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Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
228. THIS is the MOST important thing EVERYONE here should remember....
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 07:31 PM
Aug 2015

This race is for the primaries. Not the presidency. Silly, right? Why should I think you've forgotten that? And yet, it seems you have. Stop a moment and think. Let's take this thread for an example. Imagine that Sanders wins the primary. Hooray! But now he has to win the presidency. I know it seems like he'll do that easily. How could the majority possibly vote for his GOP opponent rather than him? He's got it in the bag....except you can't rely on that. Gore proved that to us. You can't take the chance. You have to campaign for him—big time. Bigger and harder and longer than you are now, because the GOP will do any dirty trick to keep democratic voters from voting.

Wouldn't it be nice if all those Hilary supporters shook your hand, said "We're sorry Hilary lost, but we congratulate you and we're here to help"? That would be nice, would't it. Exactly how many of the Hilary supporters here do you think are likely to do that given how you're treating her and them right now, in this thread?

That's the important point. Is what you're saying true? Yes. Is it a fact? Yes. Have you the freedom to trash Hilary on all her bad decisions and votes? Sure, just as Hilary supporters have the freedom to trash Sanders on his bad decisions and votes. But posts saying "Hilary voted for Iraq!" will just get you posts of "Bernie voted for guns!" And neither will make the other side back down or change their minds. So all you're doing is alienating fellow democrats. That doesn't sound real useful.

The presidential election is what matters. You know how HUGELY it matters. Supreme court justices, civil rights, women's rights, restoring the middle class, getting most of America out of this downward spiral to poverty. We have to think of what we all want, REALLY want in 2016...which is a democratic president.

So, I'm going to ask you all to try something. Next time you want to get into fight with someone from the other side, assume your candidate is going to win. You don't have to say one bad thing about the other candidate for this to happen. It's a given. Your candidate is going to be in the race for president. Just try it. Now try this as well: treat those on the other side as if they are going to gracefully accept defeat and help your candidate become president. Do you still want argue? This is a race is for the primaries. Not the presidency. Don't alienate your fellow democrats. You ARE going to need them in 2016.

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it's newsspeak. And k&r cali Aug 2015 #1
This is funny because of the lack of self-awareness on display. Metric System Aug 2015 #2
yes, on display by du Hillary supporters. cali Aug 2015 #3
Right. I guess the parade of nasty Hillary threads are all in my imagination. I'm sure one of your Metric System Aug 2015 #5
Here, maybe you can help the Hillary supporters in this thread jeff47 Aug 2015 #8
I never made that claim and I never heard of it. It's not my job to back up the claims made by a Metric System Aug 2015 #11
You don't seem to hold Sanders supporters to that same standard jeff47 Aug 2015 #15
Don'tcha know? RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #147
Yet you expect us to do the same thing with Bernie's supporters. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #23
No I don't. Where did I call on Sanders supporters to police each other? Metric System Aug 2015 #51
My bad, you just referred to "nasty" threads made by them while ignoring the ones from HC supporters beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #52
Well, you're complaining about nasty threads to people who did not make them... jeff47 Aug 2015 #55
No..just to point and deflect... artislife Aug 2015 #71
Right because "Anything that Sticks" is your motto MoveIt Aug 2015 #133
What is your job? morningfog Aug 2015 #143
Wow that was a remarkable piece of crap. zeemike Aug 2015 #61
And 19 people rec'd it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #76
29 now. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #229
If I was a HC supporter I wouldn't want a thread like that on the greatest. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #230
agree -- *sigh* -- it is already such a long campaign season. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #235
Even an OP that was hidden for blatant anti-Semitism got a rec. merrily Aug 2015 #278
Yep. Anti-Semitism is perfectly acceptable to some people on DU. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #280
Not to mention those with links to blatantly snipped/altered videos of her! George II Aug 2015 #32
How do you feel about calling Bernie a racist and using the Yiddish n-word? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38
That OP reeks of antisemitism. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #87
They should have been banned, imo. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #88
I totally agree. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #90
If a Bernie supporter had used a racist slur do you think they'd still be here? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #91
Absolutely, they would be gone in a blink of an eye. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #94
yap yap yap AnAzulTexas Aug 2015 #41
Somebody called her Lady MacBeth in a headband Demeter Aug 2015 #204
I have seen no posts from any of those people. Maedhros Aug 2015 #42
Probably because they've been locked Metric System Aug 2015 #49
Probably because they don't exist, and you're just making shit up. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #59
Gee, thanks. But I have truth on my side. Metric System Aug 2015 #75
If you had any evidence of your assertion, you would have provided it. Maedhros Aug 2015 #78
Here's the evidence you asked for... Metric System Aug 2015 #137
Here's my take... Maedhros Aug 2015 #148
Typical Sanders supporter wanting an echo chamber. If I put everyone who makes stuff up about Metric System Aug 2015 #162
^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2015 #80
+1000 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #89
Nice Job.. busterbrown Aug 2015 #97
That's the thing about evolving. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #104
So why is she the best bet in the general, with zero appeal to the 63%? n/t eridani Aug 2015 #117
Tell me....Please busterbrown Aug 2015 #119
Unfortunately, no one cares to poll disaffected voters--the 63% of those eligible-- eridani Aug 2015 #121
I thought so.. busterbrown Aug 2015 #140
You're not helping yourself. FYI: McCain lost to Obama. merrily Aug 2015 #152
Link Please.. busterbrown Aug 2015 #159
Deflect much? merrily Aug 2015 #163
Is that all you got? n/t busterbrown Aug 2015 #180
The disaffected voters self-organizing to support Sanders USED TO BE ignorant eridani Aug 2015 #272
That's rich from the poster who changed the subject. Flail much? merrily Aug 2015 #279
The polls, see the latest PPP poll, are now showing that Sanders is doing better against Repubs, sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #286
That's hilarious. merrily Aug 2015 #150
So how much evolving is allowed? JoeyT Aug 2015 #206
Let me respond to you by asking.. busterbrown Aug 2015 #213
Or we could just do it this way: JoeyT Aug 2015 #256
Um... AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #168
But, but H. Clinton did turn her back on Democrats and not only supported the I-War, rhett o rick Aug 2015 #217
I've seen far too many Sanders supporters say they'd happily support Biden, even though he too voted Metric System Aug 2015 #221
I doubt you've seen many Sanders supporters say they will support Biden. I won't. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #225
The parade of nasty Hillary threads is rather amply populated with sibelian Aug 2015 #323
Amazing lack of awareness at that MaggieD Aug 2015 #30
There was a new guy/gal who just got MIRTED LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #283
Dont know about you but i cant WAIT for President Walker, lets see how many he wants randys1 Aug 2015 #301
The charge is not contrarianism. sibelian Aug 2015 #324
The inversion of logic is stupid, but even more so... Bonobo Aug 2015 #4
All I see is dart-throwing at Democrats. Metric System Aug 2015 #6
You are in GD: P where posts about Republican candidates are not allowed. Bonobo Aug 2015 #13
Yes, I've noticed that.... daleanime Aug 2015 #17
That's because you think that those that supported the Republicans are actually Democrats. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #226
His vote to make gun manufacturers virtually immune from lawsuits dsc Aug 2015 #7
They already were immune. jeff47 Aug 2015 #14
right they spent millions of dollars to get immunity from suits that they already were immune from dsc Aug 2015 #18
They'd still be a pain in the ass, even though they'd win 100% of them. jeff47 Aug 2015 #25
Of course the manufacturers had nothing to do with this dsc Aug 2015 #28
If you want to stop the dealers, go after the dealers. jeff47 Aug 2015 #50
+1 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #93
Newsflash the tobacco company paid billions dsc Aug 2015 #122
And that brought all their victims back to life and sent them out of business!!! jeff47 Aug 2015 #127
Smoking has declined immensely since those lawsuits dsc Aug 2015 #178
No, that decline started before people found the evidence to win those lawsuits. jeff47 Aug 2015 #193
Sanders votes for rational bills, not pie in the sky bills passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #27
The fact that a lot of Dems own guns is not part of the equation ...I guess. L0oniX Aug 2015 #82
Sanders voted for background checks and an assault weapons ban: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #33
His ratings from the NRA have ranged from D- to F. merrily Aug 2015 #153
Now they're trying to say she HAD to vote for the Iraq war. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #201
Every level of government buys their guns madville Aug 2015 #34
It's moronic to believe they would not be replaced by other manufacturers jeff47 Aug 2015 #62
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the OP is about the Iraq War, not some gun bill. merrily Aug 2015 #155
Yep, I'm aware. I'm also pointing out their deflection is pants-on-fire lying. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #158
IOW, just like the rare non-deflection. merrily Aug 2015 #164
yeah black and brown lives just a deflection dsc Aug 2015 #179
Right, because if you can insert "balck and brown lives" into any topic, why then it proves LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #294
I disagree with Sanders vote on that, but in the larger scheme of things.... Armstead Aug 2015 #129
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #9
....but Bernie okasha Aug 2015 #10
Yes, that is exactly the same as voting to invade. jeff47 Aug 2015 #16
Wrong. It's worse. okasha Aug 2015 #19
Yeah, no. It's a vote to keep paying the people that actually truebrit71 Aug 2015 #22
+1000 sheshe2 Aug 2015 #24
On what planet is feeding soldiers in a war zone worse than sending them there? jeff47 Aug 2015 #26
No kidding. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #35
Amen! DemByDefault Aug 2015 #37
"twisted friggen logic" bvar22 Aug 2015 #200
Ain't THAT the truth. hifiguy Aug 2015 #46
Do you really think that those bills okasha Aug 2015 #63
Do you really think they didn't appropriate any lunch money? jeff47 Aug 2015 #66
Oh, bullshit. okasha Aug 2015 #69
Yeah, because threatening starvation is the best way to make up for your candidate's lousy vote. jeff47 Aug 2015 #126
Still bullshit. okasha Aug 2015 #172
"Nuh-uh!!!" does not change what you are doing. jeff47 Aug 2015 #194
You're flailing away at yourself. okasha Aug 2015 #238
Also, the MIC in this country has to be our greatest jobs program. You just don't pull the rug out Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #118
Wow, you're entitled to that opinion but dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #214
I'm not saying I like it. I'm just saying that there needs to be a plan to replace those jobs. You Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #218
OK I get it but defunding the MIC is an urgent priority to me dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #224
I don't support it as a jobs program. I'm saying it IS a jobs program whether we like it or not. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #219
And it keeps getting vomited forth over and over and over and over again. kath Aug 2015 #85
Baloney. Once the vote puts troops in harm's way, voting against funding is merrily Aug 2015 #157
okasha. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #21
Hillary opposed limiting cluster bombs: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #39
Deflection attempt. Fail. okasha Aug 2015 #67
Weren't we discussing war? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #68
See post 63. okasha Aug 2015 #70
Bernie voted against them, nice try. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #73
+1000 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #95
Better luck tomorrow. frylock Aug 2015 #186
LMFAO ...keep trying. L0oniX Aug 2015 #84
Orwell was not only a great author but a regular prophet. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #12
"To see what is directly in front of hifiguy Aug 2015 #45
Nice! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #48
Thank you, Manny. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #20
Can you explain why peace loving Bernie supports.. MaggieD Aug 2015 #29
Can you explain why Hillary voted against an amendment which would have cut funding for those djean111 Aug 2015 #47
I believe it was because.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #58
Can you explain why civil rights touting Hillary supports the death penalty? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #54
She supporters restricting it MaggieD Aug 2015 #64
She only supports killing certain prisoners. Wonderful. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #65
Goold old-fashioned Pork Barrel Politics Armstead Aug 2015 #181
Why can't you be good and get with the program, like Third-Way Manny? (nt) a2liberal Aug 2015 #31
×1 Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #40
More Bernie good - Hillary bad Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #36
Right. Bernie supporters never repeat insane rightwing lies to support their candidate. pnwmom Aug 2015 #74
Did anyone actually say that or are you just making up shit? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #77
+1 "making shit up" L0oniX Aug 2015 #86
She believes quoting the state department spokesman is lying. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #128
Oy. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #211
Jesus, Manny, there you go again! hifiguy Aug 2015 #43
Amen. n/t progree Aug 2015 #44
I've read here multiple times that Bernie is a "gun nut" and Hillary hates guns and gun violence. pa28 Aug 2015 #53
Hillary supports the 2nd Amendment. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #56
Donl;t conguse me with reality Armstead Aug 2015 #130
Black and white thinking is easier than reality. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #202
Well said. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #57
She also voted for war with Iran (Kyl-Lieberman) jfern Aug 2015 #60
"if the only way to make your preferred candidate seem palatable is to make up insane nonsense" pnwmom Aug 2015 #72
Was there a point to this post? Chicago1980 Aug 2015 #79
It is after a thread like this artislife Aug 2015 #81
Who cares about those hundreds of thousands or well over a million displaced people ... slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #83
Waiting to hear Bernie is too much of a peacenik. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #92
Plus a million Manny! SoapBox Aug 2015 #96
Kickin' and Reccin' BeanMusical Aug 2015 #98
Everyone, please, pay attention. This is one of the most important OPs ever on DU. Zorra Aug 2015 #99
+1000 MissDeeds Aug 2015 #135
Damn tootin!!! nt hifiguy Aug 2015 #210
33,000 gun deaths a year. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #100
Good thing all of the candidates are pro-gun control then, eh? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #101
33,000 gun deaths a year. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #102
Not about the victims of the Iraq war - including the dead and maimed children? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #105
Or are you just deflecting from 33,000 gun deaths a year? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #106
You're bringing up guns in a thread about the victims of the Iraq war. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #107
Huh? Nothing in the op even mentions the Iraq War... SonderWoman Aug 2015 #108
What war do you think they were talking about? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #109
Haha! Please, just put me on ignore. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #110
No. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #111
Who posts a Republican ad against Bernie calling him a pedophile protector?: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #114
But don't you see? Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #124
Now she's trying to say it was just a news report, so what if they called him a pedophile? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #199
Isn't it time for you to post another pedophile smear against Bernie? LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #296
And Bernie Sanders is in favor of that? Armstead Aug 2015 #132
Bernie's no more of a gun humper than Hillary is a warmonger. DanTex Aug 2015 #103
Kicked for Manny tblue Aug 2015 #112
Her vote for the killing was an act of either Monumental Stupidity or cold blooded expediency. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #113
it was 'expediency' navarth Aug 2015 #131
3rd Possibility: Martin Eden Aug 2015 #139
That is indeed, the crux of the biscuit...... Indepatriot Aug 2015 #170
I'm the opposite, the wicked can repent but you can't fix stupid. TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #276
Yes. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #115
you know damn well that if Hillary rejected corporate funds marym625 Aug 2015 #116
Well said and can't be said often or loud enough! + 1 million Live and Learn Aug 2015 #120
Mostly this tactic isn't one that individuals just stumble on Babel_17 Aug 2015 #123
Lying only makes it worse for those who care about truth PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #125
As the Senator of New York - the State hit hardest by 9/11 - it was her DUTY to vote BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #134
So, like, hundreds of thousands of innocent people get slaughtered, but Clinton's Zorra Aug 2015 #138
You're missing the point. As Senator of New York the vote WAS the right thing to do. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #141
Sadly, I'm not the one missing the point here. Zorra Aug 2015 #144
We'll agree to disagree. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #145
Thank you for a most enlightening discussion. Zorra Aug 2015 #151
You're welcome. eom BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #156
"Policial realities" mean you have to vote to slaughter innocent people because otherwise you LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #297
It certainly achieves that MoveIt Aug 2015 #215
I was a constituent and I knew better Babel_17 Aug 2015 #197
And you know you were in the minority, the minority who saw through the lies. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #239
It was her DUTY to vote AGANIST the IWR Martin Eden Aug 2015 #149
Wrong. Again, as Junior Senator of NEW YORK where the largest attack on American soil BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #154
"it was her job to do as her constituents wanted - and they wanted retribution" Martin Eden Aug 2015 #169
Nothing quite like sanctioning a wrongheaded genocidal lynch mob Zorra Aug 2015 #171
Well, Americans tend to see red and get blood thirsty when hit. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #269
Americans get blood thirsty? So the fuck what? LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #295
You mean these constituents? Oilwellian Aug 2015 #319
Nice picture. Are they really New Yorkers? Polls showed that the country wanted the invasion. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #328
"THEN WHY IN HELL DID SHE VOTE TO GO TO WAR AGAINST IRAQ???" BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #262
Your answer: New Yorkers wanted retribution for the atrocity of 9/11 Martin Eden Aug 2015 #282
I choose 3) MoveIt Aug 2015 #285
Your response: "Perhaps you don't understand the concept of retribution." BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #312
If so, then New Yorkers should be absolutely furious at Hillary Clinton Martin Eden Aug 2015 #321
And they were. Hence losing to Barack Obama. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #325
Support for the invasion was based on LIES. Martin Eden Aug 2015 #327
Yes, it was. But it was sold as the truth and the country bought it. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #329
"politicians are pushed to serve their constituents" Martin Eden Aug 2015 #330
What part of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 are you struggling to grasp? frylock Aug 2015 #188
Wow. So Hillary was seeking vengeance for NYers? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #212
This whole Puglover Aug 2015 #288
I need to walk away more often. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #289
Nope far from ignorance. Puglover Aug 2015 #292
Take me with you. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #293
Was it also VP Biden's duty? I'm asking because I've seen some Sanders supporters act less hostile Metric System Aug 2015 #222
Yes, and it was John Kerry's duty as well. Martin Eden Aug 2015 #249
At least you're consistent across candidates. Metric System Aug 2015 #253
In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place. Gandhi Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #184
Half of New York's Congressional Democrats voted against war MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #185
And the other half voted FOR the Iraq War Resolution. Your point? BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #263
SPOILER ALERT: Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 frylock Aug 2015 #187
SPOILER ALERT! Hindsight is 20/20. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #267
quit pissing on the graves of those who lost their lives by using 9/11 as an excuse.. frylock Aug 2015 #291
Naw. That's what you've been doing to excuse your support for a weak candidate by stepping BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #302
You're making excuses for Clinton's terrible vote, but I'm a detriment to Sanders' campaign.. frylock Aug 2015 #303
Yes, Bernie Sanders supporters are particularly obnoxious and angry. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #305
I'm shoked that establishment dems are supporting the establishment candidate.. frylock Aug 2015 #306
You shouldn't be. I could've told you as much in January that they'll stand with a BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #309
Remaining open-minded about supporting needless wars? frylock Aug 2015 #313
Being open-minded to variables that lead up to a decision, and trying to understand them BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #317
It was her duty to vote to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? jeff47 Aug 2015 #195
She didn't invade a country. And she didn't murder a million Iraqis. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #266
No, her vote just made that possible. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #274
No, she voted to send others to do so, and heavily lobbied jeff47 Aug 2015 #290
Hyperbole much? So typical. Even without her vote, the IWR was poised to go through. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #304
Wow that's some grade A bullshit, because she was junior she had to vote for war... MoveIt Aug 2015 #220
Naw. It's called POLITICAL REALITY. I'm sorry you don't appear to understand BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #265
If that's all you got is one liner about "political reality" then you've conceded MoveIt Aug 2015 #284
And if "that's some grade A bullshit" is all you've got, then *you've* conceded. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #307
more name calling MoveIt Aug 2015 #308
You misunderstand. It wasn't "name-calling". BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #310
Do you post these witty replies with or without a monocle? MoveIt Aug 2015 #311
Without. eom BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #314
Probably best MoveIt Aug 2015 #316
Actually, I have surprisingly great eye-sight. But common sense and rational thinking need no BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #318
this isn't the first time I've seen this excuse before and it's gotta be the worst one. neverforget Aug 2015 #259
It's not an excuse. It's called reality at that time. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #264
It's an excuse for poor judgement. And yes, I am prejudiced on this issue: Iraq was wrong neverforget Aug 2015 #268
But more importantly ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #270
Nope. It was what her constituents wanted at that time, and she gave them what they wanted. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #271
Yep TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #273
One of the best posts ever on DU MissDeeds Aug 2015 #136
Hill's Shills have no decency. morningfog Aug 2015 #142
I now have a whole new perspective on what I could not bring myself Zorra Aug 2015 #166
A consciousness MoveIt Aug 2015 #216
Or integrity LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #298
Wow! Another anti-Hillary, pro-Bernie Thread! Who Knew? Gamecock Lefty Aug 2015 #146
You're bragging about something that is nothing to brag about. merrily Aug 2015 #161
I don't think I have ever read a post of yours that exhibits this much anger. merrily Aug 2015 #160
Correct, as always MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #233
At what cost to American and Iraqi lives, limbs, minds and treasure does a LEADER merrily Aug 2015 #275
This is the same strategy employed by the Republicans n2doc Aug 2015 #165
k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #167
While some are still so concerned about the Iraq war we still have war and gun violence in out Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #173
Strawman posts which are attempts to derail this thread will be noted, and will fail. Zorra Aug 2015 #174
Facts are facts, dwell on the history of gun violence. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #176
Sanders is in favor of gun control. Perhaps not as strict as some would want. Armstead Aug 2015 #183
He voted against the Brady Bill for one. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #190
To repeat. If that's a make or break issue, there are other candidates. Armstead Aug 2015 #191
Yes there are other candidates, thanks for pointing this out, I am happy to Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #192
Yet... Oilwellian Aug 2015 #320
And he voted for the AWB and limits on magazine sizes and universal background checks and... jeff47 Aug 2015 #196
I give a shit about his voting record, who knows where he Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #198
Do you know where Hillary will be on the next war bill? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #208
She will not reward based on an $18,000 donation to defeat ber opponent. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #209
You owe me a new irony meter MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #231
Truth speaks for itself, records are kept for reasons, all Congressional members records are for Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #232
More American's Die From Guns vs All Wars Since 1968 otohara Aug 2015 #175
Thanks for kicking thread with a strawman. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #177
Bernie supporters: "A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy Zorra Aug 2015 #182
K&R (nt) :) Babel_17 Aug 2015 #203
Chilling out a bit might keep everyone saner ... it is only August 2015 ... NotHardly Aug 2015 #189
WOW. Another innane bit of red meat for the Bernie types. Persondem Aug 2015 #205
Pick up your head, open your eyes, and look around. GitRDun Aug 2015 #207
i agree. i'm a bernie supporter, but DesertFlower Aug 2015 #223
Remember, Kerry got Swift Boated HassleCat Aug 2015 #227
THIS is the MOST important thing EVERYONE here should remember.... Moonwalk Aug 2015 #228
^^^^^Great post^^^^^^ ... Thank you. nt. Persondem Aug 2015 #234
The system is set up to favor the establishment's anointed candidate Babel_17 Aug 2015 #236
I'm so glad you raised the topic ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #237
I'm sorry. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #240
No, you're not. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #242
A REC is a REC? Looks like someone has REC envy. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #243
Oh, yes, of course. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #245
Do you want a lot of attention? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #247
Yes Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #277
Word. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #281
Bingo LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #299
I agree with you Nance Andy823 Aug 2015 #244
I said I'd never vote for Hillary? MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #246
Hey sport Andy823 Aug 2015 #287
I think most people would understand your post MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #300
No Andy823 Aug 2015 #322
Remind us... who was Kerry running against MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #326
The irony being displayed on DU of late ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #250
Seems like my attempt at rapprochement has failed. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #248
oh Manny! marym625 Aug 2015 #251
Iyay inkthay eshay'say onyay otay emay. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #257
EXACTLY! marym625 Aug 2015 #260
It seems that your posting ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #252
So your claim is that DU is filled with cretins, MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #254
My observation was that your posting ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #255
I believe that there was a bit more ornamentation hung on your claim. MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #258
I "claimed" nothing. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #261
+1,000,000 DerekG Aug 2015 #241
Just another POV One of the 99 Aug 2015 #315
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