2016 Postmortem

onetexan

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10. i'm sure Biden didn't run in deference to Hillary

Fri Jan 6, 2017, 01:27 AM

Jan 2017

but i do hope he will be in both good mental and physical health to run in the next election so he can kick the orange idiot out of office if he's not impeached by then. I love Joe despite his gaffes and love love love his wife Dr. Jill Biden. She could have taught at major universities with her credentials but chose to teach at the junior college level. She is ever so graceful and dignified, and made a great pair as first ladies with Michelle O - a pair of well-educated women who carried themselves with such class. I believe Jill is the first second lady i really paid attention to.

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I think Biden could have won [View all] hollowdweller Jan 2017 OP

I agree. elleng Jan 2017 #1

He and a whole long list of folks who havent been the target of 3 decades of Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #26

Hell yes he would have won. Binders Keepers Jan 2017 #2

And would have made plenty of entertaining gaffes Binders Keepers Jan 2017 #3

No gaffe's in that interview. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #43

he is a white male so he would have been able to get away with things that Clinton could not JI7 Jan 2017 #4

I'm really not sure if going to the right of Clinton would have won. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #5

For sure Biden is more conservative except on foreign policy hollowdweller Jan 2017 #46

Agree with your overall thoughts here. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #49

If they helped him they didn't land. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #56

Do you have an example of an attack line not used that you think would have landed? NCTraveler Jan 2017 #67

Grow up. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #68

I don't get your reply. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #73

Recently joe biden told trump to grow up drray23 Jan 2017 #80

Kick for transparency. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2017 #75

Yep redstateblues Jan 2017 #6

4th time's the charm? WhiteTara Jan 2017 #7

Really.. I love Joe.. but all this talk about who would have won who Cha Jan 2017 #8

Agreed! And a bit counter productive as the players that "could have" won't be in 2020 NWCorona Jan 2017 #12

And it is MFM008 Jan 2017 #18

Its all specilation, and by now, it just keeps the lrimary fedteting, and serves no dionysus Jan 2017 #25

I started this not so much about speculation as to who could have won but hollowdweller Jan 2017 #44

I'm gonna still say he could have won but you've made the best point so far NWCorona Jan 2017 #11

In those cases he had not been V treestar Jan 2017 #34

So, 4th time's the charm. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #36

My point was it wouldn't be the 4th time treestar Jan 2017 #38

But it would still be his 4th effort. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #40

If he would have survived the primary MichMan Jan 2017 #9

Not sure the DNC would have conspired with Clinton against Biden though hollowdweller Jan 2017 #47

Still with that nonsense? Clinton's delegate lead was from the South. The DNC had nothing to do with stevenleser Jan 2017 #63

It's just like the hacking. Nobody knows what effect it had in the whole thing. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #70

No, it's not. Not at all. The DNC had zero effect on the primary. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #71

i'm sure Biden didn't run in deference to Hillary onetexan Jan 2017 #10

why is Jill's lack of ambition such a positive and notable trait? bettyellen Jan 2017 #15

Lack of ambition?? onetexan Jan 2017 #16

You're the one who noted she could have taught at major universities but scaled back her ambitions.. bettyellen Jan 2017 #17

Sheesh no need to have an inferiority complex onetexan Jan 2017 #33

She and FLOTUS DashOneBravo Jan 2017 #61

Really being good and sticking with the little guy is a good thing. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #48

Interesting point of view. I was truly puzzled by the post but I really do not know much bettyellen Jan 2017 #62

Joe Biden is like Bizarro world Hillary Clinton in that... SaschaHM Jan 2017 #13

I honestly think many BOBers didn't care about policies as much as hating HRC .... bettyellen Jan 2017 #14

I agree. They anyone but Hillary crowd treestar Jan 2017 #37

And loving old white men. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #39

Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #53

Well, you know I might resemble that statement. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #54

I agree Biden could have taken it - his personality alone is more "relatable" and "likable" bettyellen Jan 2017 #64

Much as I hate it, being a white man would have helped treestar Jan 2017 #35

So do you think that is a weakness with Ellison? hollowdweller Jan 2017 #69

Who is Ellison in this context? treestar Jan 2017 #74

Bingo! The double standard stinks. JHan Jan 2017 #77

Seems another possibility. Orsino Jan 2017 #19

He was my first choice by far since Obama won in 2012, but I quickly pivoted to Hillary Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #20

Biden had some major BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #24

I was 10 months old then, so do not remember this, obviously. I assume he overcame Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #28

You and other people your age might have heard more about that hearing had he run karynnj Jan 2017 #45

He has been an excellent VP BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #52

He needed up redeeming himself treestar Jan 2017 #41

Men WERE forgiven more easily. BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #50

good point about Kerry treestar Jan 2017 #57

Many who couldn't forgive her (like the JPR'ers) had no problem with Edwards, Kerry, Biden. JTFrog Jan 2017 #60

I'd rather not believe that, but there is no other reasonable explanation for that behavior. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #65

Just as there is no BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #66

Ok, but he didn't cuz he didn't run. zappaman Jan 2017 #21

I think he could have easily beaten someone like Trump or Cruz mtnsnake Jan 2017 #22

Biden v Kasich is the one matchup out of all possibilties I would be afraid to predict. Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #29

Why do we keep seeing these BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #23

After a devastating loss, people just like to speculate with no harm intended. It's human nature. mtnsnake Jan 2017 #27

I agree. It's too bad he wasn't running but I think the choice had been made years ago. jalan48 Jan 2017 #30

Joe is one of the most likeable politicians in DC. ... spin Jan 2017 #31

Absolutely he would've won! nt Raine Jan 2017 #32

You never know the path not taken - and he would have had to beat Clinton in the primaries karynnj Jan 2017 #42

Right you are randr Jan 2017 #51

No Democrat was gonna beat Russia who was teaming with Drump, Comey, wiki et al. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #55

SO if we could only go back in time to 2015, and if we could then convince Biden to run, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #58

me too. ShaquantaBrown Jan 2017 #59

Biden's problem BlueStateLib Jan 2017 #72

I don't think he would have beat Hillary in the primary. Chemisse Jan 2017 #76

Hillary would have crushed Biden in a closed primary HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #78

It's over. Move on. Squinch Jan 2017 #79