2016 Postmortem

One of the 99

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Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:19 AM

Jun 2016

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The problem is the Worldview of the Democratic Establishment and its members [View all] Armstead Jun 2016 OP

I'm perfectly *content* with her. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1

Posts like this are not going to disappear, unless Skinner clamps down more than usual Armstead Jun 2016 #2

... and Bernie might still win. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #3

Yeah, I'm kind of curious about that myself............ socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #21

He will clamp down on them as this is Democratic underground in an election year. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #65

We have our nominee ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #85

They think they are so clever. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #98

Of course you are. Chan790 Jun 2016 #4

Oh dear ... That's very amusing! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #13

Tick tock versus drip drop. panader0 Jun 2016 #77

In your imagination only. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #82

Thanks for kicking this fine OP. panader0 Jun 2016 #84

It hadn't dropped very far to begin with ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #87

Posting negative articles about Clinton Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #108

This is an article about a mind set that is very popular in the Democratic Party. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #111

Tick tock? DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #104

Come Thursday ... GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #121

"Progressives" lost for a generation... CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #5

He furthered that GOP/Reagan Worldview Armstead Jun 2016 #6

You miss the point. None of that could happen when Dems couldn't sniff the White House. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #8

I disagree Armstead Jun 2016 #17

Before him, the only Dem to win in six elections was Carter over someone never elected. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #20

Times change Armstead Jun 2016 #23

Yes, times change. Going the Clinton/Obama way has won five of the last six popular votes. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #25

Conservative Corporate is not the same as moderate Armstead Jun 2016 #26

Then Bush and the CIA torpedoed him with the Iranian hostage crisis. Octafish Jun 2016 #27

You are wrong Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #39

Clinton could have led the country to the left if he had chosen to Armstead Jun 2016 #44

He could not do any such thing. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #58

People were not clamoring for shit like NAFTA..Clinton enthusiastically pushed it Armstead Jun 2016 #59

That was actually a Bush idea that Clinton adopted Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #107

Global trade is not the same as the Corporate "free trade" agenda Armstead Jun 2016 #119

What a pant load AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #80

You should do some reading of the 92 election Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #101

I actually agree with you on the mind-set of the electorate ........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #28

Still believing trickle down? Didn't Obama raise the highest tax bracket? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #34

How much of a raise? And where are those tax receipts going....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #48

Theory disproven, you go back to 'it wasn't good enough'. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #54

If you think these guys are going to give up......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #73

That is oft-repeated anti-liberal mythology. merrily Jun 2016 #76

You're not disproving that from 1970-1992 no Democrat won except Carter. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #91

Aside from mythology, your statistic does not say a thing about liberals. merrily Jun 2016 #93

I'm saying if the country wanted it, someone you find progressive would have run and won. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #95

I don't agree. Among many other things, Democratic voters have bought the mythology merrily Jun 2016 #99

1. Bernie didn't win. 2. You say indies are the biggest group now, and they aren't that far left. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #100

There were so many other factors with Bernie. Um, I didn't say a thing about Indies, but merrily Jun 2016 #110

You said America is a liberal nation. If it is, the liberal should have won. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #113

False.. However, I just edited my Reply 110. If America were not liberal, merrily Jun 2016 #114

What's false about it? The liberal in a liberal party in a liberal nation didn't win. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #115

and what a great thing that was for the United States... choie Jun 2016 #129

We're better in every f'n way than when the Republicans were in charge. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #130

That's quite the high bar you got there... choie Jun 2016 #131

Listening to some of you, I'd think you were Republicans. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #132

That's really rich choie Jun 2016 #134

When all you do is complain about everything Dems do, it sounds a lot like a Republican. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #135

I'm not a blind follower choie Jun 2016 #140

Very well said. n/t ms liberty Jun 2016 #7

Sure, blame the world on the Democratic Party and ignore Republicans. randome Jun 2016 #9

Why do they ALWAYS blame the democratic party? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #15

I wish it were that simple Armstead Jun 2016 #18

It's more like NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #36

It is that simple Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #46

This is a simplistic and wrongheaded worldview that should be rejected out of hand. Chan790 Jun 2016 #62

Not ignoring problems. The GOP are the worst problem. But the Democrats have not been the solution. Armstead Jun 2016 #16

Politics abhors a gadfly. (Which, btw, is why Sanders has made so little progress.) randome Jun 2016 #19

Reagan was a major gadfly, and he won and won again and pushed the country in his direction Armstead Jun 2016 #24

Reagan wasn't as much of a gadfly as you might think. randome Jun 2016 #33

Reagan took the role of gadfly....and to some Republicans he was. Clinton was too. Armstead Jun 2016 #61

Reagan was much more of a political force in California in the '60s....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #74

And that 40% that Sanders got in the Democratic Primary races......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #42

Excellent post! Melissa G Jun 2016 #30

I like that phrase "panoramic vision" Armstead Jun 2016 #32

I have never seen a more damningly-accurate summation of the post-WJC Democratic party. n/t Chan790 Jun 2016 #64

"They control the reins of power in the House and Senate." Chan790 Jun 2016 #60

More equitable world view compared to what? The Republicans? that's like trying to hurdle Exilednight Jun 2016 #112

Excellent post. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #10

Kick rec Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #11

Kicked and recced. The neoliberalism takeover by New Democrats is complete Arazi Jun 2016 #12

K&R.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #14

That's the power of TC's strawman. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #79

Who or what is TC?? disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #81

Thread Creator -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #83

So you respond to me.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #89

You nailed it. bunnies Jun 2016 #22

The DLC hasn't existed for years. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #29

Read up -- They have morphed into another group with the same aims.... Armstead Jun 2016 #35

Yes One of the 99 Jun 2016 #38

It could be that that particular worldview threatens the middle class and the health of the planet. Melissa G Jun 2016 #49

Or maybe you just don't like that not everyone agrees with you nt One of the 99 Jun 2016 #51

Is that actually your response? Melissa G Jun 2016 #55

Your posts One of the 99 Jun 2016 #71

Ah.. more lack of facts or links Melissa G Jun 2016 #86

Don't need facts or links One of the 99 Jun 2016 #88

Your assertion Melissa G Jun 2016 #109

Yes they are One of the 99 Jun 2016 #122

LOL!!! Melissa G Jun 2016 #125

No what's sad is One of the 99 Jun 2016 #133

Thank you for your concern and case and point Melissa G Jun 2016 #136

Better than One of the 99 Jun 2016 #137

You are never bothered by someone with a "different worldview"? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #66

So your saying that ISIS and the defunct DLC are the same? One of the 99 Jun 2016 #70

Do members of ACORN now make up the powerful and leadership or is that a strawman you are erecting? TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #116

No strawman at all One of the 99 Jun 2016 #123

Which member of ACORN is the presumptive nominee for a major party? TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #138

None One of the 99 Jun 2016 #139

No former DLC members hold those positions? BULLSHIT. TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #142

The key word being former One of the 99 Jun 2016 #143

so you say Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #47

You're just parroting the same nonsense that has been repeated endlessly Armstead Jun 2016 #52

Actually it does Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #57

+1 DCBob Jun 2016 #68

When there is no election it gets ignored. We have to "keep our powder dry" endlessly. Armstead Jun 2016 #97

Point of order Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #117

Point of order....It doesn't matter Armstead Jun 2016 #118

That is so delusional One of the 99 Jun 2016 #124

Democrats fight fair Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #126

Great points One of the 99 Jun 2016 #141

Well said One of the 99 Jun 2016 #72

+100 Duval Jun 2016 #90

The DLC as an organizational name has not existed for years Melissa G Jun 2016 #41

FAUX news hosts One of the 99 Jun 2016 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Melissa G Jun 2016 #45

Says you upaloopa Jun 2016 #31

Whatever...This is a discussion board and we all share our views Armstead Jun 2016 #37

Lofty talk and so much purity Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #50

Purity....another useless meaningless meme Armstead Jun 2016 #53

Damn right it is useless Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #56

tick tock.. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #40

I am sure that the Dems are always at fault Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #63

Not Democrats... Chan790 Jun 2016 #67

If you put as much effort into attacking Republicans as you do attacking Democrats.. DCBob Jun 2016 #69

I don't believe in echo chanmbers Armstead Jun 2016 #94

Clearly there is no echo chamber here.. DCBob Jun 2016 #103

Unity yes. Monolithic blind support of everything, no Armstead Jun 2016 #105

Bernie lost.. Hillary is our nominee. DCBob Jun 2016 #106

I stand by above post Armstead Jun 2016 #120

This is similar to what Thomas Frank discusses in his recent book "Listen, Liberal" m-lekktor Jun 2016 #75

Great summarization, Armstead. Duval Jun 2016 #78

Very well put. It's not that Clinton is "evil," like in the overwrought responses to her. villager Jun 2016 #92

Nothing wrong with the vast majority of large corporations. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #96

It's not when they behave that's the problem Armstead Jun 2016 #102

Excellent OP dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #127

yes 840high Jun 2016 #128