2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: If you're thinking of voting third party this fall, please reconsider. [View all]NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... how it is the fault of the HRC supporters that the Bernie-or-Busters feel the way they do.
"And if it still angers you that people feel that way about Bernie and not about our current nominee...you might want to consider what it is about the candidate people such as yourself insisted was the person we HAD to nominate if we didn't want to go down in flames, etc ...
I invite you to link to a post of mine that said any such thing - along with all the other bladdy-blah-blah bullshit.
What you invariably seem to advocate is that the former Bernie supporters who are promoting voting third party, or sitting out the election due to spite, should be coddled and placated in order to win their votes.
According to you, it always comes down to how hard done-by the BS supporters have been, and how allowances should be made for their reluctance to support the candidate who would KEEP TRUMP OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
Sorry, no deal. I, for one, am not interested in kow-towing to people who are no better than the right-wingers who they have suddenly decided have a legitimate point of view. I am not interested in placating people who still think HRC should be listening to THEM, instead of following the course that won her the nomination in the first place.
I am sick-to-death of people who identify themselves as True Progressives (TM) who constantly promote the idea that HRC "stole" the election from Bernie, rather than admit that the majority of Democrats weren't buying what Bernie was selling - people who would rather see the country "burned to the ground" than admit that Trump and HRC are NOT the same.
I am not the least bit interested in coddling people whose "resentment lingers" because their preferred candidate didn't get the nomination. I don't give a flyin' fuck about what's causing them to be less enthusiastic about HRC. And I certainly don't care about those who think a Trump win will "teach the country a lesson".
You can make excuses all you want for those people, Ken. The reality is they are no better than the right-wingers they now quote, the anyone-but-Hillary crowd who are all too happy to see Trump elected because they think it proves their point that not giving Bernie the nomination deserves punishment.
Fuck that - and fuck those who think that way. Bernie is NOT the nominee. Get over it and move on - and stop pretending that the fate of the nation is somehow LESS important than the personal butt-hurt of a small group of voters who think their feelings are more important than the reality of the outcome of this election.
It's really very simple, Ken: Either you want to see Trump elected or you don't. There is no middle ground.
If you have to be coddled, you don't care if he's elected. If you have to be placated, you don't care is he's elected. If you are advocating voting third party, you don't care if he's elected. If you want to play the persecuted butt-hurt Bernie-or-Bust supporter, you don't care if he's elected.
"She doesn't have to try and BE Bernie, but she should be listening to the better lessons his campaign taught."
It's time for the Bernie-or-Busters to acknowledge that the majority of the party thought HRC's agenda more in keeping with what THEY want, and should behave accordingly. But they've made it clear that it's their way or no way - so they can sit on their sorry butts and complain all they want. No one is listening.
My feeling is that the Bernie-or-bust crowd never vote anyway - so their absence at the polls will not be missed in any event.