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Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:46 PM Jul 2015

Question Two: Does Bernie's platform and history support black people? [View all]

As we can see from the previous poll, obviously Bernie Sanders is not racist in the eyes of DUers.


Question Two:

Do you believe that Bernie's platform and voting/speaking history shows that he cares about and supports black people (and all minorities)?

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Bravenak: LWolf Jul 2015 #1
Downthread. bravenak Jul 2015 #5
depends on how you say it, part 2... luvspeas Jul 2015 #2
Much to my delight I have taken to reading your post Fearless Jul 2015 #4
thenk you, no! thenk you! not at all! most indubidibly! luvspeas Jul 2015 #8
with bongos KittyWampus Jul 2015 #71
He views everthing through an economic lens. bravenak Jul 2015 #3
Would you say that Fearless Jul 2015 #6
Hillary spends more time with black people so she knows better than to pivot to economics bravenak Jul 2015 #9
Sometimes you can learn more about people by hanging around them than reading a bunch of books DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #28
True. Here I go being all pro Hillary. :( bravenak Jul 2015 #29
this is the same reason she is popular among gays JI7 Jul 2015 #57
She takes time out for everybody. It helps alot. bravenak Jul 2015 #58
No she doesn't. Welfare reform. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #75
She should not have. But she still know how to connect and her supporters are nice to black people. bravenak Jul 2015 #78
So is Bernie and his supporters London Lover Man Jul 2015 #79
No. Many of his supporters have spent the past few days attacking black folks. bravenak Jul 2015 #81
She was a Senator from New York. KamaAina Jul 2015 #93
This is why I keep saying 'Bernie needs to hire some black people'. It would help. bravenak Jul 2015 #135
I would say Hillary is racist as fuck! However, Bernie doesn't seem to understand racism and would Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #42
What issue do you see him refusing to address? Bernie has never dismissed police racism as an issue Ken Burch Jul 2015 #167
I'm more impressed with his solution and results than the way he packages them. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #10
Good for you. I guess he'll win without us who are not exactly like you. You're BETTER. bravenak Jul 2015 #11
You and your opinions are irrelevant to me. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #14
Then why are you bothering me? bravenak Jul 2015 #16
Maybe your interlocutor will get "The Invisible Man" for his or her birthday. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #30
They come to bug me just to say they don't care what I think. Sigh. bravenak Jul 2015 #31
As an ambassador for the white race all I can say is most of us don't roll like that./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #32
I know. These are special snowflakes. bravenak Jul 2015 #33
Um, I was thinking of Lewis Black's 'special snowflakes,' but is this the new thing? freshwest Jul 2015 #169
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #85
Look at you, that is repulsive. I might alert. bravenak Jul 2015 #89
It would never get hid with our current hury system. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #95
Being a man means you are never too big to say you were wrong. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #98
Hidden! DU is better than we think! Thank you jury!! bravenak Jul 2015 #99
And that is one of the most specialist. okasha Jul 2015 #142
Gah!!! No more this stuff. I wish it stop soon. Ahhhh!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #143
Obama supporters have dealt with B.S. about him for 6+ years and some Bernie supporters stevenleser Jul 2015 #174
He deserved to get that post hidden. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #146
Silly season and a few not quite real supporters being loud and drowing out all the good stuff. bravenak Jul 2015 #148
Online trolling and real life trolling below: freshwest Jul 2015 #173
Unreal.. so glad you're on here, bravenak.. need I say .. your opinions are very relevant to Cha Jul 2015 #103
Thank you. bravenak Jul 2015 #104
You're too kind.. I think they're acting like.. Cha Jul 2015 #110
Well... This will go down as the longest just deliberation ever... Results Glassunion Jul 2015 #132
Wow. Jesus. bravenak Jul 2015 #133
He's trying to be relevant. ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #154
Gah! So random. bravenak Jul 2015 #155
That was a snotty thing to say.... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #25
Well isn't that just par for the course Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #41
Ummmmmm BooScout Jul 2015 #47
HERE IT IS, FOLKS!! ***RIGHT HERE*** Number23 Jul 2015 #117
Results... Major Nikon Jul 2015 #145
That's not over the top at all n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #21
After 17000 rude condescending comments from bernie supporters I'm not in the mood for bullshit. bravenak Jul 2015 #24
You're right. okasha Jul 2015 #144
What results can you point to since he was in congress? Renew Deal Jul 2015 #83
I just got home and logged on. My Post button was all lit up Snotcicles Jul 2015 #126
So, LWolf Jul 2015 #12
Pretty much. His message is not for us. bravenak Jul 2015 #13
Thank you. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #15
De nada. bravenak Jul 2015 #19
Why were his previous comments on it not good enough? jeff47 Jul 2015 #87
He needs to spend time with black people. His message was crafted for people like you, not me. bravenak Jul 2015 #91
So, a sort of "Just doesn't sound right" kind of thing? jeff47 Jul 2015 #94
Kinda. Yes. Like a let us tell you what we need thing. bravenak Jul 2015 #100
Thank you, Bravenak Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #17
Thank you!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #18
Keep in mind... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #20
I know. But the ones who get it really get it good. bravenak Jul 2015 #22
Yep...some definitely get it... Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #23
The best, really!-nt Anansi1171 Jul 2015 #90
Do you have evidence to support your assertions? You seem to think he can't walk and chew... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #34
Have you paid attention AT ALL the last few days? If I get one more angry condescending lecture bravenak Jul 2015 #35
If you know his damn record, stop misrepresenting it. Is that too much to ask? n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #37
Stop condescending to me. I am not a damn child. I misrepresent nothing. bravenak Jul 2015 #38
Where is the attack? Indeed, where is the condescension? In fact, where is the evidence that... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #39
Lecturing me on his record like I never knew. bravenak Jul 2015 #43
Going by your post on this thread, I honestly thought you didn't know, I haven't been in... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #50
Oh. Well okay. We all know by now, fyi. bravenak Jul 2015 #51
take a good look at his record HFRN Jul 2015 #113
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #114
Where's Jaime Lanister when we need him? Fozzledick Jul 2015 #129
I like Bernie just fine. bravenak Jul 2015 #131
Glad I never commented on this on Twitter.... John Poet Jul 2015 #147
Hee hee hee! You did good. Stay out of the fray. bravenak Jul 2015 #149
Sorry about that hidden thread. You did not deserve that. stevenleser Jul 2015 #175
His record includes his reaction at Net roots BainsBane Jul 2015 #52
OK, this I don't understand, why should it be race vs. economics, aren't they all connected anyways? Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #66
They are interconnected, but race is not secondary to economics BainsBane Jul 2015 #76
"Sanders seems to believe it is all the result of poverty." Evidence for this statement? Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #97
What has he said to suggest otherwise? BainsBane Jul 2015 #124
I'm not sure what you are asking for here, has Bernie Sanders ever said that racial... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #137
My point was that he sees economics as the cause BainsBane Jul 2015 #177
As the cause of what? Racism? Police violence? Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #179
I wonder if Sanders thinks it's about poverty and that Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #128
What's to be said for it okasha Jul 2015 #150
Yeah, this is impossible. I hope Bernie can come up with an answer you all approve Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #151
As a Sanders supporter, I am truly embarrassed... TDale313 Jul 2015 #69
Sanders is reaching out to the black community right now. bravenak Jul 2015 #70
I think it is a positive sign. TDale313 Jul 2015 #80
Not an either / or BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #45
Sorry but this is exactly what I mean. This is not helpful. Thanks though. bravenak Jul 2015 #46
What would be helpful? BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #48
We are talking about racism and it always gets deflected in favor of something else. bravenak Jul 2015 #49
Community empowerment through health and economics can absolutely move us closer to social justice BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #55
See, we don't want you to add to or change the subject. That's the problem. bravenak Jul 2015 #56
I am "we", and we can disagree BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #59
Here go the lectures from well meaning liberals. bravenak Jul 2015 #60
Not once have I suggested what you should focus on BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #61
Fine. Okay. Just have had too many lectures. bravenak Jul 2015 #62
Sounds good. Take care. n/t BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #63
Oh, here's something that was broadcast in my area about this locally: Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #68
Thanks for sharing this BOSNYCDC Jul 2015 #88
so do the Koch brothers HFRN Jul 2015 #101
That had nothing to do with anything. I do not care about the Kochs today. bravenak Jul 2015 #102
of course you don't - you're not a 'dot connecter' nt HFRN Jul 2015 #105
That is calling me stupid. I think i will alert. I have never alerted so many posts in one day. bravenak Jul 2015 #106
be sure to post the result nt HFRN Jul 2015 #108
No. bravenak Jul 2015 #109
bravenak.. You know what you can tell from jury comments? MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #115
I think 2 of the explanations were pretty clear HFRN Jul 2015 #116
Yes. That is par for the course. bravenak Jul 2015 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author HFRN Jul 2015 #180
What makes you so much more intelligent than your interlocutor? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #127
what's the punchline? nt HFRN Jul 2015 #138
You/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #139
now you did it HFRN Jul 2015 #140
LOL/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #141
We have an amazing poster who is always willing to talk about this issue. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #7
I find both of your polls offensive... luvspeas Jul 2015 #26
Yeah and here's why... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #27
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #44
Can I ask you a question? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #53
Admittedly, I am furious, so I will allow this OP and thread to illustrate the points... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #65
I think maybe you have me confused with someone else. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #73
You asked if I would allow you to ask me a question. What's your question? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #77
I don't know man I forget. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #84
I'm a LADY! Go Steelers! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #92
LOL so sorry about that. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #96
Ironically, Bernie gets accused of NOT being two faced nt HFRN Jul 2015 #111
Yes, but keep in mind rock Jul 2015 #36
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #40
some people on the left frame things through a class based analysis. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #54
Gee, I thought it did. But what do I know? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #64
How to post crap like this. bravenak Jul 2015 #67
I have never seen anything like that on a "progressive board" before. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #72
No shit. Skinner may need to do something soon. bravenak Jul 2015 #74
+1 Historic NY Jul 2015 #178
Just when I thought all of these non-black people running to vote "yes" would be the most Number23 Jul 2015 #119
Ready to burn DU to the ground. Start a fire and cleanse this place. They act like Jehovah witnesses bravenak Jul 2015 #120
And Liberal_Stalwart is the first casualty. On a time out for what looks like three months Number23 Jul 2015 #122
They got me too. I said, youse a hater. Hidden 4-3. bravenak Jul 2015 #123
Oh wow.. 'cause of course no one can feel the hate. Cha Jul 2015 #162
I know, right? bravenak Jul 2015 #165
Comrade Grumpy I got my eye on you... luvspeas Jul 2015 #86
Get lost n/t. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #171
wow. it took you this long to come up with that? luvspeas Jul 2015 #176
Apparently you need to get a clue.. Cha Jul 2015 #112
It sounds like you are trying to say "all lives matter?" Renew Deal Jul 2015 #82
wow, quite some attacks going on in these threads. delrem Jul 2015 #107
how many who answered here are black? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #118
That is a very true point BainsBane Jul 2015 #125
The ones who got alerted on or hidden in this thread are the black ones. Always. bravenak Jul 2015 #136
kind of like the movies BainsBane Jul 2015 #170
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #130
That works both ways but I bet you already knew that. nc4bo Jul 2015 #134
I'm still trying to figure out ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #152
I am in very rare agreement with you ibegurpard Jul 2015 #153
The point is to engage in dialog around specific point of fact statements. Fearless Jul 2015 #157
What doesn't work ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #158
The point was to answer the question asked not to find out if someone supported Bernie or not. Fearless Jul 2015 #159
On a site that is 85% Bernie supporters ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #163
^ Zorra Jul 2015 #156
Who cares? No, really. Recursion Jul 2015 #160
We actually are projected to pick up the Senate currently. Fearless Jul 2015 #161
How does "the right voice" overcome gerrymandering? Recursion Jul 2015 #164
The right voice inspires people to go to the polls. Fearless Jul 2015 #166
As a white guy, I'm not really qualified to make any definitive statement mythology Jul 2015 #168
not rich black people that much Doctor_J Jul 2015 #172
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