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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Before the big clampdown, I'm gonna say this [View all]Avalux
(35,015 posts)198. Very well said. It's a nuanced and sensitive topic to tackle.
Bringing such things up is like walking into a lion's den so thank you. Divide and conquer is the name of the game regardless of party; even if that division is portrayed as righteousness.
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The Third Way has elevated Sophie's Choice into a wildly profitable form of artfulness. n/t
djean111
Jun 2016
#3
Thanks! I have been saying that the Third Way gives us Sophie's Choice for quite a while.
djean111
Jun 2016
#230
Yet never has this idea been seized upon as voraciously by "minority" voters, pitting them against
highprincipleswork
Jun 2016
#30
The Third Way, as a matter of fact, considers EVERYBODY is equal - we will ALL be victims
djean111
Jun 2016
#104
The OIG's report refutes a litany of her lies about the facts of the case.
AtomicKitten
Jun 2016
#26
Why would you describe your personal opinion as a preview of a report you know nothing about?
Kentonio
Jun 2016
#218
What part of 2 years after leaving office and under pressure do you not understand?
Rilgin
Jun 2016
#189
Lol. She started sorting years after leaving office. See post on what Report said about it(NT)
Rilgin
Jun 2016
#192
The report said "At a minimum" she was required to archive her emails when leaving office
Rilgin
Jun 2016
#191
I suspect its a common issue among high level officials to not always provide a complete archive..
DCBob
Jun 2016
#193
Actually, I suspect most public officials like most lawyers follow the systems put in place
Rilgin
Jun 2016
#199
Not all problems are criminal.Perhaps its not being rewarded with the highest office in the Country.
Rilgin
Jun 2016
#245
The way his trip to Italy is treated as a non-issue is a thing to behold....
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#63
Ain't THAT the damn truth! 60K to hang out in the lobby and "discuss" POVERTY with the pope
Number23
Jun 2016
#224
Agreed, but most of the problem stemmed from the fact that there was little of substance to actually
eastwestdem
Jun 2016
#207
Yes, I remember when Hillary chained herself to the post in Congress as a Senator...
Armstead
Jun 2016
#208
What about all the people who voted for her because they preferred her positions?
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#18
Hillary hate has always been based on gender. It came from men who could not deal with a strong
upaloopa
Jun 2016
#29
I have never met any Bernie supporter who didn't strongly support Elizabeth Warren
virtualobserver
Jun 2016
#53
Is it impossible for you to wrap your head around, we don't like her policies?
Fuddnik
Jun 2016
#157
Discussing race and gender and the effects they have on how one perceives situations
ismnotwasm
Jun 2016
#114
+1, Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 2 mil votes
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#243
Life is in session, Armstead, and there really is a difference between the parties
BeyondGeography
Jun 2016
#10
Believe is the operative word for everyone here and elsewhere regardless of their opinion
Armstead
Jun 2016
#234
Well we feel the same about you and yours. My guess is the months and years of other interests will
upaloopa
Jun 2016
#23
No, it is having a focus on economic justice at all that is the problem as far as I can see
TheKentuckian
Jun 2016
#40
The point is that Bernie folks had to be taught the lesson you just described.
upaloopa
Jun 2016
#20
That phony characterization was started long before the first primary was held
Armstead
Jun 2016
#70
they really can't fob this sort of rhetoric outside of Jezebel/Medium/college commons
MisterP
Jun 2016
#203
It's also a general philosophical disagreement about whether the system is broken or not
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#42
He was focused on bringing out an issue that the Democrats have ignored since....
Armstead
Jun 2016
#79
He did NOT call abortion rights a distraction.That was Rachel Maddow's disingenuous framing of his
myrna minx
Jun 2016
#200
You think what you posted supports the position did not consider abortion a distraction?
Demsrule86
Jun 2016
#237
But it was initially seperated. And those who pointed it out were attacked and accused of working
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#76
It's not "sensitivity" to notice the most common sexist/ racist trope- the concept that some should
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#95
You'd actually benefit from reading up about sexist tropes because you've treated us all to quite a
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#197
"The practical side of life for everyone"= human rights are not practical. okay then.
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#56
No one is saying that, and if you insist on believing it, then we have nothing to say to each other
Armstead
Jun 2016
#65
If you don't get how this "practical" shit is fucking insulting then you've learned nothing...
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#69
If you don't get that I am not saying it is eitehr/or then you've learned nothing
Armstead
Jun 2016
#92
It's ridiculous to say that Hillary and her supporters don't want to address economic justice.
YouDig
Jun 2016
#59
I don't know about the posts here saying that. I didn't make them, and haven't really seen them.
YouDig
Jun 2016
#99
You miss the point-there are valid reasons for African Americans and others to not support Sanders
Gothmog
Jun 2016
#94
Social justice concerns are not the reason why Sanders failed to attract key groups in the base
Gothmog
Jun 2016
#141
Shit-stirrer WillyT set up the false dichotomy of economic v social issues. With tons of recs
emulatorloo
Jun 2016
#102
Trust me, my post is not about WillyT, it is about those who validated and amplified his message
emulatorloo
Jun 2016
#116
Just going by past history of DU's primary mode to GE mode transition. I hope you hang around to
emulatorloo
Jun 2016
#161
No, your team owns that. And has doubled down on it at every opportunity this election cycle.
stranger81
Jun 2016
#168
I wrote "I do recognize that at some point unscrupulous HRC posters did run
emulatorloo
Jun 2016
#172
+ a million, loo. I went through the rec list of WillyT's posts and blocked people from the AA forum
Number23
Jun 2016
#225
More important for Hillary to prove she's progressive than for voters to prove they are not sexist.
ancianita
Jun 2016
#106
I have no need to prove the latter...and I doubt she can convince me of the former.
Lizzie Poppet
Jun 2016
#113
Binary thinking is not a virtue. It was a weakness, and one of the factors that ...
NurseJackie
Jun 2016
#126
Accusations of sexism was a far better tact that having to talk "policy".
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#132
The same people used all the same tactics to dismiss LGBT activists until recently
DemocraticWing
Jun 2016
#137
Abortion and women's rights, gay rights, civil rights and immigration are 'wedge issues'
felix_numinous
Jun 2016
#140
This primary tried to accomplish the full and complete discrediting of actual progressive ideas.
arcane1
Jun 2016
#153
This party has mistreated the independent voters. They are expected to fall in line or get zip.
floriduck
Jun 2016
#154
the last day and you come up with a crappy OP like THIS......you can do better.
stonecutter357
Jun 2016
#173
"One can not be an Economic Progressive Populist without also being racist and sexist?"
jack_krass
Jun 2016
#186
The saddest thing for me was seeing that 'attack your opponent on their strengths'
Kentonio
Jun 2016
#222
tl;dr 'my issues are more important than everyone else's because I think so'
anigbrowl
Jun 2016
#241