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Cha

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182. President Obama and Hillary Clinton are the most admired Man and Woman in the World..

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:56 PM

Aug 2015

I'm not shocked that the US "media"/AKA/rw goPropaganda big lie machine has managed to bring down Hillary's "favorability" as the front runner. But, that will change.

Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton Extend Run as Most Admired

http://www.gallup.com/poll/180365/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-extend-run-admired.aspx

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HRC, The "Shrinking Violet" of the Democratic Party [View all] NanceGreggs Aug 2015 OP

Thank you, NanceGreggs! Suich Aug 2015 #1

Key problem: 99% national recognition name, high unfavorability/trustworthiness Cherry Creek Native Aug 2015 #2

78% of Dems support her, over 200 Congressional super delegates, leftofcool Aug 2015 #4

She turned me ito a newt!... LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #6

Most admired woman in the world. Again. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #7

Not likely with HRC. If we wanted a repukelite we would vote for one. peacebird Aug 2015 #88

HRC is more progressive than FDR. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #106

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How in the world could Hillary possibly be more "progressive" than FDR? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #161

Not sure she can be. But FDR was not the FDR we know at this point. He came to office without Hortensis Aug 2015 #186

Say what? left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #3

You Are Correct Of Course... She Just Needs To Be Protected From Herself And Her Advisors... WillyT Aug 2015 #5

So why isn't she with O'Malley and Sanders in calling for more and earlier debates? Armstead Aug 2015 #8

That's a good question. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #53

Here's a logical reason why DFW Aug 2015 #142

Fair enough, but why the exclusivity clause? AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #143

I haven't been following thos whole thing closely enough DFW Aug 2015 #175

Thou shalt not bore thine audience. okasha Aug 2015 #78

She is afraid of debating Bernie and Martin peacebird Aug 2015 #91

LOL. That's silly. okasha Aug 2015 #103

Oh, absolutely. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #135

... KMOD Aug 2015 #138

Hell, they always ask her the question first, and everyone else says "Yeah, what she said." nt MADem Aug 2015 #153

You betcha! nt kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #101

See 103. okasha Aug 2015 #107

Thy bored audience can watch The Bachelor or something Armstead Aug 2015 #144

And probably will. okasha Aug 2015 #146

And you don't think people deserve the choice? Armstead Aug 2015 #149

Because she and the DNC and the RNC all learned their lessons from 2008 and 2012. stevenleser Aug 2015 #139

She has the lead. Its not ludicrous to think that she and her supporters might protect that lead. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #9

But it IS ludicrous to think ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #12

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Why? So they can ask her about Vince Foster, emails, etal? leftofcool Aug 2015 #58

"Bernie NEEDS the exposure." NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #63

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And he'll have his opportunity to do so. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #82

Once again, it's not the amount, it's the DNC's exclusivity clause frylock Aug 2015 #87

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Yes it is. leftofcool Aug 2015 #80

That's exactly what it's about. okasha Aug 2015 #97

That is exactly right. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #102

Not everyone is so cynical Armstead Aug 2015 #151

I don't really know what the rationale for the limit on debates might be, or why Clinton Vattel Aug 2015 #66

"always excelled" - maybe not. Often excelled. Sure. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #68

And what she said after that was exactly on point. okasha Aug 2015 #116

Yes, she did follow-up well, but you may recall debate moments are captured in soundbites. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #159

Which begs the question...Why isn't she wanting more debates? Armstead Aug 2015 #150

Then why doesn't Hillary pick up the phone and call Debbie Wasserman Schultz? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #10

Maybe because the scheduled number of debates ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #15

Sufficient for whom? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #35

...+1 840high Aug 2015 #49

Of course. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #54

Avoiding tough questions is Hillary's forte, for good reasons 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #113

I'm into facts ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #117

Since you like facts, here's one for you .. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #162

Along with all of the other nonsense ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #164

It depends on who's money, for what purpose 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #168

According to DU ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #173

There are issues specific to a region that are not important to the nation as a whole... Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #36

I don't like just 6 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #39

26. But only 6 or 7 were DNC debates. The rest were regional debates and not all candidates Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #42

OK, yes .. I agree. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #46

The other candidates think otherwise and protest the exclusivity. They (that is ALL 4 other candidates) Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #40

Well, then ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #45

They are, by calling the DNC out on this bullshit. frylock Aug 2015 #90

Fine by me. n/t NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #98

Of course, the Party would forthwith okasha Aug 2015 #121

Not for me. I want more and I want them to start now. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #70

I love the hypocracy here Armstead Aug 2015 #148

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #11

And to think, despite all that most American voters don't like her leveymg Aug 2015 #13

Most Americans don't like her? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #16

... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #26

That one got hung right over the plate for you. wilsonbooks Aug 2015 #29

Tater. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #43

Hoist on her own petard. wilsonbooks Aug 2015 #84

.. frylock Aug 2015 #95

I realize that the infamous "favourability rating" ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #50

Thank you. 840high Aug 2015 #51

Slip sliding away! pocoloco Aug 2015 #73

HRC negatives are 60 perc. among Independents who are most voters leveymg Aug 2015 #31

I am a lifelong Democrat in a democratic leaning state (CA) land I can honestly say Live and Learn Aug 2015 #74

In Los Angeles, I know quite a few Hillary supporters. zappaman Aug 2015 #177

President Obama and Hillary Clinton are the most admired Man and Woman in the World.. Cha Aug 2015 #182

Cool! She's the awesomest of the awesome. We get that. I'm still voting for Bernie Sanders. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #14

That's peachy. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #17

"All of this to say that Hillary Clinton is..." cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #20

There was a ot that followed ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #28

Nnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #41

And that was dimissive, pretentious and untrue. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #79

The OP was about ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #96

I don't think anyone here has ever said she was a 'shrinking violet'. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #115

There isn't a politician alive ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #122

I was never looking for perfection just honest, sound decisions that affect us all. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #127

The "nobody knows the other guys" meme ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #132

On you maybe, but that doesn't make it any the less true. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #137

Bingo! peacebird Aug 2015 #93

K&R mcar Aug 2015 #18

K & R KMOD Aug 2015 #19

I don't understand kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #21

Do you really believe ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #30

What is your theory kcjohn1 Aug 2015 #37

I was hoping to hear her theory. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #64

+1 leftofcool Aug 2015 #59

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If you're dissatisfied with the debate schedule ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #69

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Believe me, her supporters are VERY confident. leftofcool Aug 2015 #83

Believe me, her supporters are oVERlY confident. frylock Aug 2015 #112

"Her support is already collapsing" ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #109

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According to who? n/t NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #125

And yet, she still leads Sanders by double digits in all states but one. leftofcool Aug 2015 #147

What is Hillary's position on having more debates, as Sanders and O'Malley have lobbied for? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #76

Don't know, don't care. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #114

Yeah that's what I would say as well. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #119

That is personality politics RobertEarl Aug 2015 #22

Bernie has been consistent in sticking to the issues. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #27

I've pointed out the facts here. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #38

I'd like to hear from Ms. Clinton whether or not she agrees with the exclusivity rule. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #48

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She'll give that answer once she's been elected. frylock Aug 2015 #174

Sorry Nance RobertEarl Aug 2015 #55

The OP had nothing to do ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #60

KnR, NanceGreggs. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #23

Very well put together, and very well stated. I like and support Hillary Clinton. That doesn't make NBachers Aug 2015 #24

K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #25

Some great writing Nance. William769 Aug 2015 #32

Thanks for this post, Nance! K&R! DeepModem Mom Aug 2015 #33

K & R, very well stated Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #34

Excellent post! Kath1 Aug 2015 #44

Six debates is not enough. HRC could change Indepatriot Aug 2015 #47

Six National debates are just fine. The problem is the exclusivity rule which states thus: Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #52

I think that very few voters actually watch debates, KMOD Aug 2015 #62

Well then, if you thinks so, I guess that settles it. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #85

You are a political junkie. You are not the average voter. KMOD Aug 2015 #94

I think O'Malley would benefit a lot from more debates too. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #105

Everybody I know, knows who Bernie is, KMOD Aug 2015 #108

New Yorkers are generally pretty well informed. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #120

lololol KMOD Aug 2015 #123

Damn scary is what it is. Here I am trying to educate and they Live and Learn Aug 2015 #130

Hey, the good news is, KMOD Aug 2015 #133

I know, right? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #140

Link? Control-Z Aug 2015 #145

Heres one of many bunnies Aug 2015 #163

This part: Control-Z Aug 2015 #165

ooooh. Got ya. bunnies Aug 2015 #166

Thanks. Control-Z Aug 2015 #169

No. I cant imagine a special "Hillary clause" either. bunnies Aug 2015 #171

Hillary is one tough cookie. No doubt about it oasis Aug 2015 #56

Cookie strikes me as a bit sexist but nobody has ever said she wasn't tough. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #89

Tough IS what I look for in a president. I 'm sure oasis Aug 2015 #110

Then you should look to Bernie because he stands tough on issues even when others Live and Learn Aug 2015 #118

If Bernie were President right now, I'd be okay with it. oasis Aug 2015 #128

Actually, I said 'intends to vote for', which is a bit different. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #136

I'm happy to read this. Thank you for the thoroughgoing reminder of her endurance. nt ancianita Aug 2015 #65

It's always about the story of Hillary's life and not the issues. fbc Aug 2015 #71

+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #104

If you think this OP ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #129

Isn't it about her mother's life now? MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #131

Someone's trying to undo you manny.... JackInGreen Aug 2015 #156

Jeez, they're just phoning it in now MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #157

She's being protected by Washington establishment aka DNC 4dsc Aug 2015 #75

Hillary doesn't need protection. leftofcool Aug 2015 #86

One, but Hillary is hoping to keep her inevitability meme going until mid october peacebird Aug 2015 #100

Anything more than 6 debates is a joke you mean. It's best to learn from history. stevenleser Aug 2015 #141

"undisputed front-runner" Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #81

AND boring ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #99

A tribute: MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #124

Brilliantly said, Nance! maddiemom Aug 2015 #126

Tell it like it is! nt MADem Aug 2015 #152

... artislife Aug 2015 #154

K&R. How very true rpannier Aug 2015 #155

K&R treestar Aug 2015 #158

Very good points. She has truly been tried by fire, and has MineralMan Aug 2015 #160

Best OP I've read in ages. NT anamnua Aug 2015 #167

Great post Gothmog Aug 2015 #170

The OP is prima facie sexist Android3.14 Aug 2015 #176

Seriously? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #178

That's not what the OP said. Android3.14 Aug 2015 #184

You might want to brush up ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #188

Workin' on those skills every day Android3.14 Aug 2015 #189

Just because you say you "haven't run across a single poster who implies that" doesn't make it so. Cha Aug 2015 #179

Point out the plethora of postings that do this Android3.14 Aug 2015 #181

I don't have to prove anything to you.. but, there's one example on this thread.. Cha Aug 2015 #183

Work for me! zappaman Aug 2015 #185

Yeah, being ordered around by a BS supporter always works for me, zappa. You? Cha Aug 2015 #194

The post says nothing about her being a woman Android3.14 Aug 2015 #187

The OP said nothing about ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #191

Then what is the point of the OP? Android3.14 Aug 2015 #192

Try actually READING ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #195

Mahalo Nance.. I've seen you reply several times to posters who were saying this in reference Cha Aug 2015 #180

Well, she sure needed protection from herself in 2008. Vattel Aug 2015 #190

You DO remember how close she came ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #193

Yes, I remember how close she came, and I wasn't pretending it wasn't a hard-won victory in 2008, Vattel Aug 2015 #197

Thank you! ellisonz Aug 2015 #196