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The Velveteen Ocelot

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2. Bingo. Trump is just a symptom of
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

... I'm not sure exactly what. Maybe we were just being held together with the duct tape and baling wire of a shared belief in our "system" but then it all started falling apart when the system couldn't contain the anger of people who thought they weren't in control any more? Not that long ago a candidate like Trump would have been unthinkable; his own party would have tossed him out the back door into the alley. I think Sarah Palin was the first sign that really overt awfulness was acceptable in politics, at least to some people. She opened the door and all that festering hate came out and was validated. I don't how it can be fixed - most people still believe in political decency but enough don't, or are willing to overlook gross indecency if they think the'll get a tax break and the Mexicans and Muslims will get kicked out, that we might be looking at some kind of civil war. Maybe not a shooting war, but some kind of collapse of the US as we now know it.

We didn't underestimate Trump. [View all] sellitman Dec 2016 OP
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #1
Bingo. Trump is just a symptom of The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #2
Yep. Orsino Dec 2016 #3
Fuckin' A Emilybemily Dec 2016 #4
all things considered, we did pretty well, with hillary getting notably more votes. unblock Dec 2016 #5
Democrats haven't had an electoral victory that didn't directly involve Obama or W in 20 years. k2qb3 Dec 2016 #6
No. We overestimated RUSSIA. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #7
yes, the RUssia thing was the biggest. JI7 Dec 2016 #20
I never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter mdbl Dec 2016 #8
Saddest post reply sellitman Dec 2016 #18
Yeah, all those red states that listen to Faux News all day and listen Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #29
The guy across the street from us is a prime example. redstatebluegirl Dec 2016 #30
No. (nt) YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #9
Yes PatSeg Dec 2016 #10
Trump is simply the end result of 20+years of right wing hate-talk radio, hadEnuf Dec 2016 #11
I can't disagree. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2016 #12
Hillary kicked Trump's butt. It was the GOP establishment that beat her by successfully selling StevieM Dec 2016 #13
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #14
I remember October quite differently HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #17
I thought Donald Trump would be a catastrophe for the Republican Party this election Martin Eden Dec 2016 #15
They liked it sellitman Dec 2016 #21
They liked much of what they saw, but were also blind to the consequences Martin Eden Dec 2016 #22
Yep already a crack in the dark side... The foreign workers at KingCons vineyard isn't going well uponit7771 Dec 2016 #25
Most aren't rational. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #32
I disagree. Exilednight Dec 2016 #16
Deplorable Dumbfuckistan. oasis Dec 2016 #19
They'll just blame Democrats or ignore it. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #23
Already started... Donald Trump hire foreign workers in vineyard uponit7771 Dec 2016 #24
you got that right MFM008 Dec 2016 #26
I know did Va Lefty Dec 2016 #27
You overestimated hillary bowens43 Dec 2016 #28
Sounds like a winning message for 2020! YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #31
Keith Ellison didn't underestimate Trump jfern Dec 2016 #33
I think both were and are true aikoaiko Dec 2016 #34
this election... djsunyc Dec 2016 #35
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