2016 Postmortem

MADem

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30. Yes, they were--and the rightwing loves 'em. Still.

Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:58 AM

Jul 2015

They especially love trotting out the Neil Kinnock tape and running it side-by-side. They get positively gleeful when they have an excuse to do that.

Then they suggest that the AVMs are indicative of serious ongoing problems, and when people hear "brain surgery" they do get squeamish and afraid. There's a huge learning curve on these things, I think it might be a bridge too far. I also think Biden isn't the type to stand in the way of history, and HRC has the potential to make history. If he jumped in, I'd see him doing a screening strategy, taking heat, drawing fire...but who knows?

One theory on a Biden candidacy (a bit dated but the basic concept stands):

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/02/joe_biden_should_run_for_president_the_vice_president_won_t_win_but_it_would.html

Why Joe Biden Should Run for President

The vice president won’t win, but it’d be the best thing for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.

By Jamelle Bouie

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Do you want Joe Biden to run for president? [View all] Nye Bevan Jul 2015 OP

Joe Biden is a good man, a very good man, and an excellent VP. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #1

I love Joe Biden... Ino Jul 2015 #2

Finally something we can all agree on? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #3

I think he should run. gwheezie Jul 2015 #4

I guess it depends if one agrees with his positions. still_one Jul 2015 #8

I don't agree with all of anyone's positions gwheezie Jul 2015 #26

AVMs. Two of them. MADem Jul 2015 #5

Same for me. BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #9

On more than one occasion he has said that was his "dream job." MADem Jul 2015 #11

Another one of my key issues with him is BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #12

I think people -- especially people here at DU -- forget what the "sense of the nation" was back MADem Jul 2015 #16

thanks for this adult analysis MBS Jul 2015 #20

Seth McF. does have a way of nailing it--even when it's a bit snarky/painful! nt MADem Jul 2015 #21

Those incidents were around 30 years ago oberliner Jul 2015 #13

What's past is prologue. MADem Jul 2015 #17

I think his positives outweigh his negatives oberliner Jul 2015 #18

I agree, but I'd as soon he didn't run. He'll do what he feels, of course! MADem Jul 2015 #19

Yes, they were--and the rightwing loves 'em. Still. MADem Jul 2015 #30

Yes, he is honest akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #6

No. SheilaT Jul 2015 #7

Lol. Agschmid Jul 2015 #24

Welcome him? Absolutely, want him? Well, not as much as other candidates... HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #10

Why shouldn't he run for president if sufrommich Jul 2015 #14

I love Joe, Barack, and Hillary DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #15

No for a few different reasons davidpdx Jul 2015 #22

I think Beau's illness may have prevented him from running TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #28

Anyone who wants to, and has the ambition to should run. Agschmid Jul 2015 #23

Sure, why not? Lil Missy Jul 2015 #25

He'd likely take some of the Hillary vote. So..... libdem4life Jul 2015 #27

No ibegurpard Jul 2015 #29