2016 Postmortem

deathrind

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128. He really had no choice.

Reply to politicaljunkie41910 (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:07 PM

Jul 2016

But to go Dem in order to run for President. He probably would have run as and Independent had the playing field been level but it is not. Anyone who takes the time to inform themselves on why he did this will find that both republicans and democrats have worked diligently over the years to make it virtually impossible to run for president as anything other than an R or D. Access to voter databases, campaign financing, media exposure / debates etc is very difficult do as a third party. There is a reason we do not see third party candidates in elections... Republicans and Democrats have been very effective at making sure our two party system remains a two party system.

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Bernie just told Wolf Blitzer that he is an Independent and will be an Independent for the remainder [View all] politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 OP

it's very disgusting to hear bs talk like that. MariaThinks Jul 2016 #1

Why? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #129

Oh. Okay. Well what was his excuse decades ago? Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #134

Did he leave the Democratic party decades ago? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #135

Was he a Democrat years ago? Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #159

Yes it has shifted right AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #160

Well thank you at least, for that. Have a pleasant evening. nt Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #161

Good for him! deathrind Jul 2016 #2

Yeah, good for him that he used the Democratic Party whenit suited him and now that he lunamagica Jul 2016 #8

He votes with Dems on most issues. MH1 Jul 2016 #38

So have some Republicans. That don't make them Democrats. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #42

i bet you can't name one single repub who votes with dems on most issues OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #47

any socialist would vote more often with Dems than Reps Sheepshank Jul 2016 #62

I knew he was an independent before he ran as a dem OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #67

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liberal and left is more important to me than D. OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #71

and the 10% or less far left speaks for the entire nation? Sheepshank Jul 2016 #74

obviously they do not OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #75

There is no 'far left' in the Democratic party AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #148

And the truth matters more to me than either. nt nolawarlock Jul 2016 #122

Bernie supporters make up your mind DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #132

find one single post where I ever castigated you, OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #139

first of all, not you particularly DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #141

OK well OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #145

What a really fucked-up talking point that is, and very depressing that it's become so popular on DU yodermon Jul 2016 #66

This choir will not get it but thanks for trying. floriduck Jul 2016 #78

Well the broccolization of DU is complete. yodermon Jul 2016 #104

.+1 840high Jul 2016 #114

He would not have gotten access to the DNC voter database, LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #97

not to mention getting Hillary Pac money in 2006. I think we know who benefits most between DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #133

Dems have used him when it suits them too Doremus Jul 2016 #76

You're right. Maybe I don't belong here anymore. buddysmellgood Jul 2016 #87

... deathrind Jul 2016 #108

But now all he does is bash Democrats lunamagica Jul 2016 #111

I believe the phrase you were looking for is bonemachine Jul 2016 #126

He bashes Dino-ism.. He is a DEFTN lostnfound Jul 2016 #127

So an independent is making demands about the Democratic Party platform. kstewart33 Jul 2016 #121

No, he is on the committee AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #150

And all we got were these lousy new demographics of progressives and youth... Orsino Jul 2016 #142

+1. Dawgs Jul 2016 #23

meh, he ran for the Senate as an I so might as well leave it as an I on his Senate door nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #3

He has already filed as an Independent for 2018 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #4

Wherein I will support the Democratic challenger. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #52

Yes, a few will not rest until they have their revenge. n/t Orsino Jul 2016 #143

How silly. They will vote for the candidate they like better, it just won't be Sanders. SharonClark Jul 2016 #154

Yes. They'll support a Republican declaring themselves as a Democrat. And they'll lose. (nt) w4rma Jul 2016 #155

It's not about revenge....it's about a pragmatic choice of who will support msanthrope Jul 2016 #158

Link? NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #105

His most recent amended filing LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #113

Maybe he filled out the form to reflect Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #118

Perhaps; but that is speculation. The document is the official position, filed 6 months after LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #120

Good for Bernie casperthegm Jul 2016 #5

Kinda self-serving baloney, isn't it? stopbush Jul 2016 #14

Nope casperthegm Jul 2016 #22

I've been a D since 1972, and I have to say that I have never been as pleased stopbush Jul 2016 #60

+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #29

It is. They 840high Jul 2016 #115

Well I'll be damned. Is he thinking straight? He basically admitted he used the party . . . brush Jul 2016 #6

And just like that, the truth is laid bare frazzled Jul 2016 #7

What's wrong with having political opinions? One has to be a member of a party to speak their mind? arcane1 Jul 2016 #10

Nothing wrong with having opinions frazzled Jul 2016 #15

"goodbye" LOL arcane1 Jul 2016 #18

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who is "they" on this board? Sheepshank Jul 2016 #65

Closed system bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #16

someone walking by on the street who came in 2nd place, you mean. arcane1 Jul 2016 #19

Someone who is not a Democrat bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #41

"Party Over Principles" is a morally bankrupt philosophy n/t arcane1 Jul 2016 #49

If only bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #63

judgemental much? Sheepshank Jul 2016 #68

That's not how the Democratic Party has it set up. David__77 Jul 2016 #59

Free speech? stopbush Jul 2016 #21

Since when are progressive ideals defined by agreement with Bernie Sanders? -nt- Lord Magus Jul 2016 #35

They're not n/t arcane1 Jul 2016 #51

+1. Hortensis Jul 2016 #82

Oh, the drama. Squinch Jul 2016 #131

oh fetch the FUCKING smelling salts. He's been an indy his whole career. yodermon Jul 2016 #69

Right. He's always held Democrats in Hortensis Jul 2016 #83

"I am a Democrat now" frazzled Jul 2016 #94

Real Democrats were right to be skeptical of his "conversion." LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #100

Bernie Sanders 'not trustworthy' ? HA. John Poet Jul 2016 #163

like so many on DU have already said... chillfactor Jul 2016 #9

It's a shame he didn't run as an Independent. Vinca Jul 2016 #12

I don't care that he's an Independent Blue_Adept Jul 2016 #11

Well said. Hortensis Jul 2016 #84

People support policies and platforms more than personalities (well, at least they should, silvershadow Jul 2016 #13

Sour grapes? It seems to me, Bernie could end any discord. Adrahil Jul 2016 #37

Party politics only matter to die-hard partisans. Apparently that lesson was lost to history? silvershadow Jul 2016 #44

Bernie may make history as being the only Independent MineralMan Jul 2016 #17

When you make a mistake, as we all invariably do... teamster633 Jul 2016 #25

Politics, like it or not, is a team sport. MineralMan Jul 2016 #26

Exactly. teamster633 Jul 2016 #33

Oh, I feel sure we are the better for Sanders' Hortensis Jul 2016 #91

I assume the people objecting to his staying Independant as a Senator would have preferred that he Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #20

^^^THIS^^^ NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #140

I've always wondered how Sanders would handle... Orsino Jul 2016 #144

"I ran as Independent..." So he's an independent. George Eliot Jul 2016 #24

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Sick? Stop the emotion. Let it go. Stop talking Bernie. George Eliot Jul 2016 #30

He says what he means, except when he doesn't. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #31

Became dem to run. Labels important I guess... George Eliot Jul 2016 #45

Not surprising he said this. SummerSnow Jul 2016 #28

Anybody that thinks BS ran as a Democrat for any other giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #32

I hope we can finally stop hearing the "Bernie is a Democrat" nonsense MaggieD Jul 2016 #34

I think you guys are making it tougher for those Democrats who are against voting Cal33 Jul 2016 #46

Anyone who would refuse to vote for Clinton based on online comments LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #53

I disagree MaggieD Jul 2016 #55

ha ha haaa. He's been indy his whole life. He did us a FAVOR by not running as an Indy yodermon Jul 2016 #73

Not how I see it MaggieD Jul 2016 #77

Nader ran as an independent in a general election. bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #86

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Enrich himself? Really? bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #93

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You accused Sanders of theft. That is a crime. bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #99

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Tha's a load of crap similar to the bashing of the Clintons over the Foundation stuff, it's bashing Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #106

You asked MaggieD Jul 2016 #107

how about a free trip to the vatican. not to mention all of that coverage DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #136

A trip to the Vatican could be culturally enriching, I suppose bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #138

spiritually enriching yes DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #146

Sanders made her work for it. bklyncowgirl Jul 2016 #153

Which once again reinforces my decision to vote as I did. NT Adrahil Jul 2016 #39

My union steward was required to represent non-union employees oasis Jul 2016 #40

As I suspected... Bernie is no Democrat.. never was.. never will be. DCBob Jul 2016 #43

Ew. I feel so used, Bernie. You said we had a real relationship--turns out you were just canoodling Hekate Jul 2016 #48

Wow Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #50

Kick him out of all committees cosmicone Jul 2016 #54

That question should have been asked when he declared his candidacy... SidDithers Jul 2016 #56

He punked the Democratic party good. JTFrog Jul 2016 #57

He was elected as an Independent. What's the problem? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #58

The problem is he claimed to be a Democrat for the last year while running for the Dem nomination. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #92

I asked the Administrators.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #61

Chill, factor. floriduck Jul 2016 #80

You got your answer. w4rma Jul 2016 #157

So how many here passed judgment without even bothers NWCorona Jul 2016 #64

Today's show is now on the CNN website if you want to check it out. politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 #90

He ran in the Democratic primary for resources KingFlorez Jul 2016 #72

Here's video of the interview. madamesilverspurs Jul 2016 #79

Great RandySF Jul 2016 #81

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #85

So? Triana Jul 2016 #88

Agreed eom benny05 Jul 2016 #102

yep +10 840high Jul 2016 #116

Interesting, what is next? Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #95

I can't see how he would expect a role at the convention at this point. Nor any further serious LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #98

He was never a Democrat, all he wanted was the resources of the Democratic Party liberal N proud Jul 2016 #103

As I say, fascinating. We all knew this as we got in trouble saying it out loud. Scolded even, Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #109

yeah. See my post about Sanders fans making up their mind DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #137

Well then, we don't need an Independent... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #110

Okay, so is he lying now, or when he claimed the same thing about being a Dem? synergie Jul 2016 #112

Sanders has never in his life been a Democrat, and a lot of use were suspended The Second Stone Jul 2016 #117

Good for him. We need more free thinking independents. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #119

Bernie Sanders clearly stated... TeeYiYi Jul 2016 #123

Cool. bigwillq Jul 2016 #124

So can we stop treating him as a democrat Whimsey Jul 2016 #125

He really had no choice. deathrind Jul 2016 #128

Sure he did; he could have meant it, instead of claiming it for political expedience LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #130

He can be whatever he sees fit. But then why the obsession of changing the platform robbedvoter Jul 2016 #147

hmm? Night Watchman Jul 2016 #149

Bernie Sanders says he ran as Democrat for the media attention workinclasszero Jul 2016 #151

Also, on March 5th, Tad Devine declared on MSNBC that he is not running for robbedvoter Jul 2016 #152

I love that Bernie defies convention in this way. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #156

I really don't care what he is as long as he endorses Hillary and gets out there to help defeat DT!! glennward Jul 2016 #162