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calimary

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67. Welcome to DU, shockey80!
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:04 PM
Oct 2016

This election has provoked all kinds of conflicting feelings in me. There's an overriding exhilaration at the thought that one might actually live to see a woman elected President. I still find it remarkable that I lived to see an African-American President!

I feel an ongoing sense of resolve that Hillary will prevail. If I hadn't already voted, this latest email shit would not change my mind or my eagerness to vote In fact, now, it's PERSONAL. Now they've crossed the line. I feel more adamant than ever about standing behind her. Didn't think I could feel that more strongly than I did, but Trump & Comp bring that out in me.

I do also feel fear, though. I fear what the Trumpsters will do, what the teabaggers will do, what the 2nd Amendment people will do - if/when their side loses again. If WE win, that part will be scary. If THEY win, EVERYTHING will be scary! For me, that's worst of all, because if they win, winning will be seen as a validation of everything they did and said and stand for. It will tell them they were right, and reinforce all that bad behavior and anti-social violent acting out and bullying - it'll tell that side that they were right and that they did the right thing. THAT will become the campaign model. THAT will become the New Way. Because THAT's what wins. We've already seen increasing outbreaks of bullying manifesting in our schools since the rise of Trump. Teachers and administrators have reported that and studies have already shown that. It will reinforce AND reward bad behavior, and that, to me, is THE #1 biggest reason why they HAVE TO lose. And not only that, but imagine if we finally have a "president" who never bothered to release his tax returns. What precedent will THAT set as far as accountability, authenticity and transparency?

I hate to have to admit this, but I find it hard to disagree with the whole "deplorables" thing. I'm sorry. If after everything they've seen, and everything they've heard, they STILL think this sexist, racist, misogyinst, lying, thieving cretin is presidential material who will make all their dreams come true, and is in it for THEM and not for himself, they STILL trust the future of this planet to a climate change denier who has repeatedly asked "if we have nukes, why can't we use them?" then I have no hope for them. And yeah, I regard them as thoroughly deplorable. And worse.

Nope semby2 Oct 2016 #1
The dangers that Republicans present PJMcK Oct 2016 #9
Not really. I've always known that Trump embodies the true Republican face and heart, even though BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #2
Yes, America is scarred by this election kimbutgar Oct 2016 #3
I'm not so surprised about the hatred and racism Sophiegirl Oct 2016 #4
I live in Texas BigMin28 Oct 2016 #59
It has reaffirmed what I already knew Proud liberal 80 Oct 2016 #5
I concur HAB911 Oct 2016 #40
I've come to believe that it's morally defensible to be conservative but not geek tragedy Oct 2016 #6
We have a propaganda problem. shockey80 Oct 2016 #7
Yep and they want to remain ignorant Proud liberal 80 Oct 2016 #10
Hate radio changed my mom. CrispyQ Oct 2016 #13
Yes right wing brainwashing 24/7/365 workinclasszero Oct 2016 #28
It has definitely made me more polarized. unitedwethrive Oct 2016 #8
I hope Americans realize that Trump is exactly what the republican party is. CrispyQ Oct 2016 #11
Yes, although I am registered Independent and used to vote some Republicans NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #12
I hold deep contempt for the cultural right. Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #14
Not really relayerbob Oct 2016 #15
Yeah - just stunned at the degree to which they will just flat out make up stuff. No pretense Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2016 #16
Yes. sofa king Oct 2016 #17
The self destuction shockey80 Oct 2016 #18
It's made me lose respect for my dad for the first time ever Rocknrule Oct 2016 #19
It also made me lose respect for a loved one in my life. LeftInTX Oct 2016 #20
My main fear is that there will be another Trump like candidate 2020,2024 HipChick Oct 2016 #21
It will be someone worse than drumpf if history is any indication workinclasszero Oct 2016 #30
It hasn't changed me so much as it just made me more vigilant, quicker to respond to the lunacy Persondem Oct 2016 #23
The crazies have been out there since Bill Clinton LeftInTX Oct 2016 #24
Yes because now I fully realize what a threat to freedom and democracy the republican party workinclasszero Oct 2016 #25
It has given me a very judgemental view of republicans meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #26
Trump, has ripped the mask off of republicans and it's now very clear what they are about. I avoid RKP5637 Oct 2016 #38
The majority of my in law family are republicans meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #43
Some people have often told me "some" of the older republicans think they're still voting for RKP5637 Oct 2016 #50
It's made me hate republicans and all they stand for lastone Oct 2016 #27
I agree with you lastone completely katmondoo Oct 2016 #31
Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #33
Yes I am not going to let deplorables get away with their b******* anymore Dem2 Oct 2016 #29
The massive number of bigoted and hateful people in the US is astounding. It makes me wonder RKP5637 Oct 2016 #32
I've learned about "white privilege" on this site and, after... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #34
It has not changed me. It has given me a deeper understanding of the AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #35
And welcome to DU AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #36
I used to differentiate between Republicans and their leadership & elected officials TeamPooka Oct 2016 #37
As a woman, yes. It's taken me 36 years, but I've finally found my inner bitch. grossproffit Oct 2016 #39
inner bitch intensifies!!! nt retrowire Oct 2016 #47
Amen! Sunny05 Oct 2016 #54
I am more optimistic than ever. Hillary has an excellent track record of getting things done Lucinda Oct 2016 #41
Yes it has changed me. Akacia Oct 2016 #42
I have a long-distance Jewish lady friend in Connecticut with... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #45
What you said get the red out Oct 2016 #44
yep. retrowire Oct 2016 #46
Nope...I had already voted. run_mac_run Oct 2016 #48
I used to firmly believe that roughly one in four Americans were bleedin' idiots. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2016 #49
I have become depressed about the state of our democracy. Cause: northoftheborder Oct 2016 #51
I've learned that sexism runs deep and is as corrosive as racism. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #52
Yes. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2016 #53
Our hope is with the Millennials. They are the newest generation to enter the political stage. Fla Dem Oct 2016 #55
Its been a real nasty stinker....... Historic NY Oct 2016 #56
I predicted this crap. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #57
After GW Bush was re-selected I thought half the country was STUPID Martin Eden Oct 2016 #58
I learned a few things: Jamaal510 Oct 2016 #60
Yes. drm604 Oct 2016 #62
I've seen this coming but it's still a shock to me. TahitiNut Oct 2016 #63
Solidified my disdain for anything Repub... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #64
No, not really. stone space Oct 2016 #65
No, we've been drifting this way for awhile now...... WcoastO Oct 2016 #66
Welcome to DU, shockey80! calimary Oct 2016 #67
Not really. I've always hated misogynists and white supremacists. Iggo Oct 2016 #68
Not really. I am surrounded by trumpsters, so they don't surprise me. femmocrat Oct 2016 #69
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