2016 Postmortem

Proud Liberal Dem

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134. Excited for Jeb, no. Excited for Hillary, yes

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 01:01 PM

Jul 2015

With some voters being somewhat superficial about their voting habits, I think that the opportunity to elect a woman President will be hard not to excite voters, particularly younger ones IMHO. Most younger voters weren't around (or were kids) during the Bill Clinton years, so they haven't really had time to "get tired" of the Clintons. Many of them grew up under the eight years of George W. Bush and are at least somewhat aware of the mess he made, so I doubt that they would want to elect another one.

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Will voters be turned off if the race is between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton? [View all] kentuck Jul 2015 OP

Yup. Especially young voters. n/t djean111 Jul 2015 #1

You mean the ones who tend not to vote? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #4

"We don't need them anyway!" Scootaloo Jul 2015 #8

+1 nt artislife Jul 2015 #21

Why would you put quotes around something I did not say? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #38

Highlighting their own strawman, I guess? nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #148

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #153

Funny...I didn't see that in the post MineralMan Jul 2015 #70

no wendylaroux Jul 2015 #101

The ones like my 840high Jul 2015 #109

Then you should talk to him. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #116

Not according to the polls. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #2

But we still can't neglect GOTV. murielm99 Jul 2015 #49

GOTV was one of my priorities in 2007-2008. PADemD Jul 2015 #95

Only if the first woman were Elizabeth Warren. PADemD Jul 2015 #94

People love a horserace as much as they hate change. MADem Jul 2015 #3

While you may be correct on this passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #73

I think it says they like a vibrant competition, but they're somewhat risk-averse. MADem Jul 2015 #103

BINGO Cosmocat Jul 2015 #120

I would be. nt Live and Learn Jul 2015 #5

This one sure would be. Scuba Jul 2015 #6

Can you imagine sitting through a Clinton/Bush debate? raindaddy Jul 2015 #61

Not while breathing Demeter Jul 2015 #63

+1000 artislife Jul 2015 #67

Me too. It's a good one. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #69

Thank you, I'm here all week! Try the veal! Demeter Jul 2015 #78

Don't mind being your straight man Demeter... raindaddy Jul 2015 #97

That would be so bad that even these guys wouldn't watch it.... L0oniX Jul 2015 #71

it woud take forever, wendylaroux Jul 2015 #102

i know i will restorefreedom Jul 2015 #7

I don't see Hillary fatigue as much as Bush fatigue Sheepshank Jul 2015 #9

I see sheer terror okasha Jul 2015 #24

Agreed Sheepshank Jul 2015 #89

If it comes to this, the only thing that can save us, is sheer terror at the thought of............. LongTomH Jul 2015 #150

"They do have a Borg mentality after all." passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #76

Re-read Sheepshank Jul 2015 #88

And you know this because? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #91

Postulation and opinions only....no need to get defensive nt Sheepshank Jul 2015 #113

There was no defensiveness in my reply passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #115

yes, I know it cuts both ways. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #124

I agree with you regarding republican politicians passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #144

The borg mentality will trump all else Cosmocat Jul 2015 #121

Seems to me she does well in head to head polling against him. You may be tired hrmjustin Jul 2015 #10

Just for the record... kentuck Jul 2015 #26

thank you MJkcj Jul 2015 #46

The upside is that voters will truly be facing Clinton or Bush decision WITH benefit blm Jul 2015 #11

And as much as I can't stand the Clintons, I will take delight if another Clinton Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #141

That is EXACTLY my point. It forces voters to declare for progress or regression. blm Jul 2015 #142

The irony, of course, is that it appears that Bill and George W have grown Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #145

WE know all that - casual prez year voters do not. blm Jul 2015 #146

Yeah, I agree with that. I live in MD and take for granted that I can Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #147

I will most certainly Sherman A1 Jul 2015 #12

Yes peacebird Jul 2015 #13

I don't like presidential dynasties either, but The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #14

Well, this voter is. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #15

We've had two Bush Presidents, only one Clinton. We're owed a Clinton. Metric System Jul 2015 #16

Good response! kentuck Jul 2015 #28

love this MJkcj Jul 2015 #44

i'm for bernie restorefreedom Jul 2015 #79

Q: What's not to like about a Bush/Clinton Dynasty? 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #17

I hear that a lot. jaysunb Jul 2015 #18

If that is the case, this progressive dem will vote third party ybbor Jul 2015 #19

And then we can thank you when we get another conservative on SCOTUS MJkcj Jul 2015 #45

The way I see it either way the country is fucked ybbor Jul 2015 #48

+1 Enthusiast Jul 2015 #72

+1 DebbieCDC Jul 2015 #86

+1 HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #98

+1.....sadly things are going to have to get alot worse before.... yourout Jul 2015 #152

"SCOTUS"will be the battle cry for both parties. (eom) oasis Jul 2015 #75

You'll have to thank me, too. I am 840high Jul 2015 #110

If Hillary was really concerned about that... Chan790 Jul 2015 #119

Yep Robbins Jul 2015 #20

Then you will be voting for more Scalias and Thomas' on the supreme court MJkcj Jul 2015 #40

They'll totally be turned on by a Sander/Trump race.... boston bean Jul 2015 #22

Actually, I think the public would...nt artislife Jul 2015 #55

Well considering that America is hooked on glinda Jul 2015 #23

Nah, it'll be like the Cowboys and the Steelers in the Superbowl again. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #25

Yes. nt Puglover Jul 2015 #27

I'm in the position of not HAVING to vote for President. I live in CA. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #29

I feel ya. LuvNewcastle Jul 2015 #133

Turned off is being generous. 99Forever Jul 2015 #30

Me too. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #74

For those in both parties who support different candidates--yes nt artislife Jul 2015 #31

YES. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #32

Why Don't Democrats Vote? I'll Tell You Why. Binkie The Clown Jul 2015 #33

Or, we lose off year elections because they are not national. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #41

No, we lose those off year elections because our candidates don't have the guts to be Democrats tularetom Jul 2015 #80

2010 wasn't a Presidential election year. sunnystarr Jul 2015 #42

He was talking about 2014, and comparing it to 2010. jeff47 Jul 2015 #64

Anybody believing that there is "no difference(s)" between Republicans and Democrats Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #136

Exactly. But "Isn't paying attention" describes at least 60% of voters. n/t Binkie The Clown Jul 2015 #157

Anybody that disconnected Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #158

A lady I know... Binkie The Clown Jul 2015 #159

Hard to vote while vomiting. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #34

No. n/t Lisa D Jul 2015 #35

Absolutely, imo sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #36

Many people care deeply about the supreme court, the economy and women's rights issues MJkcj Jul 2015 #37

That's the race Wall Street wants. NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #39

I don't care what race the wall street wants. MJkcj Jul 2015 #43

You can protest all you want, NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #50

Also, I really believe you "know" it will be H in the general artislife Jul 2015 #58

Hillary would win that race, hands down. Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #47

If they are the candidates, SheilaT Jul 2015 #51

"They don't like the idea of passing the presidency down from family to family" rock Jul 2015 #52

Examine the Bush family history. murielm99 Jul 2015 #56

I want real Democrats ybbor Jul 2015 #85

Hillary is a read Democrat. murielm99 Jul 2015 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #106

I was gonna reply... ybbor Jul 2015 #107

...^ that 840high Jul 2015 #111

No blood kin? Are you suggesting that that somehow makes a difference? tularetom Jul 2015 #82

And then it will be Hillary's daughter against Jeb's son. Make it stop! DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #53

Nope. It's gonna be Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush... Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #62

Democrats will. Republicans will be thrilled to vote against Clinton. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #54

Exactly ybbor Jul 2015 #87

They will be thrilled to vote against the "socialist" too Cosmocat Jul 2015 #122

To them, all Democrats are socialists. jeff47 Jul 2015 #123

That ignores the last 7 years Cosmocat Jul 2015 #125

No, it doesn't. jeff47 Jul 2015 #127

Yeah it does Cosmocat Jul 2015 #138

Yes, it really could have been worse. How many times has Obama been impeached? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #139

No, it would not and could not have been worse Cosmocat Jul 2015 #143

Who's turn is next? udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #57

I absolutely believe that there is Bush burnout SoapBox Jul 2015 #59

Maybe they like the idea of passing it to the best qualified. William769 Jul 2015 #60

it'd be delirious promises from Clinton, the people kissing one whip or the other, MisterP Jul 2015 #65

As long as more of them than more of us don't vote I could give a rat's ass ./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #66

I predict the lowest % voter turnout in the history of the USA. L0oniX Jul 2015 #68

If the final matchup is Clinton II v. Bush III, I think you're probably correct. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #83

I won't vote against any Demcratic candidate tularetom Jul 2015 #77

If that is how the results of the primary end up, the only thing I can say is if they have loved the still_one Jul 2015 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #84

Initially perhaps but it will gain traction eventually. DCBob Jul 2015 #90

But...but...they are inevitable...only the best for the l%, to answer your question, why bother mother earth Jul 2015 #92

I admire Sanders supporters against Hillary in the GE. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #93

YES. That is the worst possible set up. morningfog Jul 2015 #96

Yes. In fact I think that would inspire a third-party candidate. truebrit71 Jul 2015 #99

I hope it's on the right JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #131

LOL!! If the race is between a Bush and a Clinton underthematrix Jul 2015 #104

Not by the majorities that selected them as nominees, no. Lil Missy Jul 2015 #105

Yes. I think a lot 840high Jul 2015 #108

Sure but there would still be an election and millions will vote. mmonk Jul 2015 #112

Yes! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #114

Many Dens will stay at home Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #117

Yes. Chan790 Jul 2015 #118

Silly HERVEPA Jul 2015 #126

Well, yeah. If that comes to pass.... daleanime Jul 2015 #128

Polling shows Clinton's favorables are highest among the Democrats BainsBane Jul 2015 #129

You bring up another good point - another valuable distinction between the two, to keep in mind. calimary Jul 2015 #149

No - I won't JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #130

Speaking only for myself, I've already made up my mind to vote for Clinton. NaturalHigh Jul 2015 #132

Excited for Jeb, no. Excited for Hillary, yes Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #134

This one will be Doctor_J Jul 2015 #135

Yes. And low turnout favors Jeb! KamaAina Jul 2015 #137

I think our side will lose. I think more people dislike HRC than Jeb Bush. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #140

It certainly will me.....yuck. yourout Jul 2015 #151

Maybe vadermike Jul 2015 #154

Go vote for the Democrat dem in texas Jul 2015 #155

Does Ross Perot have a son or younger brother? Reter Jul 2015 #156