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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Right-wing media and the origins of the Bernie "doesn't care about minorities" meme. [View all]DemocratSinceBirth
(100,400 posts)36. Res ipsa loquitur
Q: Why'd you guys do it?...
A: We just lost another one of our sisters, Sandra Bland, in police custody....
We are deeply disturbed...that law enforcement continues to brutalize and kill our communities, and get away with it.
Today's action was about calling out elected officials who may seem progressive, that you're progressive is not enough. We need more...
This is our moment...
If Ella Baker, Assata Shakur, and Martin Luther King stood silent, we would not be in this current moment today.
Q: If you don't talk about it, it doesn't exist, right?
A: Yes...
Q: Not talking about racism, not doing anything about racism - we as progressives, as Democrats, can sit around and say, "That's great." But unless you take the flag down, unless you restore the Voting Rights Act, do all these things that you're supposed to be doing, that should have been done for decades, it's not going to change...
A: When we shut an action like this down, we want you to stand in solidarity with us. For media, we want you to tell our stories the way we want them told. When law enforcement gives you police reports on our past convictions, we don't want that to be the headline, coupled with, "that's probably why we were killed." There's a way in which we need to shift narratives in this current moment. There needs to be a radical shift in the narrative of black people and our stories, and there needs to be a radical solidarity with us.
This action shouldn't be something that's annoying. People should be proud to be a part of this time in history. The Confederate flag has been taken down. When new black leaders are rising up and saying, "Stop killing us."
This is our moment to shine, and people should feel honored....
I want to make a specific ask to the presidential candidates, specifically the Democrats who are trying to reach into poor communities, people in black and latino communities. Your reform efforts have to be much more radical.
We need to hear that you are going to end detentions. We need to hear that you are going to ensure that ICE is out of jails. We need to hear that you are going to make sure that the one million black people who are currently living inside of US jails and prisons, that there are going to be real reform efforts to get them to be able to vote, that they will be able to have jobs when they come home.
We want to hear that you are going to divest from law enforcement, you're going to divest from the militarization of law enforcement, that you're going to put money into poor communities. We're not hearing that right now. We're hearing a lot of jibber-jabber.
I know that Senator Bernie Sanders left the stage. But it should not feel easy to get our vote. You need to fight for our vote. And we need the media to be pressuring these presidential candidates and fighting for the people's vote.
Q: Are you going to be going after Republicans?
A: We'll be going after Republicans, sure. But we always go after Republicans. Right now we also have to be going after Democrats.
A: We just lost another one of our sisters, Sandra Bland, in police custody....
We are deeply disturbed...that law enforcement continues to brutalize and kill our communities, and get away with it.
Today's action was about calling out elected officials who may seem progressive, that you're progressive is not enough. We need more...
This is our moment...
If Ella Baker, Assata Shakur, and Martin Luther King stood silent, we would not be in this current moment today.
Q: If you don't talk about it, it doesn't exist, right?
A: Yes...
Q: Not talking about racism, not doing anything about racism - we as progressives, as Democrats, can sit around and say, "That's great." But unless you take the flag down, unless you restore the Voting Rights Act, do all these things that you're supposed to be doing, that should have been done for decades, it's not going to change...
A: When we shut an action like this down, we want you to stand in solidarity with us. For media, we want you to tell our stories the way we want them told. When law enforcement gives you police reports on our past convictions, we don't want that to be the headline, coupled with, "that's probably why we were killed." There's a way in which we need to shift narratives in this current moment. There needs to be a radical shift in the narrative of black people and our stories, and there needs to be a radical solidarity with us.
This action shouldn't be something that's annoying. People should be proud to be a part of this time in history. The Confederate flag has been taken down. When new black leaders are rising up and saying, "Stop killing us."
This is our moment to shine, and people should feel honored....
I want to make a specific ask to the presidential candidates, specifically the Democrats who are trying to reach into poor communities, people in black and latino communities. Your reform efforts have to be much more radical.
We need to hear that you are going to end detentions. We need to hear that you are going to ensure that ICE is out of jails. We need to hear that you are going to make sure that the one million black people who are currently living inside of US jails and prisons, that there are going to be real reform efforts to get them to be able to vote, that they will be able to have jobs when they come home.
We want to hear that you are going to divest from law enforcement, you're going to divest from the militarization of law enforcement, that you're going to put money into poor communities. We're not hearing that right now. We're hearing a lot of jibber-jabber.
I know that Senator Bernie Sanders left the stage. But it should not feel easy to get our vote. You need to fight for our vote. And we need the media to be pressuring these presidential candidates and fighting for the people's vote.
Q: Are you going to be going after Republicans?
A: We'll be going after Republicans, sure. But we always go after Republicans. Right now we also have to be going after Democrats.
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Right-wing media and the origins of the Bernie "doesn't care about minorities" meme. [View all]
leveymg
Jul 2015
OP
Yes but implicit in that argument is that BLM is too dumb to figure things out on their own.
el_bryanto
Jul 2015
#3
A lot of people have been sucked in by this meme. It's The Blob of the '16 Campaign.
leveymg
Jul 2015
#4
Your interlocutor's raison d'etre seems to be robbing one group of agency.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#26
I think you know exactly what you've been doing in pushing this meme for the past 2 months.
delrem
Jul 2015
#40
It's not a meme that Bernie Sanders is not getting the support of minority communities
mythology
Jul 2015
#110
They will also need to figure out that they will be -- or have been -- infiltrated by the police
villager
Jul 2015
#57
Exactly the point. Before folks smear another Dem, be aware the meme originated in the GOP.
leveymg
Jul 2015
#17
This has been up for 6 hours or so and the usual people on DU pushing this meme are absent
hootinholler
Jul 2015
#18
Back in March of 2015 ... something else happened ... do you know what it was?
JoePhilly
Jul 2015
#19
We can walk the cat back even further, here's something related from Aug. 17, 2014
leveymg
Jul 2015
#104
And Obama handled it spectacularly, as usual - no deer in the headlights look.
George II
Jul 2015
#54
Easy to tell here: look who's doing the gloating, while the rest of us are just appalled.
leveymg
Jul 2015
#24
It's evocative of J Edgar Hoover of accusing Dr. King being a pawn of the communists./nt
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#30
I don't want to get a hide but it is repugnant to suggest black folks can't do things on their own.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#32
Well Soros and my avatar and Lee Atwater are planning a coup to install Hillary as Queen. Srsly.
bravenak
Jul 2015
#33
The sad thing is the young woman who heads BLM said why she did what she did.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#34
Straight up selfish. That's why. I'll be a Targaryan soon and burn them for us. Get me a dragon.
bravenak
Jul 2015
#35
I'm reserving judgment but I will be judging almost surely one way or the other
TheKentuckian
Jul 2015
#101
Can't cry. Be crying till i'm dead. Used to this shit girl. Hell, i've been called nigger by a guy
bravenak
Jul 2015
#50
my husband scares most of the worst ones away. He's BIG. They be looking sheepish.
bravenak
Jul 2015
#56
There trying poorly to make this about Hillary.. having no clue that everyone I know was behind
Cha
Jul 2015
#94
I have been here over twelve years and that's the most powerful post I have ever seen.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#63
I don't think it's all or nothing but i do believe there is an orchestrated effort being made.
Juicy_Bellows
Jul 2015
#70
After the birther bullshit and the Rev. Wright "controversy", are you surprised?
winter is coming
Jul 2015
#82
The meme isn't the black people being killed by pigs...we all know this is true.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2015
#86
No one said, or implied, that she was. You are unethically twisting the OP to suit
Zorra
Jul 2015
#72
"But the only way to stop the RIGHT WING meme of black people fighting for our causes is to elect
Number23
Jul 2015
#80
Why was Black Lives Matter an organic movement on Saturday and right wing pawns on Sunday?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#81
Right-wing media and the origins of the Bernie "doesn't care about minorities" meme.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#84
And it's really precious and adorable when you consider that we'd been in the AA forum talking
Number23
Jul 2015
#115
"Guys, after seeing the Sanders supporters show their royal hineys in CaliDem's OP" 4 Days Before!
Cha
Jul 2015
#134
And I did that OP after watching them stink up the board with the nastiest attacks for WEEKS
Number23
Jul 2015
#137