2016 Postmortem

delrem

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23. TPM says that its voters "self select" for tending Democratic,

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:59 AM

Jul 2015

vs. Republican, and tend in their willy-nilly use of the word "center" to be "more center-left than left-left", which is argyllbargle.

Then it says of these voters that "these are, like all "opinion leaders", very politically active and well read and they talk to other people about politics a lot." That sentence has no other purpose than to massage the egos of their readers, their customer base. It's just marketing.

If these voters are so smart, how is this distribution possible:
"On who they think will win the numbers are dramatically different ..
Hillary Clinton (78%)
Bernie Sanders (16.5%)"

That reads to me that TPM's voters buy into the "inevitably - because $$$" myth. A myth that was in effect "pre-sold" on this campaign season. To me that means that their predominant characteristic is acquiescence to being chattel with little or no self-volition, politically -- rather than having any real will to fight it.

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TPM Poll: Bernie Sanders (44.8%) Hillary Clinton (36.6%) Martin O'Malley (1%) [View all] kpete Jul 2015 OP

Why Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #1

That's a great argument... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #2

How do you campaign for your candidate? I just tell them about sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #14

Yup! kenfrequed Jul 2015 #27

Without a doubt madokie Jul 2015 #41

Or, like every political blog poll, it's a self-selecting representation of a minority voting niche brooklynite Jul 2015 #3

Depends upon what you think is "in the real world"... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #6

I'm not arguing about HOW people in the real world have come to their decisions... brooklynite Jul 2015 #9

But I don't think that survey means what the person citing to it, and those rec'ing it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #31

I have the same opinion as the majority at TPM LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #33

... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #34

Adding words to my quote? Really? LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #35

Sorry, I should have bolded it and indicated my editorial; but, I was on my phone at the time ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #36

Thank you. nt LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #43

is this for new Hampshire ? JI7 Jul 2015 #4

It's for TPM readers DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #5

Actually they may be smarter than you think OKNancy Jul 2015 #7

I already conceded they are the smart ones. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #8

"Bernie can't win" CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #13

it is hillary who can't win restorefreedom Jul 2015 #18

The people polled by TPM disagree with you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #32

the polls seem to not to be congealing restorefreedom Jul 2015 #37

Well ... That certainly is one way to interpret the polling data. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #38

clearly we have been looking at different polls. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #39

Clearly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #42

President Kucinich likes this poll...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #10

What about President Gore? zentrum Jul 2015 #12

They have company. okasha Jul 2015 #40

Certainly not representative of a cross-section of the electorate, but this is interesting: George II Jul 2015 #11

K&R! Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #15

You left off a bit there Pete..... BooScout Jul 2015 #16

It seems that all this primary election is going to provide heaven05 Jul 2015 #17

Isnt this a web poll? moobu2 Jul 2015 #19

It's a poll of the membership at Talking Points Memo. Maedhros Jul 2015 #28

What was the methodology? Adrahil Jul 2015 #20

Recommended. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #21

Bernie will win! True_Blue Jul 2015 #22

TPM says that its voters "self select" for tending Democratic, delrem Jul 2015 #23

What is the margin of error? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2015 #24

About 100% Adrahil Jul 2015 #25

‘Long shot’ Kucinich scores 77% in independent voter poll Freddie Stubbs Jul 2015 #26

Hillary started the 2008 primary campaign 50 points ahead before she even took off her coat. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #29

I think the point to be made is that politically astute liberals/progressives Maedhros Jul 2015 #30