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calimary

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6. Neither will I!
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 03:54 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:00 PM - Edit history (1)

I've stated elsewhere that, being a fan of Hillary Clinton's since I first started learning about her during Campaign 1992, she had me at "well I guess I could have just stayed home and baked cookies." I heard that and it was utterly electrifying! I knew right then: THAT gal's for ME! Hell, she freakin' IS me!

Hillary's ultimate and unforgivable crime is that she is an uppity woman. She had, and still has, the nerve to be an uppity woman. From way back when not many women were that assertive in the public arena. The main role for a woman in politics was to be the WIFE of someone in politics. It was seriously unusual and quite improbable that you were a player, yourself. She does not "know her proper place." Actually, she does. And it ain't staying home and being meek and mute, and baking cookies!

Hey, for some women, that's enough. For some women, that's what they aspire toward, and what they hope to be. That's THE goal. And that's FINE! To quote Seinfeld: "not that there's anything wrong with that." No one condemns that. But should that be the unchangeable blanket absolute for all women? Should that be our only available option, as women? Some women feel driven or compelled or inspired to do MORE. And do it in the public arena, on the front lines, center stage, fully exposed and in the spotlight she doesn't merely share with her husband because it's actually HIS spotlight. Some women want to stick their necks out and try to affect positive change for the greater good. Not all of 'em, but some of 'em definitely do. And why should they be held back?

Why, indeed, should they be held back, if they're capable of contributing more, and willing to take the risk, and willing to put themselves up for public scrutiny and take some real responsibility and become active participants? Become players? That's what's always bothered me about the Catholic Church. Women are held back, simply because of their gender. And in an era where one of the biggest problems in the public service of the Church, and there's still such a shortage of priests, WHY more than 50% of the available talent pool is locked out - simply BECAUSE they're not men? I've known women of faith who are ten times the leaders (and faith-leaders) of the men to whom they're subservient.

When Donald Trump says Hillary doesn't look Presidential because she doesn't have a Presidential look, we all know what he's really saying. It's because she doesn't have a dick. But then again he "trumps" her there because he not only HAS a dick, but he IS one.

It is her sex, plain and simple. She is a woman, she can't be strong, she has PMS. redstatebluegirl Sep 2016 #1
and yet, when this blatant sexism and misogyny is pointed out, the instantaneous denial and niyad Sep 2016 #2
Me neither! I am tired of being a good girl and keep my peace. redstatebluegirl Sep 2016 #3
alas, I have been neither a good girl, nor quiet!! niyad Sep 2016 #20
Neither will I! calimary Sep 2016 #6
I don't have to add anything Skidmore Sep 2016 #15
in one of my favourite novels, set in victorian england, the woman protagonist has--gasp!!! "gone niyad Sep 2016 #22
What book is that? Thanks n/t madisongrace Sep 2016 #25
I will have to look it up--have read about 70 of this author's books, so will take a minute. niyad Sep 2016 #30
sorry it took so long. the book is "the river knows" by amanda quick, who also writes niyad Sep 2016 #45
you laid it out perfectly. would you please post this as its own OP, for greater visibility, and so niyad Sep 2016 #21
Here: calimary Sep 2016 #33
This should be an OP DemonGoddess Sep 2016 #41
It IS! calimary Sep 2016 #44
And the caution she shas evolved to deal with the sexism also counts against her. Orsino Sep 2016 #46
Years of right wing propaganda and a failed American media Buzz cook Sep 2016 #4
+1, Woman tax... not pointed out enough for me uponit7771 Sep 2016 #5
and just look at the vehement, almost screaming denial, when it IS pointed out, and women are blamed niyad Sep 2016 #23
While I don't disagree that it is much harder for a woman than it is for a man, Stonepounder Sep 2016 #7
There will come a day when 'Corporate Ideology' is studied as an archaic error of the past. byronius Sep 2016 #12
If we manage to hang on that long. Stonepounder Sep 2016 #14
6. The left hates moderate Democrats. nm mr_liberal Sep 2016 #13
excellent post NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #17
she is being held accountable for Bill's messes. rivegauche Sep 2016 #8
boy howdy. mopinko Sep 2016 #9
This has become clear as an #$% bell. byronius Sep 2016 #10
I think a lot of it is from Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #11
dullards and half-wits are mad because she's a woman who doesn't bake cookies. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #16
I'm sure she does bake cookies DFW Sep 2016 #19
She's a woman stage left Sep 2016 #18
. . . . niyad Sep 2016 #24
the sexism merges with the democratic/republican double-standard. unblock Sep 2016 #26
an excellent response. I remember the criticism that gore was "too intellectual, too brainy", as niyad Sep 2016 #34
because trump is smart, ok. he's very smart. probably the smartest person ever. unblock Sep 2016 #38
yes, of course. how utterly remiss of me to forget his overwhelming intelligence. niyad Sep 2016 #39
Spot on - same dynamic for BHO Cosmocat Sep 2016 #40
Thank you for this thread! This is such an interesing, enlightening Pathwalker Sep 2016 #27
you are most welcome. it is my pleasure. niyad Sep 2016 #31
The republicans are so afraid of having a female president, because if we have demigoddess Sep 2016 #28
Sadly, never truer words. K&R AgadorSparticus Sep 2016 #29
. . . niyad Sep 2016 #32
. . . niyad Sep 2016 #35
Hillary's experience this election has given me an education... LAS14 Sep 2016 #36
the sheer ugliness and hatred toward her is like nothing I have seen in all my decades. and yet, niyad Sep 2016 #37
K&R! DemonGoddess Sep 2016 #42
how DARE we call attention to the deplorable sexism???? why, we might make people uncomfortable niyad Sep 2016 #43
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