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freedom fighter jh

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12. Libertarians are visionary . . . and blind.
Sat Dec 28, 2013, 10:59 AM
Dec 2013

We all have our blind spots. Libertarians are distinguished by having different ones than the rest of us do.

On YouTube I heard a libertarian say he did not believe in the U.S. Constitution. Even though I do believe in the Constitution, I found his comment a refreshing break from all the Constitution worship you seem to hear in politics all the time. His statement seemed to free me to take a middle position: The Constitution is just the framework that our founders established, and later statespeople amended over the years, to serve as the basis of our government. Why can't we just look at it that way instead of trying to one-up each other about how much we love it?

Later, I heard the same speaker, at a conference (I was watching on YouTube again) complain about airport delays caused by the bad old government. He pointed out that he had flown a thousand miles in the same amount of time it had taken him to work his way through an airport. Fly is what you do when government is not involved. Trudge is what you do when government is involved.

Yo, genius, air travel owes its whole life to government. In aviation's early days, the Post Office created air mail service specifically to help the air travel industry get started. Now, air traffic is controlled by a government agency. If it were not controlled, airplanes would be smashing into each other all the time. Then people would not fly and there goes the airline industry. And it only makes sense that government should do the controlling, since the skies are public.

Libertarians seem to see things that people on neither the left nor the right can see, while missing what is obvious to everyone else. I believe we have something to gain by listening to what they have to say. Listening, that is, without signing on to their whole package.

nuts and manipulated mdbl Dec 2013 #1
Exactly correct...manipulated. zeemike Dec 2013 #9
Clean up the quotes in that next to last paragraph. Lasher Dec 2013 #2
A very good description of the libertarians I have known personally. nt Nay Dec 2013 #3
Yes, they want less government but bitch if there's a pothole in their street. groundloop Dec 2013 #4
whenever I encounter a libertarian running for public office, I point out the hypocricy. somehow, niyad Dec 2013 #14
Ask any libertarian skepticscott Dec 2013 #16
not to take away from a great article but santroy79 Dec 2013 #5
Remember that "a stopped clock is correct twice a day." I also have reservations Nay Dec 2013 #6
A succinct quote from the linked article: Lasher Dec 2013 #10
yes... ensemble Dec 2013 #8
Welcome to DU, ensemble! calimary Dec 2013 #39
Welcome to DU, santroy79. calimary Dec 2013 #40
Oh, I love this quote: tanyev Dec 2013 #7
"Their saving grace is a complete lack of organizational ability" progressoid Dec 2013 #28
we have that problem too DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #32
Delightful! another_liberal Dec 2013 #11
Libertarians are visionary . . . and blind. freedom fighter jh Dec 2013 #12
The libertarian answer to that is skepticscott Dec 2013 #18
Like the people on the train in Atlas Shrugged treestar Jan 2014 #41
Libertarians had a lot more votes then Republicans want to admit. mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #13
Welcome to DU, mitty12u2! calimary Dec 2013 #38
I lost my label maker a long time ago. MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #15
Good point. You need not go any further than here, with a different opinion on something, 7962 Dec 2013 #17
kick valerief Dec 2013 #19
Those aren't libertarians; those are right wing looneys. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #20
That may be so, but are there any "good" libertarians left? starroute Dec 2013 #23
Yes, but it's a good question you ask as to where they are. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #30
That one person sounds more like an anarcho-syndicalist starroute Dec 2013 #31
More like "down with the federal government" truebluegreen Dec 2013 #25
Good article! The first time I listened to Ron Paul speak against our foreign aggression mountain grammy Dec 2013 #21
Thanks so much, DV for bringing this here. These 4 paragraphs say it all: freshwest Dec 2013 #22
Libertarians are utopians. Octoberfurst Dec 2013 #24
Well said. truebluegreen Dec 2013 #26
Welcome to DU, Octoberfurst! calimary Dec 2013 #37
I went to one meeting. felt no genuine human warmth. heaven05 Dec 2013 #27
I see libertarianism as political puberty RainDog Dec 2013 #29
Political puberty!!! calimary Dec 2013 #36
The 2 biggest threats to libertarianism: progressivism and persistence. Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #33
+1 freshwest Dec 2013 #34
LOVE this!!! calimary Dec 2013 #35
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