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SpankMe

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18. If what you're saying is true, then Dems are condemned to lose POTUS forever.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:12 PM
Dec 2016

This is because if the states get to apportion their electoral votes under their own preferred system, then what's to prevent a red state (red governor/legislature/judiciary supermajorities) from doing he following:

1. Use red majority to pass state constitutional amendment requiring a 75% vote of the legislature and 75% of the public vote to pass all future constitutional amendments.

2. Use that currently existing red supermajority to pass a constitutional amendment saying that only a 1/3 vote of the population (rather than a simple majority - i.e., 50% + 1) is sufficient to apportion all of the state's electoral votes.

Under the above scheme, even if one, two or all three branches of that state's government turned blue some day, there would never be enough blue votes in that state to exceed the 2/3's vote required to take the states' electoral votes, and there'd never be enough of a blue supermajority to roll back the constitution to reflect a simple majority requirement.

Before you say anything about how farfetched that is, just think of the conniving that Republicans have done so far. It is totally within their MO to re-engineer basic electoral processes and legal institutions to guarantee red victories under almost any circumstances. I believe Trump's team will be doing this at the federal level to assure unshakable Republican control of all aspects of government, even if a future president and house should become Democratic.

Here's a thread about #1p1vote and urgent calls to action to protect our democracy Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #1
The theory here being that the Constitution is unconstitutional FBaggins Dec 2016 #2
The right to equal justice under law supercedes the EC if a conflict arises. Coyotl Dec 2016 #10
If what you're saying is true, then Dems are condemned to lose POTUS forever. SpankMe Dec 2016 #18
Sorry... that's beyond far-fetched FBaggins Dec 2016 #21
because it conflicts with the tenth amendment gejohnston Dec 2016 #3
Here are numbers to AGs of states we need to call today to demand they enforce the Equal Protection Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #4
Winner take all for state electoral votes is NOT in US constitution. Enforce Equal Protection Clause Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #5
THIS..!!! pangaia Dec 2016 #6
Am in NY too! NY AG Eric Schneiderman 1-800-788-9898 Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #7
contact them ASAP.... pangaia Dec 2016 #8
Start making the phone calls. We need just one state AG to take to supreme court, but the more AG's Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #9
My first reaction was to scoff at this. Skinner Dec 2016 #11
CA Attorney General Kamala Harris -ph # 916-322-3360 Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #12
Yesterday's tally was a 2,597,156 vote Clinton victory. still counting. Coyotl Dec 2016 #13
Wow! That graph!!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #17
Yeah, why are they just standing idle in neutral? lonestarnot Dec 2016 #14
Great post! Important to read. JudyM Dec 2016 #15
The Father of Birtherism bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #16
Attorney General Phone numbers. Call! We just need one to take to Supreme Court Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #19
K&R!!!! 2naSalit Dec 2016 #20
Unilateral disarmament will not work. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #22
The concept is for the Supremes to invalidate winner-take-all across the country to comply with E.P. JudyM Dec 2016 #23
Interesting but wrong. sarisataka Dec 2016 #24
That's one way to look at it. Another is that that's right as long as it does not infringe on on Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #25
In Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court ruled states don't have the power to recount Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #35
Thanks, M45. Great o.p. Will call AG Beemer tomorrow. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #26
Awesome! Thank you! Let me know how phone call goes! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #29
Called AG Beemer's office, spoke to H and she put me on with her supervisor, E. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #30
I could not gleam from this article how rounding can properly divide a state's EC vote count Stargleamer Dec 2016 #27
Does "equal protection" imply "equal representation"? world wide wally Dec 2016 #28
We don't even know if the votes are reliable tc123 Dec 2016 #31
??? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #32
Distractionary post. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #33
The Electors Trust provides free and strictly confidential legal support to any Elector who wishes t Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #34
Considering that some red state electors are saying that they won't vote for Trump Thor_MN Dec 2016 #36
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