2016 Postmortem

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36. Your question is all the answer you needed

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Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:31 AM

Aug 2015

your agenda is obvious and I am sure you could get some REAL answers in that other group.

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Explain to me why Hillary is not status quo [View all] tecelote Aug 2015 OP

Why? leftofcool Aug 2015 #1

Good answer. tecelote Aug 2015 #2

Hillary 2016----Because you don't want things to change artislife Aug 2015 #65

Yes, Hillary because...... reasons. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #83

Hillary is the best money can buy left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #3

Not just superpacs. 840high Aug 2015 #98

Explain to me why Sanders is not status quo. Or O'Malley, Webb, etc. Recursion Aug 2015 #4

Good argument. Why upset the apple cart. It's hopeless. tecelote Aug 2015 #5

It's only "hopeless" if your idea of "victory" means ending drug prohibition in the next decade Recursion Aug 2015 #6

Some great and progressive advances have happened. I'm far from hopeless. tecelote Aug 2015 #7

Why do you think upsetting the apple cart will make things better? Recursion Aug 2015 #8

Yes. The apples are not for you. tecelote Aug 2015 #11

Speaking of not rocking the boat Android3.14 Aug 2015 #19

Perfect answer, you win the internets today. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #40

That's why I support O'Malley Recursion Aug 2015 #69

If the apples are on the ground druidity33 Aug 2015 #34

Why do you think that "upsetting the apple cart" Stevepol Aug 2015 #39

Because I live in India Recursion Aug 2015 #68

You can wield that rhetorical cudgel at any time until we are reduced to India's poverty. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #77

India is moving up faster than the US is moving down Recursion Aug 2015 #81

How do you expect to "upset the applecart" with the Presidency of the United States? treestar Aug 2015 #10

So, your argument is to keep the status quo? tecelote Aug 2015 #12

No. Straw man. treestar Aug 2015 #13

Straw man. tecelote Aug 2015 #14

Your OP is better? treestar Aug 2015 #16

Bernie recognizes this, that's why he has stated many times that he will need a Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #15

Very general treestar Aug 2015 #18

Creepy authoritarianism. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #20

The apple cart I want to see upset is the accceptance of bad GOP policy by Democrats Armstead Aug 2015 #21

+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #61

You will not be able to elect enough Democrats who don't owe their Donors a quid pro quo. Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #24

Preserve order? Like FDR did? Like Johnson did? Like Lincoln did? How about Washington? A Simple Game Aug 2015 #42

FDR etc had a congress treestar Aug 2015 #45

They aren't convinced? Maybe that's why you talk to them and let them know why A Simple Game Aug 2015 #52

FDR did not always have a congress that agreed with him - but he had jwirr Aug 2015 #105

I know two Democratic presidents who "upset the applecart" at least to jwirr Aug 2015 #104

Why would you think Bernie would keep us at war? Ken Burch Aug 2015 #110

Because wars don't end unilaterally (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #111

They do if you just bring YOUR country's troops home. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #112

Which Sanders would not do Recursion Aug 2015 #113

Oh come on now...we aren't OBLIGATED to keep troops there forever. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #114

Of course she's status quo. That's the definition of Third Way. jalan48 Aug 2015 #9

Read her policy proposals. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #17

Maybe he should release policy proposals. Maybe he's shooting from the hip. tecelote Aug 2015 #22

How can one shake up the status quo without policy? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #28

This all may be true. tecelote Aug 2015 #32

And the national polls are strongly suggesting that ... DrBulldog Aug 2015 #23

Bernie doesn't have to catch lightning in a bottle! RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #38

the National polls ibegurpard Aug 2015 #53

This thread is, chock-a-block, full of rubbish arguments. longship Aug 2015 #25

That sounds like you will let the winning candidate decide what your political views are. -none Aug 2015 #31

What is the main problem with the country? longship Aug 2015 #33

Minutiae? ibegurpard Aug 2015 #48

Yes, minutia. longship Aug 2015 #60

What is sounds like is that we should accept the inevitable candidate jwirr Aug 2015 #106

No, I would be against that. longship Aug 2015 #115

You are correct in that one political party has gone off the deep end. -none Aug 2015 #58

You seem very good at lecturing us on how we should think and feel, Maedhros Aug 2015 #73

Well, since I am on ignore, I guess no substantive response is required. longship Aug 2015 #75

She is not status quo...she is regressive ibegurpard Aug 2015 #26

I want to support Hillary because I am afraid she is going to win the primaries. tecelote Aug 2015 #27

What privatization or safety nets? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #29

we have her support of welfare "reform" on record ibegurpard Aug 2015 #41

And we have Bernie's yes vote on 1994 crime bill. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #44

"work is preferable to welfare" ibegurpard Aug 2015 #50

Yeah, regulating Wall Street, college affordability, climate action, SonderWoman Aug 2015 #67

Work makes you free Fairgo Aug 2015 #107

Folks misuse "status quo" and have amnesia about the positive that has happened in the last 7 years? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #30

Are you talking about the massive redistribution ibegurpard Aug 2015 #46

Republicans are indeed dancing for joy in the streets and hailing a great leader, what Obama has done for them. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #47

Rockefeller Republicans are ibegurpard Aug 2015 #51

You mentioned something? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #54

yes ibegurpard Aug 2015 #55

Nope, nothing else in the armory..... Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #56

yep I figured ibegurpard Aug 2015 #70

Thanks for your replies in this thread. You're spot on all over the place! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #84

The status quo is white men Onlooker Aug 2015 #35

The "status quo" was a white person, being a man, and occupying the White House! Like, duh! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #49

The status quo is Corporations and the politicians they bribe. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #78

....x10 840high Aug 2015 #101

Your question is all the answer you needed MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #36

Hillary is not status quo RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #37

Status quo to the Third Wayers boils down to race and gender.. frylock Aug 2015 #85

Man DonaldChump Aug 2015 #116

Bigtime status quo SHRED Aug 2015 #43

Just how does tearing down a Democratic candidate raise another? longship Aug 2015 #63

It's the primaries SHRED Aug 2015 #71

That chart has no information whatsoever in it. longship Aug 2015 #87

Look again SHRED Aug 2015 #88

Yes, I saw that. longship Aug 2015 #94

How is posting the candidates past votes "tearing down a Democratic candidate"? frylock Aug 2015 #86

she's been terrible on H-1b visa and outsourcing of tech HFRN Aug 2015 #57

She is truly an enemy of the American worker jfern Aug 2015 #119

I don't think she views herself as an enemy of the American worker HFRN Aug 2015 #121

A Clinton presidency, like a republican presidency, means business as usual. Zorra Aug 2015 #59

+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #66

Very well put. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #74

What you said. Perfect. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #79

+1000~! n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #89

Yep +1 840high Aug 2015 #102

+1 DonaldChump Aug 2015 #117

Right or wrong, the country is pretty much "status quo." That is why Sanders has little chance. Hoyt Aug 2015 #62

As a donor, I'm delighted to know that Clinton is beholden to me... brooklynite Aug 2015 #64

Status quo. Politics-as-usual. Establishment candidate. All seem to fit her. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #72

because she's actually worse than status quo? HFRN Aug 2015 #76

bingo ibegurpard Aug 2015 #100

Her supporters are overwhelmingly of the "economic conservative, socially liberal" variety. Romulox Aug 2015 #80

She is status quo, so no one can explain why she is not. So expect a lot of distractions from the sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #82

Every candidate this go around will be status quo. Unless you can provide me lists of GOP House stevenleser Aug 2015 #90

You're right. Why fight for anything then. tecelote Aug 2015 #91

Oh we're fighting for something. Preventing a Republican President from rolling back ACA, harming stevenleser Aug 2015 #92

I'm prepared to be disappointed. tecelote Aug 2015 #93

It's not going to happen now no matter which person is nominated. stevenleser Aug 2015 #95

I sure hope you're wrong. tecelote Aug 2015 #96

I'm not wrong. Check it out for yourself. We 'won' the popular vote in the House in 2012 and stevenleser Aug 2015 #97

You have a strong point and I see why you're skeptical. tecelote Aug 2015 #99

Can a multimillionaire really understand moondust Aug 2015 #103

Hillary will never get any vote from me. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #108

The current staus quo is a Democrat in the White House postatomic Aug 2015 #109

You're allowed to go back and edit your subject line, though. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #120

Lets see jfern Aug 2015 #118