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2016 Postmortem

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andym

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Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:18 PM Nov 2016

One of Hillary Clintons top aides nailed exactly why she lost [View all]

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One of Hillary Clinton’s top aides nailed exactly why she lost
By Chris Cillizza November 14 at 1:42 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/14/one-of-hillary-clintons-top-aides-nailed-exactly-why-she-lost/

"In The Washington Post's terrific oral history of the 2016 presidential campaign, there's a quote from Hillary Clinton media consultant Mandy Grunwald that is remarkably prescient. Responding to a question about how Clinton could lose despite being ahead in every traditional measure of the campaign, Grunwald said: "How it will happen would be that the desire for change was greater than the fear of [Donald Trump], the fear of the risk. .?.?. That’s something we talked about very early on — how do we make sure that people aren’t comfortable making that leap because they’d like to go for change. . . . The question is what’s the more salient question when they go vote."

That's it. That's the election in a nutshell: change vs. risk......
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Why did Clinton lose, then? Because no one understood just how much people wanted change and how big a risk they were willing to take to put someone way outside of the political system into the White House.

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[summarizing: only 38 percent of voters vs 52% for Clinton said that Trump was "qualified" to be president;
only 35% said that Trump had a presidential temperament vs Hillary at 55%. Voters knew that Trump was dishonest 66% said he was dishonest vs 64% for Clinton.]

BUT,
* One in three voters said Trump was honest and trustworthy (36 percent said the same of Clinton).
But, the desire for change last Tuesday was bigger than any worries Clinton was able to raise about Trump. Four in 10 voters said the most important character trait in deciding their vote was a candidate who "can bring needed change" to Washington. Of that group, Trump won 83 percent to Clinton's 14 percent — 83 to 14!!!!"
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Since this came from a top Clinton campaign consultant, it's clear that the campaign knew what they were up against. There is little doubt that Comey was the difference maker, but if Trump hadn't captured the mantra of change, then there is good chance that Hillary would have still won. Unfortunately, her team knew that they couldn't use that theme, since she has a long political history in Washington coming in.

postscript: there are many stories similar to this one, ascribing the desire for change as a critical factor. Apparently even President Obama agrees that this theme played a key role:

from http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/world/europe/obama-trump-nationalism-europe.html
Visiting Europe, Obama Warns Against Rise of ‘Crude Sort of Nationalism’
GARDINER HARRIS NOV. 15, 2016:

"Mr. Obama was unapologetic and unequivocal on his record of inclusiveness.

“So my vision’s right on that issue,” he said. “And it may not always win the day in the short term in any particular political circumstance, but I’m confident it will win the day over the long term.”

Mr. Obama said that the desire for change was a huge factor in Mr. Trump’s victory.

“Sometimes people just feel as if we want to try something to see if we can shake things up, and that I suspect was a significant phenomenon,” he said.

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Face it, she walked a fine line on a number of fronts. LisaM Nov 2016 #1
Change was the theme that was needed in the midwest especially andym Nov 2016 #2
Well, if they think Trump is going to bring back their jobs.... LisaM Nov 2016 #3
Hey! Not that bridge. MelissaB Nov 2016 #6
Okay! LisaM Nov 2016 #12
Obviously Trump is bullshitting them on the jobs thing. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #11
"Believably" say it.... cough cough. bettyellen Nov 2016 #13
I don't let the media off the hook at all. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #16
she never said it in her own paid for ads. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #33
I saw ads about jobs- assumed they were for the Midwest . bettyellen Nov 2016 #35
Yes, when in doubt, go for the man who grabs pussy WhiteTara Nov 2016 #4
And they overlooked his racism sexism homophobia xenophobia. boston bean Nov 2016 #5
I hear it was for jobs KT2000 Nov 2016 #10
i wouldn't say they overlooked it. i would say it's a big part of WHy they voted FOR him JI7 Nov 2016 #19
Bullsh*t. Cilizza's their Republican analyst. n/t splat Nov 2016 #7
Next time I need surgery I'll go to my bartender, tavernier Nov 2016 #8
Hmmmm ... Dakotacrat Nov 2016 #9
She didn't lose !!! Bucky Nov 2016 #14
Absolutely. The level of denial around here is disturbing WRT the election duffyduff Nov 2016 #18
I don't think it's denial Bucky Nov 2016 #25
I am so fucking sick of that contentless mantra of change BainsBane Nov 2016 #15
Most of the people I talked to who voted for Trump wanted change. Kaleva Nov 2016 #20
I live in an area with very few Republicans BainsBane Nov 2016 #23
Yep. My read as well. In fact, for the last 10 - 15 yrs. The Democratic Party... Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #32
Cillizza is an asshole. Blame everybody but his own profession who created this mess. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #17
seriously-- he sucks ass Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #26
Hillary Clinton WON by a million votes and counting.The Electoral College ultimately caused the loss Hekate Nov 2016 #21
she will win the popular vote by about 2 million votes andym Nov 2016 #22
that email made me cry :( DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #24
I hope she will find peace through her family, particularly those precious grandkids. MoonRiver Nov 2016 #28
Hillary lost because the system is rigged. Coyotl Nov 2016 #27
Don't agree ... her campaign didn't play the system correctly ... Auggie Nov 2016 #29
Your statement somewhat supports the OP position, actually Still Sensible Nov 2016 #36
If you're implying the GOP rigged the system via obstruction and propaganda then I misread it Auggie Nov 2016 #38
Well that would explain a campaign built around your opponent instead of the issues. jmg257 Nov 2016 #30
Andym. "How do we make sure that people aren't comfortable..." Did I get that right? Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #31
What is hypocritical to me is they wanted a change in the presidency and "drain the swamp", Fla Dem Nov 2016 #34
That's a great point and I think part of the blame is on D's BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #37
Clinton lost because of a conglomerate of issues...it wasn't just one thing...but TrekLuver Nov 2016 #39
But what did so many conciser to be "change"? Raastan Nov 2016 #40
Yup, Hillary should have run her ads on what she wants to CHANGE rather than bashing Trump ErikJ Nov 2016 #41
From reading some of the postmortems Danascot Nov 2016 #42
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