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Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
24. Let's be clear about one thing
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:07 PM
Feb 2015

They are ALL serious candidates, in that whoever the republican's put forward, they will mostly unite behind AND the media will do their bidding in both finding some mind bendingly bizarre positive frame for them AND will find some mind bendingly bizarre way to negatively frame the democratic candidate.

This time in the 99 cycle, W was as big a joke as any of them. When the dust settled a smart,capable and decent Al Gore was framed as an arrogant geek and nitwit son of privilege a guy you'd like to have a beer with.

John Kerry actually served in battle, was wounded and received medals for it. When that election was over, he was a weak coward and the jackass who ducked vietnam and hid in a mountain during 9-11 was hailed as resolute and having had kept us safe.

McCain was a half senile, cartoonish say anything to get elected politician who picked the most truly abhorent VP candidate in our lives and still got nearly 47% of the vote.

Barrack Obama was an incumbant who was doing a good job and Romney was a cartoonish, gaf machine and he got 47% of the vote.

It does not matter one big how bad we see these morons to be, or even in fact who incompetent or stupid they are.

Once it is a two horse horse race, they have at worst a punchers chance.

Jebbers, because he's experienced in stealing elections! napi21 Feb 2015 #1
Absolutely, even with his negatives, John Poet Feb 2015 #16
Sorry, I just can't take anyone of them seriously. merrily Feb 2015 #2
Kasich has fewer negatives than the others. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #3
Walker because he will have the Oligarchs behind him. OregonBlue Feb 2015 #4
Whichever of these people wins will have the oligarchs behind him (or her, if Fiorina). Jim Lane Feb 2015 #5
None of the above tracks29 Feb 2015 #6
I agree with you. Jebby was pretty underwhelming out of the start gate... CTyankee Feb 2015 #11
At least Mitt was a Presidential candidate tracks29 Feb 2015 #12
Sucks to be them! Aww, too bad... CTyankee Feb 2015 #14
Switched Arwinnick Feb 2015 #7
Jeb, but only because he stands a better chance of carrying Florida than the others. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #8
You think? Even with the ghost of Terry Shiavo? napi21 Feb 2015 #19
Yep even. I have little confidence in the memories of voters. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #23
He isn't running, but I think Jon Huntsman HappyMe Feb 2015 #9
agreed. n/t Sheepshank Feb 2015 #10
Jon Huntsman would be the better candidate, his problem, he is sane and does Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #28
We should thank our lucky stars he isn't running. HappyMe Feb 2015 #29
And happy he did not get through the primary last time Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #32
The people who feel optomistic about Huntsman are Dems! napi21 Feb 2015 #37
I think the corporate PTB don't want someone like Huntsman running for the Republicans... cascadiance Feb 2015 #31
They are all in with corporations though some try to say differently, they have Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #33
Here is where you are wrong, he never makes it through the primaries. Nt Logical Feb 2015 #41
Santorum, if it's him versus Hillary. beerandjesus Feb 2015 #13
Oh, but he won't. These guys can't help it. CTyankee Feb 2015 #15
We should be so lucky to have Santorum as the chosen nominee! napi21 Feb 2015 #35
I think Jon Huntsman is the only one who could have actually had a chance. oldandhappy Feb 2015 #17
He was my choice, too DFW Feb 2015 #18
I'm glad Huntsman is out but I wouldn't dismiss the others so confidently. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #20
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2015 #22
Jeb, probably Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2015 #21
I guess we should remember Saddam threatened Jeb's Daddy also. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #30
Let's be clear about one thing Cosmocat Feb 2015 #24
I completely agree. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #25
+1. You never know what might happen in the months/weekd leading up to an election Hoyt Feb 2015 #27
Whichever asshole the electronic voting machines/SCOTUS vote for will be bad. valerief Feb 2015 #26
I think it would be Jeb Bush with Walker a close second davidpdx Feb 2015 #34
Walker will be rolling in Koch money. he's their boy. nt TeamPooka Feb 2015 #36
Probably Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2015 #45
Pataki probably could win it all but can't get the nod. When it come right down to it they have alot craigmatic Feb 2015 #38
I should've included Pataki with Fiorina, Graham, and King as the self-delusional possibilities. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #39
Walker and Kacich are unknown nationally and can be made over Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #40
Susana Martinez said before her re-election last year that she wouldn't run for President in 2016. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #43
Jebby because like his daddy workinclasszero Feb 2015 #42
Abe Lincoln Evan Yessirreebob Feb 2015 #44
Of the ones mentioned, Walker. Joe Magarac Feb 2015 #46
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