238

Go Nina Go!! Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #249

I really like Nina Turner. She doesn't sugar-coat her thoughts. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #260