2016 Postmortem

bjobotts

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287. Nonsense. Who ever wins the democratic nomination will be president

Tue Aug 18, 2015, 10:26 PM

Aug 2015

Obstruction will continue no matter which dem sits in the WH. I believe dems will retake the senate as so many repub seats are up for re-election. My 1st choice is Sanders or Hillary if she is nominated as she is 10 Xs better than any of these GOP clowns. The repubs will have a hard time electing anyone without cheating because they lack substance or solutions and are without character. They actually want a repeat of GWBush while denying his actions.
Scandinavian countries are socialist but the impressive FDR was a Democratic Socialist and that is the only form of government which both ensures our Freedom and our Survival by voting to come together to prevent profiteers from destroying our environment our economy and our planet. The employer of last resort which is composed of "We the people" who vote to fix our infrastructure rather than give subsidies to Exxon-Mobile etc etc etc. A democratic government bent on protecting it's people and their social welfare as in "For, By, and Of the people" is the very definition of Democratic Socialism. Bernie is the Man of the people just like FDR.

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Why I do not Support Hillary Clinton [View all] sabrina 1 Aug 2015 OP

Thank you for a very succinctly stated OP, Sabrina! K&R! Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #1

The issue that transcended all this concern about Clinton and Sanders is the congress. olegramps Aug 2015 #114

I have seen the electability question addressed time and again. Bubzer Aug 2015 #133

Just a fact Sanders with go down like Mcgoven if the Dem's let the far left wing take over lewebley3 Aug 2015 #157

It's not "a fact" it's your opinion. Many Republicans have expressed interest in voting rhett o rick Aug 2015 #168

The "far left wing" comments always make me shake my head in exasperation. Bubzer Aug 2015 #202

Sanders is very much like MCGovern, Dukkis, Dean, Kucinch, etc etc. lewebley3 Aug 2015 #205

None of the people you mention have had anywhere near the draw Bernie has had. Not even close. Bubzer Aug 2015 #210

What a wonderful complement to Sanders. Those are/were some great Democrats. How odd to see sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #290

I doubt you can provide anything that reasonably proves that a fact. Bubzer Aug 2015 #199

History! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #201

I really shouldn't have to point this out, but simply saying "History!" doesn't prove your point... Bubzer Aug 2015 #204

If one feeds a troll, navarth Aug 2015 #275

This one is on a self-imposed diet for a little while MoveIt Aug 2015 #277

Fair point. Bubzer Aug 2015 #289

Can you support Hillary over the 16 GOP clowns? bjobotts Aug 2015 #288

That's the only question...unless you are in a DU (Dem?) Primary Forum/Group duhneece Aug 2015 #301

So where does Hillary stand on the TPP? You know every Union in the country is sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #254

That sound like an intelligent talking point, brought up by the media, etc. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #280

Because our economy is just exactly like that of 1972, which was a high point in median-- eridani Aug 2015 #299

Bernie more than anyone, knows this. Which is why he repeats, over and over again, that sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #134

The importance of getting control of the congress is paramount. olegramps Aug 2015 #218

When you say the 'party' I guess you have answered your own question. Democrats shamefully sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #309

Your point about the Demo cats lack of courage is well taken. olegramps Aug 2015 #314

Yes, which is why the whole system needs changing and that is up to the people now. Our sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #315

Nonsense. Who ever wins the democratic nomination will be president bjobotts Aug 2015 #287

If Sanders is elected and the Republicans continue their control of congress .... AlbertCat Aug 2015 #305

This why I can support Hillary: She is the most quailfied and she is the most popular Dem! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #141

She is popular only because she has had decades in the spotlight, Bernie was a virtual unknown sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #149

Hillary is popular becasue of the Hard work she has done for Dem's and America lewebley3 Aug 2015 #154

That's a load, and you know it. anacodainfl Aug 2015 #156

Qualified for what? For fighting wars in the middle east? For capitulating to Goldman-Sachs. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #170

I do support Hillary and don't support Sanders: Hillary is the most quaified to serv and a Dem lewebley3 Aug 2015 #200

Good for you. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #211

Is DU representative of party or has it become an echo chamber? olegramps Aug 2015 #229

"I would better welcome a major increase... tazkcmo Aug 2015 #241

Bernie will not 'reach across the aisle' on issues that Republicans won't budge on, such as SS. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #256

bleep blorp frylock Aug 2015 #234

So do I. She's the best and most electable. juajen Aug 2015 #296

Well said. I stand with you. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2015 #2

more simply 'she is a corporatist' HFRN Aug 2015 #3

The Clinton foudation is a charity: Hillary is not a corporatist, GO Hillary GO lewebley3 Aug 2015 #142

she is good, her critics are bad nt HFRN Aug 2015 #167

Right? Bubzer Aug 2015 #208

When did Bernie Sanders have to make tough decisions? When did he have to consider the views of a Metric System Aug 2015 #4

You are clearly not familiar with his record. Both Hillary and Sanders served in the US Senate. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #7

And apparently she still has a lot yet to study about the TPP and TPA before taking solid stances... cascadiance Aug 2015 #24

Hillary has been many political fights: Sanders none: He lives in one party rule lewebley3 Aug 2015 #146

Derp! HappyMe Aug 2015 #250

They served only two years in the Senate together. merrily Aug 2015 #303

lol. if Vermont had been gung ho about war with Iraq cali Aug 2015 #9

if Vermont wasn't a progressive and pacifist stronghold, Sanders would never have been elected. bettyellen Aug 2015 #44

Bernie has shown good jugment because he makes decisions based on rock-solid JDPriestly Aug 2015 #70

thank you for your thoughtful reply. I rarely say anything because the usual responses have been bettyellen Aug 2015 #80

You are describing the corruption of our system. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #88

Except he doesn't have a narrow platform he has the broadest platform of sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #131

The characterization of "narrow platform" actually came from some old friends who have bettyellen Aug 2015 #136

Vermont is filled with good ol'boys, business people...ordinary people Armstead Aug 2015 #235

Sure, but it's still not actually diverse like most more populated states. bettyellen Aug 2015 #237

It doesnlt have large urban metrolpolises, true Armstead Aug 2015 #238

It's not just the density, but that's part of it. bettyellen Aug 2015 #255

New York is dfferent from Vermont: Bernie could never be a Senator of New York lewebley3 Aug 2015 #148

True. NY is a very large and mixed bag for sure. bettyellen Aug 2015 #159

Why? Armstead Aug 2015 #239

You guys really need to coordinate your stories better. jeff47 Aug 2015 #11

Yes, the endorsements question is one that ignores the facts as follows: cascadiance Aug 2015 #21

Thanks. Excellent posts. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #75

Excellent points, thank you! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #140

Coordinate? Oh, you think I work for Hillary's campaign or something? If so, where's my cheque?!? Metric System Aug 2015 #110

there are other words that are more fitting, but I suspect that ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #144

I suppose that would say more about you than me. Metric System Aug 2015 #214

Nope. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #232

No, you don't have to work for her campaign to coordinate. jeff47 Aug 2015 #264

Well, I haven't coordinated with anyone. Period. Metric System Aug 2015 #272

If Clintons win the Presidency: Happy Days lewebley3 Aug 2015 #150

... for the wealthy amongst us who will celebrate our move to corporate rule with her in charge... cascadiance Aug 2015 #155

I not wealthy I am progressive: I want a comptent fight with Hillary in charge: Go Hillary lewebley3 Aug 2015 #160

Good point TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #283

Bernie Sanders faced those very same tough decisions Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #43

Never, has Sanders had a tough decision: His Vermont 95 white liberal, and few interests lewebley3 Aug 2015 #152

Nonsense. Utter nonsense. Comparisons are one thing, another thing are these sweeping generalizations without meaning. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #153

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #242

I think your data may be suspect. zappaman Aug 2015 #252

So votes on IWR and USAPATRIOT weren't Hard Choices™? frylock Aug 2015 #65

It is interesting to me... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #72

Yeah "tough decision" is Bush-speak. nt sibelian Aug 2015 #84

It's hard work. frylock Aug 2015 #95

Hillary has been out in front leading the party: and taking risk and making difference lewebley3 Aug 2015 #162

huh... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #176

Sanders sat in the Senate: He's talker: There is nothing fresh air about Sanders: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #183

Uhm... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #187

Hillary is more progressive because she has actually gotten progressive things done! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #213

Hmm kenfrequed Aug 2015 #253

...shouldn't feed the trolls, friends navarth Aug 2015 #278

Sorry about that. kenfrequed Aug 2015 #298

I can't tell if that poster is satire dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #316

Yup, and it's crap. Agschmid Aug 2015 #244

Sen Sanders has been working hard with the Democrats. He has agreed with the Democratic majority rhett o rick Aug 2015 #189

Hillary has work for Dem's who are not the 99% and Serv email thing: Is just a GOP thing lewebley3 Aug 2015 #206

I agree completely. H. Clinton works for the 1%. The email thing was wrong. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #270

Honestly your posts are rediculous. Agschmid Aug 2015 #243

You are right: Sanders is not prepared to be President: I think the GOP are behind Sanders lewebley3 Aug 2015 #145

Sure thing... GoneOffShore Aug 2015 #295

I won't vote for her because she's just another ambitious politician seeking power at any cost. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #5

This is my opinion too although I also agree with the OP as well. Cleita Aug 2015 #19

Yep. Who even knows what she wants to DO with the presidency? Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #85

k&r cali Aug 2015 #6

She also exercised poor judgement in moving her emails to private servers... cascadiance Aug 2015 #8

5) It is absoutely fantastic fodder for attack ads. jeff47 Aug 2015 #13

She fantatistic fodder for attack ads: because she is a winner: Sanders is a loser lewebley3 Aug 2015 #163

No because she has a ton of baggage. The Republicans are looking forward to her running as rhett o rick Aug 2015 #174

Hillary is the cleanest poltiics out there today: She has been investigate by the GOP! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #177

The first thing Jeb will hit her with is, "Remember when the chips were down in 2002 rhett o rick Aug 2015 #178

Jeb's a loser: Bush made the choice for war not Hllary: The Clintons made a different choice lewebley3 Aug 2015 #184

So Hillary wasn't active as a Senator then and making that choice with the rest of the Senate then? cascadiance Aug 2015 #188

H. Clinton not only supported the war but helped sell the Republican lies. She should have told rhett o rick Aug 2015 #193

No Hillary didn't do anything selling of the war: Bush,Cheney and GOP did that: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #203

. Dragonfli Aug 2015 #260

ty Go Vols Aug 2015 #263

2008 demonstrated just how much of a winner she is. jeff47 Aug 2015 #266

It's Monty Python...The Argument Clinic... ms liberty Aug 2015 #286

LOL, you made me go and watch it dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #317

I admit I have paid little attention to this issue, mainly because I am suspicious of Republicans' sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #16

If emails were audio tape . . . Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #45

Truly great post. You should post it as an OP. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #77

...^ that 840high Aug 2015 #125

This Server story is a creation of the GOP and the New York times rag: Hillary has good judgement lewebley3 Aug 2015 #166

The Benghazi part IS a creation of the GOP, but SHE created the situation to allow this story... cascadiance Aug 2015 #171

#3...I have been wondering if anyone else saw this point... ms liberty Aug 2015 #282

And if the problems were what #3 discusses, then she missed an opportunity to show leadership! cascadiance Aug 2015 #294

+1 Zorra Aug 2015 #313

I won't support her because she stands for absolutely nothing except herself and her own ambition. TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #10

So true. 840high Aug 2015 #126

Hillary stands for the Dem party: but there nothing wrong with ambition, ambition is a good thing lewebley3 Aug 2015 #175

Did she or didn't she move government email to her own private servers? HUH? cascadiance Aug 2015 #185

It's more sexist to say that a woman can't be equally as self motivated as any man. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #291

Her poor judgment has been an ongoing problem and I will not spend another minute of my life Autumn Aug 2015 #12

I would rather vote for Sanders, too HassleCat Aug 2015 #14

That's entirely up to you. If you vote for one because it's all you had left, and you get 8 jtuck004 Aug 2015 #18

Maybe I'm asking it wrong HassleCat Aug 2015 #23

Don't have to envision anything. I just look at history and current events. People don't change jtuck004 Aug 2015 #56

I think we still have options. Eg, no matter who is in the WH, they cannot do much harm OR good sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #20

Depends on the political situation in your state and at the time. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #82

I agree artislife Aug 2015 #15

We have to work on Congressional elections also. The president, good or bad, cannot do much sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #25

I was pretty happy with my reps artislife Aug 2015 #28

I hate to be this way, but Murray and Cantwell both voted for NAFTA and for CAFTA and their TPP Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #34

Sanders people are always attack Dem's lewebley3 Aug 2015 #195

Wonderfully put JackInGreen Aug 2015 #17

oh my god! retrowire Aug 2015 #22

And Sabrina won't get locked out of her own thread MoveIt Aug 2015 #33

wait, the other user got locked out? why? n/t retrowire Aug 2015 #38

Got a well-deserved hide in that thread MoveIt Aug 2015 #47

No, no, no... Maedhros Aug 2015 #165

BIG K&R!!!!! -nt- 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #26

Thank you. This OP deserves 1,000 recs. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2015 #27

I totally agree... kjackson227 Aug 2015 #29

Sabrina, What I Find Interesting . . . Gamecock Lefty Aug 2015 #30

I am willing to BET that you are wrong about that. You are free to go to my journal sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #53

I agree regarding the Hillary camp ybbor Aug 2015 #78

Hillary supporters focus on her 30 years of leading the Dem party lewebley3 Aug 2015 #196

lol Go Vols Aug 2015 #262

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #190

k and r nashville_brook Aug 2015 #31

I'm with you! tinkerbelle Aug 2015 #32

K&R silverweb Aug 2015 #35

Those who question Bernie's status as a Democrat should recall what HRC said about PBO in '08 RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #36

Clinton and McCain VS Obama Oilwellian Aug 2015 #310

Fascinating stuff! Recommended viewing! Thanks so much for posting! RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #311

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Aug 2015 #37

You said it much more elegantly than I could, thanks. abakan Aug 2015 #39

Sabrina, you and I must have been twins switched at birth. closeupready Aug 2015 #40

well done! k and r bbgrunt Aug 2015 #41

Thank You For Sharing - I Share Your Sentiments cantbeserious Aug 2015 #42

Well said MissDeeds Aug 2015 #46

Like most Americans, regardless of partisanship, I. WANT. CHANGE. chknltl Aug 2015 #48

+1K Gigabear Aug 2015 #59

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2015 #74

Wow, what an intelligent post. Vattel Aug 2015 #49

If someone does not support Obama then of course the same one would not support Clinton! It is only natural. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #50

Not seeing how that works. sibelian Aug 2015 #57

I supported Obama for the same reasons I am now supporting Bernie. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #58

I do hope all of the current Party members support the current President and current Democratic Party leader, to be replaced on January 7, 2017 Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #60

Sanders doesn't support Obama lewebley3 Aug 2015 #191

Define "support" frylock Aug 2015 #71

Ask the OP writer first, it is her OP and word, not mine. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #73

Well, you're not in much of a position to declare who supports *anything* then, are you? sibelian Aug 2015 #83

You are not being clear. I did not mention Obama in the OP because he isn't running sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #87

You brought it up, that's why I asked you. frylock Aug 2015 #92

You are not making sense passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #137

you might take note of the difference in simple respect in this thread, per your op and maggies. seabeyond Aug 2015 #51

You might take note of the disrespect in Maggie's OP towards another candidate sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #62

nothing said that is not glowing baout sanders is disrespect. yet, with clinton, it is analyzing. seabeyond Aug 2015 #64

So are you still a Bernie supporter? As for this OP it is all about issues, maybe Hillary's sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #76

as maggies was about issues. no. i stopped being a sander supporter about the time seabeyond Aug 2015 #79

by the way. i see the primary as a time to learn, listen and feel out our candidates and seabeyond Aug 2015 #81

Bernie supporters don't stalk bernie supporters or hillary supporters for that matter. Your claim sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #99

i was discussing the issue of social and economic inequality sabrina. i was discussing his campaign seabeyond Aug 2015 #106

You stated you dropped your support for Bernie after Bernie supporters 'alert stalked' you. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #115

we do not see eye to eye on this. different positions sabrina. i think i am right, you seabeyond Aug 2015 #223

So you agree with Maggie LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #127

i didnt go back to see her exact words. i have a reply to her that articulates exactly what i agree seabeyond Aug 2015 #233

There are quite a few posters who have claimed to be Sanders supporters... demmiblue Aug 2015 #93

your interpretation is incorrect which is likely when you need to tell yourself a seabeyond Aug 2015 #103

Stop personally attacking me, seabeyond. demmiblue Aug 2015 #116

Series!!1!1!!! Lol. You tell duers who they really support regardless of what they say seabeyond Aug 2015 #217

People noted that tactic on DK also. I guess the aim was to get 'on the inside' and 'attack from sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #105

Yes, way too obvious. demmiblue Aug 2015 #111

You are right the GOP is using Sanders to attack Hillary lewebley3 Aug 2015 #192

Yawn demmiblue Aug 2015 #69

hardly ibegurpard Aug 2015 #90

because supporters are not part of the problem with clinton and supporters are part of the problem seabeyond Aug 2015 #91

Maggie brought it on herself ibegurpard Aug 2015 #101

yes. of course she did. says a supporter that might of helped her be kicked off for her opinion. seabeyond Aug 2015 #104

I rarely alert on people ibegurpard Aug 2015 #120

Jury results pintobean Aug 2015 #247

Now an unfounded personal attack on ibegurpard. demmiblue Aug 2015 #123

Jury results for this post PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #222

ty. so it begins. or began a couple days ago, lol. thanks. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #225

I have to disagree with you on this. aquamarina Aug 2015 #139

cute ;) seabeyond Aug 2015 #236

+1 Go Vols Aug 2015 #268

Summing this up, your single word is EXACTLY why I'm supporting Clinton, she's shown better... George II Aug 2015 #52

lolwut? n/t retrowire Aug 2015 #102

yeh that Iraq War vote was brilliant Armstead Aug 2015 #261

well I'll give Hillary this credit azurnoir Aug 2015 #297

"I cannot support anyone who has to evolve on major issues." 40RatRod Aug 2015 #54

To me, modifying personal positions based on evidence and personal reflection is an asset...but that is me. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #61

Sorry, Bernie didn't modify his record, he didn't have to. He agreed to talk MORE sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #94

I am learning about Sanders, it is true I knew little, and the same with O'M, and I have no problem Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #109

We probably are reading from the same progressive book. And the downward tragectory sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #292

However, modifying personal positions out of political expediency.. frylock Aug 2015 #98

Then, I concede, there are others able to divine the inner intent and morals on all issues of those they have Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #112

So you HONESTLY believe that Clinton, in her 60s, just had an epiphany.. frylock Aug 2015 #117

Of course I do - as much as I hope Sanders has a similar epiphany about gun control and Israel. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #118

Where do the candidates differ on the subject of Israel? frylock Aug 2015 #121

That's fine, but for those who suffered as a result of legislation Hillary didn't just sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #312

But around here Sanders' claim to fame has been that he hasn't changed in 40 years! George II Aug 2015 #265

Excellent. gregcrawford Aug 2015 #55

Yawn ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #63

awww, so you do care. Phlem Aug 2015 #68

K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R! Phlem Aug 2015 #66

Exactly kenfrequed Aug 2015 #67

Correct again! d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #86

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #89

Recommended. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author mckara Aug 2015 #97

You missed a word. "Why I do NOT support HRC." AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #100

You're Right! I misread It mckara Aug 2015 #107

no worries AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #119

"Judgement" is exactly why I DO support her. leftofcool Aug 2015 #108

Judgment and experience and a continuation of the yet to be written Obama Legacy, and the Big Dog again in the WH..what is there not to support? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #124

As always Sabrina, Paka Aug 2015 #113

Why I do not support Hillary Clinton. 145 recs and counting. Why I don't support Bernie totodeinhere Aug 2015 #122

the presidency of Dennis Kucinich..... predicted by this forum...... msanthrope Aug 2015 #128

Yes, they had us "pragamatically" move to John Edwards... cascadiance Aug 2015 #135

Whooooosh...... msanthrope Aug 2015 #172

None of his supporters show up? Sorry WRONG!! I'm an active PCP... cascadiance Aug 2015 #181

If it were only DU you would have a point. This isn't back in the 'nineties, we have sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #259

I am well aware of Dennis so I don't need any history lessons from you. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #248

Bernie is getting the same level of support on EVERY Liberal forum. This isn't the 'nineties or the sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #320

rec 154 840high Aug 2015 #130

Up to 208. The other thread is stuck at 84. So my prediction was accurate. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2015 #249

K&R SamKnause Aug 2015 #129

Iraq, Honduras, Libya, Syria MisterP Aug 2015 #132

Those alone should be sufficient. Maedhros Aug 2015 #169

Why cannot support Sanders; He is not Presidental material:He has never been test! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #138

He has passed the most important test of all. And that is what makes him sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #143

Sanders has never demonstrated leadership, 2 young women had him running from the stage lewebley3 Aug 2015 #198

nonsense. he's been tested. tested a lot more than Obama when he first ran. cali Aug 2015 #161

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #147

Man, you really are polite. daybranch Aug 2015 #151

I like the way sabrina synthesizes it down to judgement... cascadiance Aug 2015 #164

As well as supporting Bernie.... V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #158

Completely agree and floriduck Aug 2015 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #179

HRC will back he cabinet with Dem's! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #197

Why I will do everything in my power to make sure the next President is a Democrat randys1 Aug 2015 #180

Very simple. Helen Borg Aug 2015 #182

Bingo. CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #186

as a citizen of the planet first, her relationship with BC was always a killer for me stupidicus Aug 2015 #194

I cannot support anyone who has to evolve on major issues. Fred Friendlier Aug 2015 #207

I want people that can evolve, that means they are thinkers with hearts, and not ideologues lewebley3 Aug 2015 #219

Government is not a therapy session where people go to evolve. While they are evolving sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #251

I look forward to the reaction of many here YoungDemCA Aug 2015 #209

Here's another example of Hillary's poor RECENT judgement. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #212

What utter nonsense; know one runs Hillary, but Hillary: She is her own person! a Dem lewebley3 Aug 2015 #215

Spellchek is yur freind. robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #216

Go Hillary GO: lewebley3 Aug 2015 #220

Hillary could be very rich, if she wanted a job with Monsanto: She has chosen pubic ser lewebley3 Aug 2015 #226

Are you joke trollin' me?! robertpaulsen Aug 2015 #231

It takes one to know one. Or something. Helen Borg Aug 2015 #227

Hillary is not interested in money: if she wanted more she coud have ha Billion by now! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #228

Nobody can know another person's intentions. Helen Borg Aug 2015 #230

Shouldn't that be "Why I do not Support Hillary Clinton in the Primary"...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #221

But you see... Helen Borg Aug 2015 #224

No. LeftOfWest Aug 2015 #245

I like your sigline. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #246

With the exception of feminism, Hillary holds neither my values nor my ethics. senz Aug 2015 #240

The $250,000 speeches to Citibank/Canadian banks were also poor judgement Dems to Win Aug 2015 #257

K & R & +1 for pissing off all the right people. L0oniX Aug 2015 #258

Interesting. I'd say being pissed off and pissing others off seems to be bettyellen Aug 2015 #267

~ L0oniX Aug 2015 #269

I couldn't agree with you more, nor said it so well. Thanks. williesgirl Aug 2015 #271

Best post ever. LittleGirl Aug 2015 #273

Hillary's vote for the IWR was a deal breaker for me Martin Eden Aug 2015 #274

knr - I posted on Facebook Douglas Carpenter Aug 2015 #276

INCOMING!! n/t Still In Wisconsin Aug 2015 #279

This is the best summary I've seen! ozone_man Aug 2015 #281

K&R MoveIt Aug 2015 #284

K & R a million time! SoapBox Aug 2015 #285

Just be thankful.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #293

As usual you have inverted the truth values of what actually happened. MoveIt Aug 2015 #300

It's just another one of those "Look at me" threads leftofcool Aug 2015 #304

Sanders also voted no on Telecom Act of 1996, Gramm, Leach, Bliley. merrily Aug 2015 #302

Thank you, he has been right on so many issues it's hard to put it all into one sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #307

Distraction is certainly one way of many to describe it. merrily Aug 2015 #308

Well said. We cannot afford Clinton's "mind conservative" approach. DirkGently Aug 2015 #306

Very good post. People have begun to asking the question you answered regarding what sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #319

Rec # 304 Fumesucker Aug 2015 #318