2016 Postmortem

Beowulf

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56. Policy-wise I'm an enthusiastic supporter

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:21 AM

Jun 2016

Politically, she's been very timid this primary season. Given the circumstances, staying neutral during the primary was just as helpful to Hillary as her endorsement would have been. I think Turner is stating the obvious and the vitriol from Clinton supporters towards her is just one more example of the seething hatred they have for anyone who dared to challenge the self annoyed one.

And Turner is not saying Warren should be attacking Hillary. Get real.

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Nina Turner bitterly slams Elizabeth Warren. [View all] sufrommich Jun 2016 OP

She's very bitter and resentful, isn't she? Feel the unity, Nina ... #FeelTheUnity. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1

#FleeTheBern Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #9

Bwaahaaaa! "#NinaNeedsAJob" Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #68

Just like the rest of us will if New Dems have their way. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #121

What a despicable attack on a true Democratic progressive. Kentonio Jun 2016 #149

#FleeTheBern !!!! Number23 Jun 2016 #199

And she's very accurate, like it or not. floriduck Jun 2016 #22

She is sowing and perpetuating discontent ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #52

! Phlem Jun 2016 #65

Sow greiner3 Jun 2016 #170

I think you meant sew. Phlem Jun 2016 #171

sow is correct-like sowing seeds redstateblues Jun 2016 #187

Math class, English class. . . . Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #247

So easily, you apparently mistook the usage of "sow." So unfortunate. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #273

Maybe so but she was accurately telling it like it is. Not like someone worried about repercussion. floriduck Jun 2016 #67

What does she hope to accomplish? What's her motivation? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #75

She's setting the stage for future election cycles when more and more progressive candidates floriduck Jun 2016 #84

If Trump ever got in Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #118

Oh, the pie in the Sky people versus the DINO - saurs. Whatever works to support ignorance. floriduck Jun 2016 #158

Or...the purists who can't compromise apcalc Jun 2016 #202

She's not "telling it like it is". She says Bernie was ENTITLED to Warren's endorsement, which is bs CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #80

That's a very narrow view of her intentions. She's sending a message to future super delegates if floriduck Jun 2016 #90

That waiting for the race to end isn't ok? Isn't that exactly what Bernie wanted? Get it straight. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #91

Nina seems angry Dem2 Jun 2016 #76

She plays-well to the folks who already supported Bernie, but she added nothing to his campaign ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #82

Worst surrogates ever! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #103

I sure was turned off by her. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #108

Really? The minute I heard her speek…. I was relieved that she was smart, thoughtful and sincere. midnight Jun 2016 #228

I think this applies to ALL of Sanders' surrogates... brooklynite Jun 2016 #142

Sanders supporters aren't like poor Claire McCaskill who couldn't explain appalachiablue Jun 2016 #256

I know Nina Turner and I respect her... brooklynite Jun 2016 #268

An angry, unreasonable black woman. Really, keep going. I want to see how low this gets. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #220

What? Dem2 Jun 2016 #224

That's brilliant, mature too. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #227

You made a ridiculous accusation Dem2 Jun 2016 #229

You made offensive, loaded comments and know it. Shame is yours, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #232

You brought race into this Dem2 Jun 2016 #233

I told you to lose the game flipping. Get help if you can't stop. Later. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #235

Exactly. She needs to see that sowing further division doesn't help anyone..... Sheepshank Jun 2016 #172

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #205

Clearly you are a mind reader. 840high Jun 2016 #214

Baloney Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #106

She is actually wrong. Flat out wrong. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #112

+1 n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #143

I suppose Hillary speaks for Progressives? Ha Ha Ha Awknid Jun 2016 #211

Sure. lol 840high Jun 2016 #215

Hillary never claimed to ha ha ha Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #248

In what way is she accurate? Nina Turner is speaking nonsense. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #180

Poor Nina's head is going to explode when Bernie endorses Hillary !!! OnDoutside Jun 2016 #51

Lock the rabbits up! She's really pissed off because she's berned all of her bridges and her Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #73

It will be interesting to see what she DOES do when Bernie endorses Hillary, if OnDoutside Jun 2016 #159

She was our state rep. Doremus Jun 2016 #163

Is there a reason that she is no longer your state rep.? Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #166

No TSIAS Jun 2016 #174

Agree her head will explode. Nina has gone off the rail this election FloridaBlues Jun 2016 #188

She is simply the first to state an observation that undoubtedly many JimDandy Jun 2016 #195

Nina Turner was a Clinton supporter who switched to Bernie. She knows politics, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #219

Truth to bought power. Sounds honest to me. Jackilope Jun 2016 #66

Wow. Did you really describe a woman as bitter and resentful Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #77

What's her role in the campaign? What are her motivations & goals? What does she hope to accomplish? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #99

I'm amazed by the double-standards that float around this website. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #105

Are you trying to change the subject by making veiled accusations that I've said something "sexist"? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #113

"you guys" Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #115

Ha! That tells me all I need to know about you. :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #119

And you think this riposte raises your position? Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #123

It's unclear what you're trying to say. Can you elaborate? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #125

Where I am from in PA , "you guys" refers to a group - either sex apcalc Jun 2016 #203

You're sexist!!!!! NCTraveler Jun 2016 #116

Wait, wait! That's not all ... did you see the follow-up? :-P NurseJackie Jun 2016 #124

Thank you for this moment of levity. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #128

What double standard? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #152

Not for speaking her mind. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #191

Real anger, aggression, loss of control and shouting are at this awful outburst display. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #250

And that has what to do with Nina being an angry and bitter loud mouth? Lil Missy Jun 2016 #257

What you don't get I'll enumerate. It has everything to do with this thread appalachiablue Jun 2016 #267

you are so exaggerating Clintons reaction and trying to change the subject. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #269

If you don't understand the importance and relevance of how women leaders appalachiablue Jun 2016 #270

Also highly aggressive, vehement and bellicose. Angry and aggressive, another. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #222

Nina's days are over. leftofcool Jun 2016 #2

Because? I think she's just getting started Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #183

I'd happily vote for her to be the first woman president. nt LWolf Jun 2016 #261

She's a jerk. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #3

So instead of attacking Trump, she wants Warren to attack Hillary. Does she even care about winning YouDig Jun 2016 #4

No. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #46

UNDER THE DOUBLE DECKER BUS WITH YOU LIZ! Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #5

The bus needs monster truck wheels at this point metroins Jun 2016 #23

I'm thinking something more like this would be more efficient for the amount of people needing .... boston bean Jun 2016 #31

But they all have to think they are driving it. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #109

who? snooper2 Jun 2016 #6

She isn't a truth teller at this point. She's an irrelevant whiner. boston bean Jun 2016 #7

Turner sees her relevance disappearing quickly, along with her meal ticket. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #8

I disagree with her too, but personal attacks are petty. Also, if she wanted a meal ticket... yurbud Jun 2016 #87

then that would make her a corporate whore. n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #144

if she had gone that route, which she didn't yurbud Jun 2016 #154

Nina Turner peddling some sour, sour grapes there geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10

lol nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #11

Truth telling kcjohn1 Jun 2016 #12

lolz you guys! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #17

Really? For many Sanders supporters, Warren would have been MineralMan Jun 2016 #24

Primaries real eye opening kcjohn1 Jun 2016 #42

Who is Warner? KingFlorez Jun 2016 #25

I Think He Played For The Rams Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #70

Wasn't he married to Elizabeth Taylor? emulatorloo Jun 2016 #107

That doesn't exactly narrow it down much mythology Jun 2016 #134

Rep. senator from VA. Beacool Jun 2016 #164

... emulatorloo Jun 2016 #165

Corp. Dem. Sen. Mark Warner of VA seven years, considered for VP twice already. Wow. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #225

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #69

I hope Warner has little credibility with Sanders supporters. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #114

Warren was reluctant to book passage on the Titanic. Smart move. oasis Jun 2016 #135

Sure took her long enough to board the SS Minnow. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #240

This is absolutely ridiculous KingFlorez Jun 2016 #13

Dear Ms. Turner: Adrahil Jun 2016 #14

That's the problem with Idealogues, anyone who is less than idealogically pure is a traitor. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #55

Turner has been a poor surrogate for Bernie One of the 99 Jun 2016 #15

+1 JoePhilly Jun 2016 #18

Angry?? disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #26

Just an observation One of the 99 Jun 2016 #27

Yes, "the angry black woman"... glowing Jun 2016 #111

Sarandon gets the same treatment, you are way off base. nt oasis Jun 2016 #136

So, it's ok to be sexist and disgusting to a woman if they don't fit your mold? glowing Jun 2016 #138

"Sexism" "bigotry. You insist on making unsubstantiated claims. oasis Jun 2016 #145

Really, "angry woman", "off the rails", "Nina who" glowing Jun 2016 #150

Never said that. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #161

I think the entire post is attacking a strong, progressive Democratic woman glowing Jun 2016 #173

Again, not what I said One of the 99 Jun 2016 #186

I think dismissing my point of view of the entire posting thread glowing Jun 2016 #194

I think attacking me for the opinion of others is wrong. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #251

You are the only one mentioning her color. Trying to twist it into a racial issue. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #209

So she's an angry, arrogant woman? notadmblnd Jun 2016 #216

Sounds like you are. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #252

As far as females go- I can be a mans worst freaking nightmare. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #258

Good for you One of the 99 Jun 2016 #259

Those used to be considered fairly sexist comments. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #241

Why? One of the 99 Jun 2016 #253

playing into a stereotype. I agree with you. I'm just saying, is all. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #262

You were playing into a sterotype not me One of the 99 Jun 2016 #271

Wow, so she wants Warren to attack Hillary and not Trump obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #16

Where did you see this statement in Nina's words? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #34

There is no equivalence in clout between Nina Turner and Elizabeth Warren MineralMan Jun 2016 #19

Possibly so in this election cycle. But there will be many more like her in the cycles to come. So floriduck Jun 2016 #30

Possibly so in this election cycle. But there will be many more like her in the cycles to come. So floriduck Jun 2016 #38

Bernie doesn't seem to be in any hurry to rein her in either. grossproffit Jun 2016 #20

it isn't Bernie's job to rein anyone in, he's doing the right thing now nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #37

That is just not so. He has an absolute responsibility to rein in his campaign staff. boston bean Jun 2016 #44

she's not staff, she's a voluntary supporter geek tragedy Jun 2016 #49

There is no evidence that that was any more than one anonymous staffer. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #60

"Bring her to heel'..you know. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #230

How'd that work out for y'all? grossproffit Jun 2016 #236

Truth.. all points disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #21

Self-fulfilling prophecies are wonderfully validating. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #61

She is correct. Thank God someone has the guts to speak the truth. Skwmom Jun 2016 #28

She's a sore loser lashing out at a liberal giant. sufrommich Jun 2016 #33

Always these trite phases when people speak the truth. Skwmom Jun 2016 #41

"Speak the truth" is itself a trite phrase alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #160

Bingo! Nailed it. redstateblues Jun 2016 #190

THAT'S exactly what it is: passive aggressive! I couldn't put my finger on it. Thanks! AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #244

Thanks for this. peace13 Jun 2016 #39

Agree 100%. MelissaB Jun 2016 #47

Nina who? RandySF Jun 2016 #29

Exaggerate much? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #32

It's no exaggeration,it's pure unadulterated bitterness.nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #35

Thank god you got to use bitter on a woman . peace13 Jun 2016 #45

She sure acts bitter. And why are women immune to being bitter?? Lil Missy Jun 2016 #193

This is hysterical! Six months ago it was deemed that bitter was a sexist term not to be used... peace13 Jun 2016 #197

Got a link? Lil Missy Jun 2016 #207

You appear to be conflating 'truth' and 'simply her opinion.' LanternWaste Jun 2016 #64

Truth is also not what Nina Turner is speaking. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #178

Can someone explain... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #36

No because Everybody Already Crossed the Bridge and Nina is on the Other Side and Can't Swim Stallion Jun 2016 #74

Anyone mad at someone who stayed neutral is bitter, petty, and thinking like Trump. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #40

That's what I said yesterday. FFS, Trump is low-hanging fruit. Who wouldn't attack him? valerief Jun 2016 #43

She's a political cannibal, eating her own for no discernible reason. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #86

Wow. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #117

Tell me; what did Warren do to deserve any attack from Bernie's side? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #127

what did Warren do to deserve any attack from Bernie's side? DJ13 Jun 2016 #210

Actually, I think she is probably correct. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #48

Oh so predictable. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #50

"Nina Turner, bitterly." You could have just stopped there and still been accurate. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #53

She's a half-truth teller BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #54

Turner's gratuitous trashing of Warren after that masterful speech tying Trump to the GOP Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #85

Tout à fait BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #120

Sans équivoque ! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #122

Policy-wise I'm an enthusiastic supporter Beowulf Jun 2016 #56

There are a few Bernie supporters that are less than pleased with her as well Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #72

Obvious? She's saying Bernie was ENTITLED to Warren's endorsement. That's pure bs. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #88

I don't read her that way. Beowulf Jun 2016 #100

The only way you can be angry at neutrality is if you feel they were SUPPOSED to be with you. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #129

She's right, and that is how Sanders' supporters feel. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #57

No Nina is foolish Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #156

I don't think you know what Sanders supporters think. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #200

My dad taught me a valuable lesson... GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #226

A post can be read one of two ways: Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #246

I agree. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #169

This slam simply wasn't necessary. hamsterjill Jun 2016 #58

The is getting to be like the French Revolution.. DCBob Jun 2016 #59

Warren stayed neutral. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #62

Nina, Warren didn't endorse any Democratic candidate for the nomination. No one still_one Jun 2016 #63

Warren wouldn't have swayed any HRC voters to Bernie. That's what Nina ecstatic Jun 2016 #71

I suspect she was torn between Hillary's tenacity and Bernie's stance on some issues... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #78

I think Nina was counting on being Bernie's VP Tarc Jun 2016 #79

Or, his press secretary? Yikes! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #94

What makes her think that Bernie was entitled to Warren's endorsement? nt. Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #81

Warren was/is being strategic, just as Bernie was when he ran as a Dem instead of independent yurbud Jun 2016 #83

Agree. There has to be a strategy. Plan A. Plan B. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #242

Nine Turner: Dead Ender Renew Deal Jun 2016 #89

Did ANYONE in Congress campaign for Sanders? He had one -count it, ONE- Senate endorsement. randome Jun 2016 #92

"Does NOT play well with others..." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #95

Right. Senate "Democrats" roll their eyes at him because he refuses to deal with lobbyists Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #185

Sometimes it's simply how you come across that turns people off. randome Jun 2016 #189

It wasn't Warren's job to prop up Bernie Sanders. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #93

"I’m a truth-teller" One of the 99 Jun 2016 #96

Bitter dead ender workinclasszero Jun 2016 #97

"Former" says it all. People evidently don't care for her. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #98

Senator Warren is going under the bus Gothmog Jun 2016 #101

Meh. Telling someone else who they HAVE to endorse/campaign for. Not cool. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #102

I guess... MrWendel Jun 2016 #104

This shows a great lack of intelligence. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #110

tina "truth teller" must never have researched bernie sanders history...probably wouldn't beachbum bob Jun 2016 #126

I don't get Turner at all. I don't care that she switched from Clinton to Sanders onenote Jun 2016 #130

Nina Turner, the so-called "national treasure" is through. nt oasis Jun 2016 #131

That's very sad, you know? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #132

It's very hard to take Ms. Turner seriously. OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #133

She endorsed in November 2015 TSIAS Jun 2016 #176

Turner attacked Obama yesterday. Not sure what this accomplishes. yardwork Jun 2016 #137

A person who has to declare "I'm a truth-teller" usually isn't. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #139

Nina Turner has a choice... brooklynite Jun 2016 #140

pretty stupid on mrs. turners part. she will end up regretting that n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #141

Nothing bitter said Lazy Daisy Jun 2016 #146

The slam was implying Warren was being weak by not endorsing Bernie, as though she owed it to him. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #153

Why was Liz Warren obligated to campaign for Sanders? Beacool Jun 2016 #167

If you can't walk away for truth, you can't stand for truth. mmonk Jun 2016 #147

Will she bitterly slam Sanders next week too when he endorses HRC? JCMach1 Jun 2016 #148

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Jun 2016 #168

Why would she have campained for Bernie? pandr32 Jun 2016 #151

She's a FORMER State Senator tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #155

Hillary was a FAILED presidential candidate TSIAS Jun 2016 #175

There's a difference between failed presidential candidate tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #181

Turner may be technically right, but Warren likely saw the writing anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #157

Warren remained neutral, why was she obligated to campaign for Sanders? Beacool Jun 2016 #162

Thank you Nina Turner. I couldn't have said it better Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #177

I would support whoever HRC puts on the ticket MFM008 Jun 2016 #179

Nina Turner has passion and is not afraid to speak the truth udbcrzy2 Jun 2016 #182

Nina Turner is still mad Bill Clinton didn't mention her at an Ohio state dinner...Very bitter lady. timlot Jun 2016 #184

Judging from the attitude that has permeated this board today Aerows Jun 2016 #192

Grow up, Nina ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #196

She always seemed way too zealous to take seriously MirrorAshes Jun 2016 #198

Messiah, where? appalachiablue Jun 2016 #231

that gif ... lol Hiraeth Jun 2016 #243

omg Hiraeth Jun 2016 #266

Priceless innit. Wonder if Angela Merkel, Indira Gandhi or Maggie Thatcher appalachiablue Jun 2016 #272

Warren endorsing Bernie would have been a game changer laserhaas Jun 2016 #201

She's right. Kall Jun 2016 #204

Turner is right. Trump-bashing is low-hanging fruit. Easy pickings. nt valerief Jun 2016 #206

Totally Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #208

Some Sanders supporters believe the Sanders base is monolithic Gman Jun 2016 #212

Maybe Warren has always preferred Clinton jaceaf Jun 2016 #213

She sure waited long enough to endorse. Although, I hear she agrees with a lot of HRC's foreign Hiraeth Jun 2016 #239

Warren encouraged Clinton to run. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #254

Nina who? sarae Jun 2016 #217

not really a bitter slam but ymmv aikoaiko Jun 2016 #218

Maybe Senator Warren just didn't think that Bernie had earned her endorsement. StevieM Jun 2016 #221

and It sure took Hillary long enough to earn it. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #245

Warren understands that a united front behind the presumptive nominee is more important than a temp TwilightZone Jun 2016 #255

temp bump = lol Hiraeth Jun 2016 #263

You think endorsements in the primary mean anything to anyone? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #264

odd followup reply. weird question. abort conversation. toodles. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #265

Wow. The level of delusion! What utter bullshit. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #223

So Turner prefers Trump BainsBane Jun 2016 #234

She's right Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #237

Bitterly is a loaded term, senseandsensibility Jun 2016 #238

Go Nina Go!! Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #249

I really like Nina Turner. She doesn't sugar-coat her thoughts. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #260