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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why I do not Support Hillary Clinton [View all]bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)41. well done! k and r
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The issue that transcended all this concern about Clinton and Sanders is the congress.
olegramps
Aug 2015
#114
Just a fact Sanders with go down like Mcgoven if the Dem's let the far left wing take over
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#157
It's not "a fact" it's your opinion. Many Republicans have expressed interest in voting
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#168
None of the people you mention have had anywhere near the draw Bernie has had. Not even close.
Bubzer
Aug 2015
#210
What a wonderful complement to Sanders. Those are/were some great Democrats. How odd to see
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#290
I really shouldn't have to point this out, but simply saying "History!" doesn't prove your point...
Bubzer
Aug 2015
#204
So where does Hillary stand on the TPP? You know every Union in the country is
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#254
That sound like an intelligent talking point, brought up by the media, etc.
PatrickforO
Aug 2015
#280
Because our economy is just exactly like that of 1972, which was a high point in median--
eridani
Aug 2015
#299
Bernie more than anyone, knows this. Which is why he repeats, over and over again, that
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#134
When you say the 'party' I guess you have answered your own question. Democrats shamefully
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#309
Yes, which is why the whole system needs changing and that is up to the people now. Our
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#315
If Sanders is elected and the Republicans continue their control of congress ....
AlbertCat
Aug 2015
#305
This why I can support Hillary: She is the most quailfied and she is the most popular Dem!
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#141
She is popular only because she has had decades in the spotlight, Bernie was a virtual unknown
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#149
Hillary is popular becasue of the Hard work she has done for Dem's and America
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#154
Qualified for what? For fighting wars in the middle east? For capitulating to Goldman-Sachs.
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#170
I do support Hillary and don't support Sanders: Hillary is the most quaified to serv and a Dem
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#200
Bernie will not 'reach across the aisle' on issues that Republicans won't budge on, such as SS.
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#256
The Clinton foudation is a charity: Hillary is not a corporatist, GO Hillary GO
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#142
When did Bernie Sanders have to make tough decisions? When did he have to consider the views of a
Metric System
Aug 2015
#4
You are clearly not familiar with his record. Both Hillary and Sanders served in the US Senate.
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#7
And apparently she still has a lot yet to study about the TPP and TPA before taking solid stances...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#24
Hillary has been many political fights: Sanders none: He lives in one party rule
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#146
if Vermont wasn't a progressive and pacifist stronghold, Sanders would never have been elected.
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#44
Bernie has shown good jugment because he makes decisions based on rock-solid
JDPriestly
Aug 2015
#70
thank you for your thoughtful reply. I rarely say anything because the usual responses have been
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#80
The characterization of "narrow platform" actually came from some old friends who have
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#136
New York is dfferent from Vermont: Bernie could never be a Senator of New York
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#148
Coordinate? Oh, you think I work for Hillary's campaign or something? If so, where's my cheque?!?
Metric System
Aug 2015
#110
... for the wealthy amongst us who will celebrate our move to corporate rule with her in charge...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#155
I not wealthy I am progressive: I want a comptent fight with Hillary in charge: Go Hillary
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#160
Never, has Sanders had a tough decision: His Vermont 95 white liberal, and few interests
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#152
Nonsense. Utter nonsense. Comparisons are one thing, another thing are these sweeping generalizations without meaning.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#153
Hillary has been out in front leading the party: and taking risk and making difference
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#162
Sanders sat in the Senate: He's talker: There is nothing fresh air about Sanders:
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#183
Hillary is more progressive because she has actually gotten progressive things done!
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#213
Sen Sanders has been working hard with the Democrats. He has agreed with the Democratic majority
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#189
Hillary has work for Dem's who are not the 99% and Serv email thing: Is just a GOP thing
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#206
I agree completely. H. Clinton works for the 1%. The email thing was wrong.
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#270
You are right: Sanders is not prepared to be President: I think the GOP are behind Sanders
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#145
I won't vote for her because she's just another ambitious politician seeking power at any cost.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2015
#5
She also exercised poor judgement in moving her emails to private servers...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#8
She fantatistic fodder for attack ads: because she is a winner: Sanders is a loser
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#163
No because she has a ton of baggage. The Republicans are looking forward to her running as
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#174
Hillary is the cleanest poltiics out there today: She has been investigate by the GOP!
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#177
The first thing Jeb will hit her with is, "Remember when the chips were down in 2002
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#178
Jeb's a loser: Bush made the choice for war not Hllary: The Clintons made a different choice
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#184
So Hillary wasn't active as a Senator then and making that choice with the rest of the Senate then?
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#188
H. Clinton not only supported the war but helped sell the Republican lies. She should have told
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#193
No Hillary didn't do anything selling of the war: Bush,Cheney and GOP did that:
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#203
I admit I have paid little attention to this issue, mainly because I am suspicious of Republicans'
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#16
This Server story is a creation of the GOP and the New York times rag: Hillary has good judgement
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#166
The Benghazi part IS a creation of the GOP, but SHE created the situation to allow this story...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#171
And if the problems were what #3 discusses, then she missed an opportunity to show leadership!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#294
I won't support her because she stands for absolutely nothing except herself and her own ambition.
TwilightGardener
Aug 2015
#10
Hillary stands for the Dem party: but there nothing wrong with ambition, ambition is a good thing
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#175
Did she or didn't she move government email to her own private servers? HUH?
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#185
It's more sexist to say that a woman can't be equally as self motivated as any man.
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#291
Her poor judgment has been an ongoing problem and I will not spend another minute of my life
Autumn
Aug 2015
#12
That's entirely up to you. If you vote for one because it's all you had left, and you get 8
jtuck004
Aug 2015
#18
Don't have to envision anything. I just look at history and current events. People don't change
jtuck004
Aug 2015
#56
I think we still have options. Eg, no matter who is in the WH, they cannot do much harm OR good
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#20
We have to work on Congressional elections also. The president, good or bad, cannot do much
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#25
I hate to be this way, but Murray and Cantwell both voted for NAFTA and for CAFTA and their TPP
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#34
I am willing to BET that you are wrong about that. You are free to go to my journal
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#53
Those who question Bernie's status as a Democrat should recall what HRC said about PBO in '08
RufusTFirefly
Aug 2015
#36
If someone does not support Obama then of course the same one would not support Clinton! It is only natural.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#50
I do hope all of the current Party members support the current President and current Democratic Party leader, to be replaced on January 7, 2017
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#60
Well, you're not in much of a position to declare who supports *anything* then, are you?
sibelian
Aug 2015
#83
You are not being clear. I did not mention Obama in the OP because he isn't running
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#87
you might take note of the difference in simple respect in this thread, per your op and maggies.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#51
You might take note of the disrespect in Maggie's OP towards another candidate
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#62
nothing said that is not glowing baout sanders is disrespect. yet, with clinton, it is analyzing.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#64
So are you still a Bernie supporter? As for this OP it is all about issues, maybe Hillary's
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#76
as maggies was about issues. no. i stopped being a sander supporter about the time
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#79
by the way. i see the primary as a time to learn, listen and feel out our candidates and
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#81
Bernie supporters don't stalk bernie supporters or hillary supporters for that matter. Your claim
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#99
i was discussing the issue of social and economic inequality sabrina. i was discussing his campaign
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#106
You stated you dropped your support for Bernie after Bernie supporters 'alert stalked' you.
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#115
we do not see eye to eye on this. different positions sabrina. i think i am right, you
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#223
i didnt go back to see her exact words. i have a reply to her that articulates exactly what i agree
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#233
your interpretation is incorrect which is likely when you need to tell yourself a
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#103
Series!!1!1!!! Lol. You tell duers who they really support regardless of what they say
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#217
People noted that tactic on DK also. I guess the aim was to get 'on the inside' and 'attack from
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#105
because supporters are not part of the problem with clinton and supporters are part of the problem
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#91
yes. of course she did. says a supporter that might of helped her be kicked off for her opinion.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#104
Summing this up, your single word is EXACTLY why I'm supporting Clinton, she's shown better...
George II
Aug 2015
#52
To me, modifying personal positions based on evidence and personal reflection is an asset...but that is me.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#61
Sorry, Bernie didn't modify his record, he didn't have to. He agreed to talk MORE
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#94
I am learning about Sanders, it is true I knew little, and the same with O'M, and I have no problem
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#109
We probably are reading from the same progressive book. And the downward tragectory
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#292
Then, I concede, there are others able to divine the inner intent and morals on all issues of those they have
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#112
Of course I do - as much as I hope Sanders has a similar epiphany about gun control and Israel.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#118
That's fine, but for those who suffered as a result of legislation Hillary didn't just
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#312
But around here Sanders' claim to fame has been that he hasn't changed in 40 years!
George II
Aug 2015
#265
Judgment and experience and a continuation of the yet to be written Obama Legacy, and the Big Dog again in the WH..what is there not to support?
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#124
Why I do not support Hillary Clinton. 145 recs and counting. Why I don't support Bernie
totodeinhere
Aug 2015
#122
If it were only DU you would have a point. This isn't back in the 'nineties, we have
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#259
Bernie is getting the same level of support on EVERY Liberal forum. This isn't the 'nineties or the
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#320
Up to 208. The other thread is stuck at 84. So my prediction was accurate. n/t
totodeinhere
Aug 2015
#249
Why cannot support Sanders; He is not Presidental material:He has never been test!
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#138
Sanders has never demonstrated leadership, 2 young women had him running from the stage
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#198
Why I will do everything in my power to make sure the next President is a Democrat
randys1
Aug 2015
#180
as a citizen of the planet first, her relationship with BC was always a killer for me
stupidicus
Aug 2015
#194
I want people that can evolve, that means they are thinkers with hearts, and not ideologues
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#219
Government is not a therapy session where people go to evolve. While they are evolving
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#251
What utter nonsense; know one runs Hillary, but Hillary: She is her own person! a Dem
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#215
Hillary could be very rich, if she wanted a job with Monsanto: She has chosen pubic ser
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#226
Hillary is not interested in money: if she wanted more she coud have ha Billion by now!
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#228
Shouldn't that be "Why I do not Support Hillary Clinton in the Primary"...nt
SidDithers
Aug 2015
#221
Thank you, he has been right on so many issues it's hard to put it all into one
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#307
Very good post. People have begun to asking the question you answered regarding what
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#319