2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:07 PM Aug 2015

Those who critique our party from the left aren't "bashing it". [View all]

They are simply calling on us, as people AND as a party, to be our best selves. To learn from the past and not to repeat the mistakes of the past.

We SHOULD be a party committed to never doing anything in the world that looks like imperialism...a party that fights for the needs of ordinary people, not corporations...a party that never compromises anyone's human rights, at home OR abroad...a party that fights crime by fighting the causes of crime, not solely through brute force and executions.

Is that too much to ask?

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Those who critique our party from the left aren't "bashing it". [View all] Ken Burch Aug 2015 OP

You just bashed our party! And "from the left" I presume, by implying our party has none of those traits! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #1

Nicely said 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #2

You know the answer PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #3

If it's too much to ask...it's not too much to demand, then. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #6

I like that. Fairgo Aug 2015 #15

It's all yours. It comes from the soul of the people. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #16

Thank you Ken... AOR Aug 2015 #4

+1 short circuit Aug 2015 #5

Those who repeat any right wing smear that they think may stick are. spyker29 Aug 2015 #7

None of whom are the people I'm talking about. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #10

Stock answer with no validity. Maedhros Aug 2015 #13

Critiquing is great. But some have absorbed right-wing dissatisfaction and attitudes. Not Hortensis Aug 2015 #8

Yet that isn't the kind of critique I'm talking about, and I think you know that. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #14

Ken, we agree on what we SHOULD be calling for. At least our generations have the past to look to, Hortensis Aug 2015 #36

Yes, for some people... Armstead Aug 2015 #9

More like trying to get it back to when it was flourishing in membership AND accomplishments Doctor_J Aug 2015 #11

I guess values are too much to ask for these days Hydra Aug 2015 #12

Lots of people are afraid of change passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #17

There was always divisions. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #18

Many of us that criticize from the left are old enough to remember what the party used to be. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #19

from the eyes of an independent or another party? ya. they are. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #20

No. They aren't. They are simply fighting for justice. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #21

not at the expense of our party, and that is what i and others are seeing. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #22

"the party" is not more important than justice and equality for the people. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #23

oh my lord.... looking around at democratic underground, a progressive board. seabeyond Aug 2015 #25

Yes, he is a mere man. Bernie's campaign also represents a movement for change. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #27

That sounds "sexist" ! John Poet Aug 2015 #35

Some care more about party loyalty than the people it's failing beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #24

some of us care more about getting a damn dem in to keep the damn reugs out for the SAKE of lives. seabeyond Aug 2015 #26

We ALL care about that. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #28

Bullshit. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #29

Thank you for clearing that up postatomic Aug 2015 #30

I wish it wasn't (too much to ask) w0nderer Aug 2015 #31

We are supposed to scrutinize the party, its policies, and its candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #32

Wonderful quote, thanks - eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #39

K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #33

I don't believe it's too much to ask. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #34

Ignorance and the power of labels. Garrett78 Aug 2015 #37

K&R Scuba Aug 2015 #38

You started off well but One of the 99 Aug 2015 #40

Our party will only be as good as we make it. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #41