2016 Postmortem

sadoldgirl

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16. She certainly has the ambition, but

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:58 PM

Sep 2015

there is more to it. Let's forget for a moment all
her admirers, and look at what is happening to
the country, and who wants to keep the status quo.

Those are the powers pushing and supporting her.
When the repugs quietly say they would be satisfied
with either HRC or Jebbie, then you know, who and
what is pulling the strings behind the scenes, imo.

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I Took A Lot Of Heat Here When I Suggested HRC Should Enjoy Her Grandkid, Wealth, Etc... [View all] WillyT Sep 2015 OP

It takes a special person to be president. Apparently you need to be willing to sacrifice every PatrickforO Sep 2015 #1

Ambition is a strange force, my dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #2

I used to say, "anyone who badly wants to be a police officer probably shouldn't be one". HappyPlace Sep 2015 #3

I feel about the same. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #67

The desire for power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #4

This. +1. It is an incurable fever of the brain. nt hifiguy Sep 2015 #99

She wants to keep working and serving. No one told Carter to go enjoy his grandkids. MADem Sep 2015 #5

She Has Served... WillyT Sep 2015 #10

Well, golly, now I'm all confused. I thought since she was "just the wife" that all that work she MADem Sep 2015 #19

She is not done. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #46

+1,000! nt MADem Sep 2015 #58

LOL MADem. senz Sep 2015 #70

I'm not the one who wanted her to go all "Aunt Bea" over the kid, mind you. MADem Sep 2015 #74

No, I can't imagine her doing it either. senz Sep 2015 #75

+1 SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #84

Yep, Bernie is OLDER and he has MORE GRANDCHILDREN. MADem Sep 2015 #91

Well if it makes ya feel any better she doesn't appear to be enjoying it herself tularetom Sep 2015 #6

But That's My Point... Why ??? WillyT Sep 2015 #9

Somebody keeps pushing her? tularetom Sep 2015 #11

Yes, like a good woman she does what her husband tells her. zappaman Sep 2015 #13

Bill Clilnton always said she was the smarter of the two. I rather doubt he "pushes" her to do MADem Sep 2015 #24

omg! wendylaroux Sep 2015 #17

Bill's Re-election...No one mentions what role he will play as the "First Man" KoKo Sep 2015 #28

Looking back on all of Bill's "accomplishments" hifiguy Sep 2015 #100

This is true. I think she'd rather dispense w/the campaign and just "be president." senz Sep 2015 #72

It's fascinating what one "hears". OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #93

Ah. So if any unflattering talk was untrue, then all unflattering talk is untrue? senz Sep 2015 #95

Well, THAT "unflattering talk" is a fabrication. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #97

For someone as reluctant as you imagine she is, she sure has a full schedule. MADem Sep 2015 #92

Keep clinging to the IT guy! The story's going to break wide open soon!!! Metric System Sep 2015 #7

Well Andy823 Sep 2015 #8

Clinton is 67, Biden 72, Bernie 73. There really isn't much difference in age there. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #53

So they should all retire? Thor_MN Sep 2015 #71

Why is Bernard Hopkins still boxing at 50? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #12

Clearly, he's a power mad megalomaniac who loves getting punched? freshwest Sep 2015 #78

You do not get it? I agree. Full stop. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #14

it is sexist. did you say the same about ted kennedy ? JI7 Sep 2015 #15

Like I Said... It's About Ambition... And I Don't Get It... WillyT Sep 2015 #18

anyone who runs for president is ambitious so why do you only have a pRoblem with hillary ? JI7 Sep 2015 #20

Of Course You Are Correct... But She Has Served As First Lady, Senator, SoS... WillyT Sep 2015 #22

And with all the hell she's gone through already BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #39

And that woman you were claiming to support, Senator Warren is a very wealthy woman. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #47

Thank you. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #69

I think the point is about the bull she has to put up jwirr Sep 2015 #21

That's Kinda Where I've Landed... But I Still Don't Get It... WillyT Sep 2015 #23

Oops should have read down a bit further before I posted! BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #43

Robert Byrd. Strom Thurmond. MADem Sep 2015 #26

She certainly has the ambition, but sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #16

+10 840high Sep 2015 #30

You could say the very same things about Senator Sanders. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #25

Awww, but he's in the boy's club, doncha know!!! MADem Sep 2015 #27

I cannot disagree. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #34

Right on the money. nt MADem Sep 2015 #36

Nailed it. Agschmid Sep 2015 #42

No you can't say the same thing about Bernie in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #31

I can, and I did. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #32

Allow me to piggyback on your comment. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #52

the Clintons ushered in a cottage industry of media opportunism bigtree Sep 2015 #90

If Warren had run I doubt Sanders would have. hifiguy Sep 2015 #101

Bernie? "every Senator looks in the mirror in the morning and sees a President. Yawn..." nt msongs Sep 2015 #29

Bernie Did Not Want It... He Said He Would Only Do It With Grassroots Support... I Think... WillyT Sep 2015 #33

No one decides to run for President if they don't want it. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #35

True... I Assumed... And You Know What Happens Then... WillyT Sep 2015 #38

Thanks for the response Willy. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #61

Do you include Trump in that? sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #41

Trump had to run rpannier Sep 2015 #57

I don't care about Trump. he's not part of this conversation. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #60

Of course he wants it. Agschmid Sep 2015 #44

It's pretty obvious, and if I am right, a sad thing Hydra Sep 2015 #37

So, if you disagree seriously with sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #45

No, I personally don't think so Hydra Sep 2015 #63

Still kind of ist, imho. demmiblue Sep 2015 #40

Well, WillyT... sheshe2 Sep 2015 #48

Not happy with one foot in mouth MyNameGoesHere Sep 2015 #49

Indeed your critique has a tinge of sexism bluestateguy Sep 2015 #50

Yeh, you're right. You totally don't get it. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #51

Yeah Willy, you don't get it because you have a willy! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #54

She wants to go down in history as the first woman president. tblue37 Sep 2015 #55

Perhaps, it's not your understanding of "ambition"; but rather, ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #56

Well, sheshe2 Sep 2015 #79

It's her calling. That's what you don't get. oasis Sep 2015 #59

Have a theory about her zentrum Sep 2015 #62

It's not a bad theory Hydra Sep 2015 #65

Oh right. zentrum Sep 2015 #68

What happened to all the PUMAs? Are they still out there? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #64

Willy sheshe2 Sep 2015 #66

Uh oh. Now you got me wondering what he's doing. senz Sep 2015 #73

Addiction meet power. Power meet addiction. leveymg Sep 2015 #76

She has explained it many times. lovemydog Sep 2015 #77

Why are you saying Hillary needs to go home and play with her granddaughter? This is a problem Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #80

Some people simply can't wrap their head around the fact that women can be ambitious. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #81

There is no dignity in being a quitter DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #82

Tedious. nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #83

Bernie is rich, has been in govt 30 years, and has grand kids too. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #85

"Bernie is rich" LMFAO ...and then there are facts. L0oniX Sep 2015 #86

LOL. $330,000 year is RICH. Yes, it is. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #88

$330,000 is his net worth not his yearly questionseverything Sep 2015 #103

Yer wasting your keyboard. Some people will never accept the facts. L0oniX Sep 2015 #105

Bernie makes $175,000 a year...not a working class amount brooklynite Sep 2015 #107

And yet he has spent his entire life fighting for the working class. senz Sep 2015 #109

Yeah he's a regular at 940 Park Ave. L0oniX Sep 2015 #104

she should just stay home and bake cookies? bigtree Sep 2015 #87

Ambitious women are so silly. Its just makes no sense! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #89

Most of us love Elizabeth Warren & wanted her to run. senz Sep 2015 #94

Yet men rarely get criticised for daring to WANT to be President. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #96

Do you hear such criticisms of Carly Fiorina? senz Sep 2015 #108

The OP speaks of wealth and grandchildren, Warren is also a multi millionaire with 3 grandkids. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #106

She has been running for POTUS non-stop for 15 years. hifiguy Sep 2015 #98

History. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #102