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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
29. Blue Dogs / Neolibs / "center left" Dems / DON'T KNOW HOW TO WIN ELECTIONS.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:50 PM
Nov 2016

I think that's a, if not THE, big takeaway here.

- Conservative Dems are not "more pragmatic."

- Neoliberals don't know "how things work." Unless you mean how certain people get PAID, which is not the point of elections, or shouldn't be.

- Social Democratic ideas, like nationwide healthcare or education, aren't unworkable "pie in the sky." They're things people need, and that other people in the world have, not drug-induced fairy tales.

- Telegraphing that big business and Wall Street are really okay, and can keep doing what they're doing, does not help.

- In short, the things the self-styled masters of the universe -- the donors and big business interests -- DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING.

So let's not have so much of that going forward. It's nonsense. We won with a guy the country thought was a wild-eyed liberal, even though he wasn't. We lost with "center left" (read: center-right, except for social issues, kind of) candidate, against the worst competition in history.

Enough. We need to stand for something the other side doesn't. Not the same thing with less racism and sexism.

The cracks that divide us must be healed [View all] nashville_brook Nov 2016 OP
It is my opinion that the FDP needs to stop running from progressives. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #1
we have to do something different, that's for sure. nashville_brook Nov 2016 #2
We won a house seat in my district!!!! Took it from the Republicans. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #3
lot's of good wins in Central FL: HD-49, SD-13, CD-10, CD-7 nashville_brook Nov 2016 #4
Orlando is moving past purple into the blue. DirkGently Nov 2016 #28
you can thank the Democracy Alliance for that nashville_brook Nov 2016 #31
Blue Dogs / Neolibs / "center left" Dems / DON'T KNOW HOW TO WIN ELECTIONS. DirkGently Nov 2016 #29
1 Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #33
Indeed. We can probably trace that back to 1950... Ken Burch Nov 2016 #7
I'm going to guess "donor money" has always been the reason? DirkGently Nov 2016 #14
WELL THERE'S A THOUGHT. n/t DirkGently Nov 2016 #30
Time for some progressives up in here. DirkGently Nov 2016 #5
Blue Dog BBQ needs to exist...the name is just too good. nashville_brook Nov 2016 #6
Please tell me that place would just serve brisket and ribs... Ken Burch Nov 2016 #8
You must try the pulled Blue Dog as well. DirkGently Nov 2016 #9
I will take some burnt ends n/t DVRacer Nov 2016 #34
Ummm. Burnt ends. n/t DirkGently Nov 2016 #37
I don't know what Florida Dems need to do to fix it. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #10
Stop taking orders from the DNC? DirkGently Nov 2016 #11
Where are the good statewide candidates? geek tragedy Nov 2016 #12
Grayson was far better than Murphy. DirkGently Nov 2016 #13
I preferred Grayson, but the domestic violence thing did him in as much as anything. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #15
There was never any indication there was "DV" DirkGently Nov 2016 #17
that, and Alan Grayson ran multiple hedge funds nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #18
The "Hedge fund" was another blue dog cheap shot. DirkGently Nov 2016 #19
He also has temperament issues. He was an extremely flawed candidate. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #21
there was no DV nashville_brook Nov 2016 #32
Yep. Saw that play out. Ugly. DirkGently Nov 2016 #38
Grayson flamed out. He was a walking ethical/legal time bomb geek tragedy Nov 2016 #16
Both lies from his Dem opponents. DirkGently Nov 2016 #20
and the Republicans wouldn't have used that against him? nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #22
They hadn't managed to before. DirkGently Nov 2016 #23
he was in a safe D district, a lot different than running statewide nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #24
True, and Rubio might have won regardless. DirkGently Nov 2016 #25
here's the alternate theory: geek tragedy Nov 2016 #26
So,it was a "helpful" dishonest torpedoing of good Dems? DirkGently Nov 2016 #27
the party destroys the talent. nashville_brook Nov 2016 #35
The donors are literally the Republican funders DirkGently Nov 2016 #36
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