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In reply to the discussion: Cornel West Backs Bernie Sanders [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)110. & this Black woman proudly next to you!
What of America? "We elected a black president and that means we are less racist now than we used to be. That's beautiful. But when you look at the prison industrial complex and the new Jim Crow: levels of massive unemployment and the decrepit unemployment system, indecent housing: white supremacy is still operating in the US, even with a brilliant black face in a high place called the White House. He is a brilliant, charismatic black brother. He's just too tied to Wall Street. And at this point he is a war criminal. You can't meet every Tuesday with a killer list and continually have drones drop bombs. You can do that once or twice and say: 'I shouldn't have done that, I've got to stop.' But when you do it month in, month out, year in, year out that's a pattern of behaviour. I think there is a chance of a snowball in hell that he will ever be tried, but I think he should be tried and I said the same about George Bush. These are war crimes. We suffer in this age from an indifference toward criminality and a callousness to catastrophe when it comes to poor and working people."
Can you not cut the president some slack, I ask? Think of what he faced. What did you expect? "I worked to get him elected," he says, almost indignant. "And I would do it again because the alternative was so much worse. But at the same time, I have to be able to tell the truth. I thought he was going to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal rather than a weak centrist. I thought he would actually move towards healthcare with a public option. I thought he was going to try to bail out homeowners as he bailed out banks. I thought he would try to hit the issue of poverty head-on."
He and Obama, the first-time candidate, talked. And then West attended 65 events drumming up support. "He talked about Martin Luther King over and over again as he ran. King died fighting not just against poverty but against carpet-bombing in Vietnam; the war crimes under Nixon and Kissinger. You can't just invoke Martin Luther King like that and not follow through on his priorities in some way. I knew he would have rightwing opposition, but he hasn't tried. When he came in, he brought in Wall Street-friendly people Tim Geithner, Larry Summers and made it clear he had no intention of bailing out homeowners, supporting trade unions. And he hasn't said a mumbling word about the institutions that have destroyed two generations of young black and brown youth, the new Jim Crow, the prison industrial complex. It's not about race. It is about commitment to justice. He should be able to say that in the last few years, with the shift from 300,000 inmates to 2.5 million today, there have been unjust polices and I intend to do all I can. Maybe he couldn't do that much. But at least tell the truth. I would rather have a white president fundamentally dedicated to eradicating poverty and enhancing the plight of working people than a black president tied to Wall Street and drones."
Unsurprisingly, he and team Obama no longer speak. "They say I'm un-American."
....
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/13/cornel-west-they-say-i-am-unamerican
Can you not cut the president some slack, I ask? Think of what he faced. What did you expect? "I worked to get him elected," he says, almost indignant. "And I would do it again because the alternative was so much worse. But at the same time, I have to be able to tell the truth. I thought he was going to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal rather than a weak centrist. I thought he would actually move towards healthcare with a public option. I thought he was going to try to bail out homeowners as he bailed out banks. I thought he would try to hit the issue of poverty head-on."
He and Obama, the first-time candidate, talked. And then West attended 65 events drumming up support. "He talked about Martin Luther King over and over again as he ran. King died fighting not just against poverty but against carpet-bombing in Vietnam; the war crimes under Nixon and Kissinger. You can't just invoke Martin Luther King like that and not follow through on his priorities in some way. I knew he would have rightwing opposition, but he hasn't tried. When he came in, he brought in Wall Street-friendly people Tim Geithner, Larry Summers and made it clear he had no intention of bailing out homeowners, supporting trade unions. And he hasn't said a mumbling word about the institutions that have destroyed two generations of young black and brown youth, the new Jim Crow, the prison industrial complex. It's not about race. It is about commitment to justice. He should be able to say that in the last few years, with the shift from 300,000 inmates to 2.5 million today, there have been unjust polices and I intend to do all I can. Maybe he couldn't do that much. But at least tell the truth. I would rather have a white president fundamentally dedicated to eradicating poverty and enhancing the plight of working people than a black president tied to Wall Street and drones."
Unsurprisingly, he and team Obama no longer speak. "They say I'm un-American."
....
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/13/cornel-west-they-say-i-am-unamerican
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Yes, please take cornel, bernie! The professor who's been in a one sided "pissing match.."
Cha
Aug 2015
#147
Alert stalking at its worst. Another failed attempt to silence an HRC supporter.
hrmjustin
Aug 2015
#22
The whole lesson we can learn here is not to let those who dislike us to silence us.
hrmjustin
Aug 2015
#31
that's bull and you know it. you get called out for a variety of reasons, zero of which have to do
dionysus
Aug 2015
#146
i get alert stalked as much as anyone here, maybe not you though, LOL. but you know you did just
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#184
This guy has been a bully for over a decade, in fact since I joined the site
nadinbrzezinski
Aug 2015
#185
I had no idea- but responding with such cruelty yourself is not helping you any.
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#186
It is not cruel for me to wish them to understand the pain they have caused
nadinbrzezinski
Aug 2015
#187
you hope they "not just beak you, but beak you hard" . and "a full nasty dose" is pretty cruel.
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#188
no-one is bullying you nadin, and i've been insulted many a time on DU without playing the
dionysus
Aug 2015
#202
i'd advise you to take nadin's tales of never-ending persecution with a grain of salt. let's say
dionysus
Aug 2015
#208
3M approximately equals 9 feet nadin. tengo carnales en cuidad de mexico, nadin. take your racism
dionysus
Aug 2015
#215
on the contrary, you relish the attention seeking. if you're jewish, how would i know? and even if
dionysus
Aug 2015
#224
do you think i keep track of your posts? i usually only come across the fantstical fabrtications...
dionysus
Aug 2015
#229
nadin loves to hide behind her "victim" status, while simultaneously posting crap like that.
dionysus
Aug 2015
#200
"And since I am sure you will need a translation" no nadin... anyhow, it's "bite", not "byte".
dionysus
Aug 2015
#210
you spelt rifle "riffle" for months on end, despite correction... see, your problem is that you
dionysus
Aug 2015
#226
I forget who it was, it took place about 6 weeks ago, and there was a big brouhaha...
George II
Aug 2015
#129
Thank you. As I said, it was a disgusting remark, and more disgusting that it didn't get hidden
George II
Aug 2015
#131
i recall one of the posters i am arguing with on this thread, who was trying to be "edgy", defended
dionysus
Aug 2015
#212
no, you wanted to be edgy and lecture DU on how whore is no longer gender specific, therefore was
dionysus
Aug 2015
#217
you give yourself far too much importance. if someone regularly makes up fantastical shit on a small
dionysus
Aug 2015
#220
Close to two decades? I hope the two of you were corresponding on another site, because...
George II
Aug 2015
#228
That's not the one I was referring to - the one in question was a reference to Clinton being....
George II
Aug 2015
#222
0-7 LEAVE! Juror #1 "You have got to be kidding. It's an opinion and people can call anyone names.
Cha
Aug 2015
#123
Wait a minute. The poster called West a clown may be offensive to someone here
underthematrix
Aug 2015
#28
He is not a clown, he is a self proclaimed non-Marxist socialist who believes in God, at least that
still_one
Aug 2015
#35
You are correct I misrepresented his position. He is a non-Marksist Socialist:
still_one
Aug 2015
#160
how dare you call the person who called President Obama the following.. “Rockefeller Republican in
Cha
Aug 2015
#122
Well, I was going to call him much worse but I thought I was being nice with clown.
leftofcool
Aug 2015
#125
Trying to be "nice".. ya see how far that got ya. lol But, it was a 0-7 LEAVE.. I like #Juror 1
Cha
Aug 2015
#126
Don't worry, she has James Carville campaigning for her in South Carolina...
AppalachianLeftist
Aug 2015
#11
Oh, I've noticed and that's put them on the wrong side of history. And, that's where they'll
Cha
Aug 2015
#154
Yep. AA community is not feeling Cornell West or his brother in Obama hate
underthematrix
Aug 2015
#54
Black folks know what's up. There will be few of us that will see this as a good thing
Number23
Aug 2015
#75
Cornel West on President Obama: “Rockefeller Republican in blackface.” "a niggerized black person."
Cha
Aug 2015
#121
yes he he did say you're correct here is the conversation -he was criticizing Obama for not
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#90
West is an extremely polarizing figure, and his disrespect for President Obama, and
still_one
Aug 2015
#44
No those aren't republican talking points, and they are not hateful or judge mental, I call it as
still_one
Aug 2015
#94
Sorry charlie, honest and caring people do not use racist terms to describe the President
leftofcool
Aug 2015
#112
I believe the task force released a report and implemetation has already
underthematrix
Aug 2015
#41
well that's nice, we've read the reports about officer routinely turning off those body cams
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#46
Sorry but iIMO the problem has grown to the point where those things enumerated outside of
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#95
Sigh, I'm starting to think this is some FUD here regarding BLM and Bernies supporters...
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#38
Who says he hasn't pressured the govs. President Obama does a lot of stuff
underthematrix
Aug 2015
#47
Excuse me?! Did you save that up so you could dump it on me? Talk about over the top.
haikugal
Aug 2015
#98
I know, just wanted to have a more complete answer of who was in the room
nadinbrzezinski
Aug 2015
#50
Then he should have said that instead of calling our President ugly racist names.
leftofcool
Aug 2015
#23
a radical out of the mainstream ivory tower type like West, go ahead, keep him
ericson00
Aug 2015
#74
Dr. West says some things I agree with, some I don't... just like pretty much every other
MerryBlooms
Aug 2015
#89
Cornell West's star faded a long time ago, about the time he went whacko bird on Obama.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#91
I couldn't help myself, I like Sanders... we have 4 kick ass candidates IMHO
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#192
Thank you, sometimes we need to look at race and gender and inequality, but ultimately ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2015
#133
The fact that you dislike MED elevates him significantly in my opinion. But never mind that
Number23
Aug 2015
#171
"Calling Obama a ‘global George Zimmerman’? No. No.”: Michael Eric Dyson sounds off on Cornel West,
Cha
Aug 2015
#132
Hillary supporters think black voices should only be listened to if it supports their agenda.
Bonobo
Aug 2015
#191
Nah, West has spewed ugly racist epithets at President Obama.. don't try to cover that up.
Cha
Aug 2015
#237
Yes. So sad that people don't tolerate a guy who called Obama the first niggerized president.
Drunken Irishman
Aug 2015
#233
Get it out there. Lots of whites love West and ignore his racist hate speech.
Drunken Irishman
Aug 2015
#239