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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: On what issue is Hillary better than Bernie? [View all]Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)278. No, that isn't the topic being discussed here
And I see no evidence that she won't implode under the stress of a general election campaign.
Please at least try to answer the question posted in the OP
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In my opinion Hillary has the advantage of better name reognition, yes, but I also do see
Cal33
Aug 2015
#264
If you're a Wall Streeter, Hillary's pro-banking agenda...if you're a CEO, her pro-corporate policies...if you're part of the military complex, her pro-war voting record.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2015
#276
Hillary certainly has more experience organizing failed regime change in Libya and Syria
leveymg
Aug 2015
#92
Point made about HRC's record as SoS is factual, unfortunately. It isn't a RW talking point.
leveymg
Aug 2015
#118
Any yet he polls well behind her in every poll I have seen in matchups with GOP candidates.
DCBob
Aug 2015
#37
I disagree. For decades politicians have engaged in 'correct speak' aided by
PatrickforO
Aug 2015
#129
Her negatives are not that high. Granted they are higher than her positives, This thread is about
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#199
I'm not talking about numbers. I'm talking about the fact that she has no appeal whatsoever
eridani
Aug 2015
#203
That may be true but this thread is looking for POLICIES where she is better than Bernie. We can't
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#207
The solid blue wall in the Electoral College virtually guarantees that any
totodeinhere
Aug 2015
#231
HRC - Controlled By Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - A Favorite Friend Of The 1%
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#106
I don't think that's clear. One could also argue that starting with single payer
DanTex
Aug 2015
#258
Simply put she foreign experience and a relationship with world leaders, she would not have to
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#11
OMG. You are laying the blame for the Iraq war, not on the people who voted for and shilled for it,
djean111
Aug 2015
#16
Facts are facts, perhaps you are not aware of Bernie's votes on war funding.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#20
Once the troops are there, you think the thing to do is leave them without support?
djean111
Aug 2015
#31
HC voted for the war and gets a pass, Bernie voted to support the troops and he's the bad guy.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#162
Well, give them credit for a very bizarre spin. A spin that would not go over very well
djean111
Aug 2015
#166
He voted against the Iraq War. Had there been no war, there'd be no war funding. nt
valerief
Aug 2015
#228
Obama was smart enough to get Hillary as SOS. He also surrounded himself with very capable
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#56
And yet Obama gave Afghanistan and Iraq to Biden because he didn't trust Hillary to do what's right.
Exilednight
Aug 2015
#243
The question is about Hillary. What liberal policies would she pass? Support her position!
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#142
These Hillary supporters.. they don't have any concrete facts, so they come up with some bullshit.
Turchinsky
Aug 2015
#215
She sponsored a bill on minimum wage and another bill to tie minimum wage increases to Cingressional
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#164
Are you telling me you need yet another link to Clinton's advocacy of the Iraq war?
eridani
Aug 2015
#198
You need links to demonstrate that women and children were slaughtered in our ME adventures?
eridani
Aug 2015
#205
What I said in #192 was what any rational person would concede to be results of
eridani
Aug 2015
#209
Yes, I have wondered why Bernie voted for AUMF, this funded the bombs, and also troop expansion.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#212
If the bombs was not have been funded it would not have happened. The funding was the most
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#217
Dodging, I did not talk about body armors for our soldiers, I and not dodging that Hillary voted for
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#230
Bernie is also, it helps the defense contractors. He votes for the funding of wars because the
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#246
There has not been one issue posted so far that Bernie doesn't actually have a stronger record on
Live and Learn
Aug 2015
#10
You're wrong about the gun bill. Every other industry except for the gun industry *can* be
DanTex
Aug 2015
#19
All of them. Look at the text of the bill, it only applies to the gun industry.
DanTex
Aug 2015
#285
He has a record of voting no on trade agreements, this is a responsibility of a president, he can't
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#23
I am not using his strengths against him, the job he is running for requires he deal with trade.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#173
I have been truthful, I have said what I need to say, I don't need to this back and forth.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#179
Bernie has the international experience of my pet schnauzer. Short list of other stuff...
Sancho
Aug 2015
#12
Good post Sancho, yes she has board experience also, has served on a presidential cabinet also.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#26
Funny that you mention Madoff...that's a common meme here in FL...vote for "another Bernie"
Sancho
Aug 2015
#62
Do all of those links point to Sanders' desire for already-budgeted jobs
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2015
#80
Generally Hillary makes progressive or liberal decisions...she's a fairly liberal Democrat...
Sancho
Aug 2015
#151
The question for thread is "On what issue is Hillary better than Bernie"? Respectfully this is not
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#152
I saw the pet schnauzer post and believe it is a nice historical portrate of activities,
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#155
Ok...this could take a while, because there's lots of details...but here goes one at a time.
Sancho
Aug 2015
#237
I see a lot of hot air. Ballanced Budget nonsence and vague suggestions. Where is Free Education for
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#259
We will have to agree to disagree. " The Financial Transaction Tax is a HORRIBLE idea " BS we had
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#263
There are lots of disagreements about the FTTs...including the chances that it would ever pass...
Sancho
Aug 2015
#265
Links are simply convenient...it's not like it's hard to check Hillary's record.
Sancho
Aug 2015
#234
Obama is not running this time so it is the present candidates experience and abilities.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#28
This is why I am a Hillary supporter, she supports my ideals more than the other declared DNC
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#53
Better pay for women? Then why doesn't she support a federal minimum wage of $15/hr?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#160
Yes, and George W was also elected, terrible president, did a lot of wrong things, took down two
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#49
The Opinions Of Others - Does Not List Actual Acomplishments - Only Allusions To Accomplishments
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#247
Not opinions.. these are actual items of experience. ie.. Senator, Secretary of State, etc.
DCBob
Aug 2015
#248
I think Bernie supporters (and I am one) pooh pooh the electibility argument.
el_bryanto
Aug 2015
#36
The candidate of "hardworking people, white people" wil be better at protecting black communities?
eridani
Aug 2015
#195
That she was willing to say it to attack a black presidential candidate is appalling
eridani
Aug 2015
#270
I disagree with your interpretation, but I appreciate that you have raised an actual issue
Armstead
Aug 2015
#97
I think many of us who want a CLEAN immigration bill passed would support him because he WOULD too!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#204
Why don't YOU come up with the issues on which Sanders is better than Clinton, okay?
George II
Aug 2015
#59
The entire premise of the OP is argumentative with an undertone of one with a chip on one's shoulder
George II
Aug 2015
#127
HRC is better at taking donations from Wall St CEOs and Corporate Super Packs
FreakinDJ
Aug 2015
#64
and can Sanders beat the Republicans without money? Can't deny that either!
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2015
#65
Keep telling yourself Bernie can get elected on dreams and wishes alone...
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2015
#74
Everyone dies. Nothing lasts. Therefore nothing ultimately matters.THAT'S REALITY.
Armstead
Aug 2015
#87
Just a visceral response to that ever-present dismissive putdown using that word
Armstead
Aug 2015
#110
Obviously under the circumstances....my "position" is that our opponents
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2015
#116
I think you (guys) lose a lot of credibility with the "both parties the same" bullshit. Everytime I
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#169
See, this rhetoric (even this Yes- but...' REPLY) is ridiculous- you are focused on economics ONLY
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#171
I did not know a president was only supposed to represent the interest of a few, I thought it was
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#91
One difference is the number of years spent in Congress, 1991 to present for Bernie,
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#109
On issues, she is not better than Bernie. She has name recognition and money.
peacebird
Aug 2015
#123
The two are detached by the comma as was the part before and the part after that you didn't bold.
NCTraveler
Aug 2015
#233
Virtually none and if any rare thing like women's health it is a great record to
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#146
Bernie seems to be running against Obama's legacy and Hillary is running on solidifying it and
bravenak
Aug 2015
#178
Bernie said he thought Obama should be primaried. Look in the AA group. On Tobin's thread.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#184
I don't care why. Obama is the Democratic President of the Untited States and our first black one.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#188
Wow. More than 250 responses, yet no HRC supporter has been able to answer the question in the OP:
kath
Aug 2015
#256
On the issue of being able to win a national election, which is the most important issue
Recursion
Aug 2015
#271