2016 Postmortem

sadoldgirl

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45. So, if you disagree seriously with

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:53 PM

Sep 2015

her policies, we still should vote for her because
of her gender?
I don't mind a strong woman, but certainly one,
who is supporting illegal wars.

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I Took A Lot Of Heat Here When I Suggested HRC Should Enjoy Her Grandkid, Wealth, Etc... [View all] WillyT Sep 2015 OP

It takes a special person to be president. Apparently you need to be willing to sacrifice every PatrickforO Sep 2015 #1

Ambition is a strange force, my dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #2

I used to say, "anyone who badly wants to be a police officer probably shouldn't be one". HappyPlace Sep 2015 #3

I feel about the same. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #67

The desire for power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #4

This. +1. It is an incurable fever of the brain. nt hifiguy Sep 2015 #99

She wants to keep working and serving. No one told Carter to go enjoy his grandkids. MADem Sep 2015 #5

She Has Served... WillyT Sep 2015 #10

Well, golly, now I'm all confused. I thought since she was "just the wife" that all that work she MADem Sep 2015 #19

She is not done. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #46

+1,000! nt MADem Sep 2015 #58

LOL MADem. senz Sep 2015 #70

I'm not the one who wanted her to go all "Aunt Bea" over the kid, mind you. MADem Sep 2015 #74

No, I can't imagine her doing it either. senz Sep 2015 #75

+1 SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #84

Yep, Bernie is OLDER and he has MORE GRANDCHILDREN. MADem Sep 2015 #91

Well if it makes ya feel any better she doesn't appear to be enjoying it herself tularetom Sep 2015 #6

But That's My Point... Why ??? WillyT Sep 2015 #9

Somebody keeps pushing her? tularetom Sep 2015 #11

Yes, like a good woman she does what her husband tells her. zappaman Sep 2015 #13

Bill Clilnton always said she was the smarter of the two. I rather doubt he "pushes" her to do MADem Sep 2015 #24

omg! wendylaroux Sep 2015 #17

Bill's Re-election...No one mentions what role he will play as the "First Man" KoKo Sep 2015 #28

Looking back on all of Bill's "accomplishments" hifiguy Sep 2015 #100

This is true. I think she'd rather dispense w/the campaign and just "be president." senz Sep 2015 #72

It's fascinating what one "hears". OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #93

Ah. So if any unflattering talk was untrue, then all unflattering talk is untrue? senz Sep 2015 #95

Well, THAT "unflattering talk" is a fabrication. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #97

For someone as reluctant as you imagine she is, she sure has a full schedule. MADem Sep 2015 #92

Keep clinging to the IT guy! The story's going to break wide open soon!!! Metric System Sep 2015 #7

Well Andy823 Sep 2015 #8

Clinton is 67, Biden 72, Bernie 73. There really isn't much difference in age there. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #53

So they should all retire? Thor_MN Sep 2015 #71

Why is Bernard Hopkins still boxing at 50? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #12

Clearly, he's a power mad megalomaniac who loves getting punched? freshwest Sep 2015 #78

You do not get it? I agree. Full stop. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #14

it is sexist. did you say the same about ted kennedy ? JI7 Sep 2015 #15

Like I Said... It's About Ambition... And I Don't Get It... WillyT Sep 2015 #18

anyone who runs for president is ambitious so why do you only have a pRoblem with hillary ? JI7 Sep 2015 #20

Of Course You Are Correct... But She Has Served As First Lady, Senator, SoS... WillyT Sep 2015 #22

And with all the hell she's gone through already BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #39

And that woman you were claiming to support, Senator Warren is a very wealthy woman. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #47

Thank you. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #69

I think the point is about the bull she has to put up jwirr Sep 2015 #21

That's Kinda Where I've Landed... But I Still Don't Get It... WillyT Sep 2015 #23

Oops should have read down a bit further before I posted! BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #43

Robert Byrd. Strom Thurmond. MADem Sep 2015 #26

She certainly has the ambition, but sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #16

+10 840high Sep 2015 #30

You could say the very same things about Senator Sanders. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #25

Awww, but he's in the boy's club, doncha know!!! MADem Sep 2015 #27

I cannot disagree. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #34

Right on the money. nt MADem Sep 2015 #36

Nailed it. Agschmid Sep 2015 #42

No you can't say the same thing about Bernie in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #31

I can, and I did. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #32

Allow me to piggyback on your comment. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #52

the Clintons ushered in a cottage industry of media opportunism bigtree Sep 2015 #90

If Warren had run I doubt Sanders would have. hifiguy Sep 2015 #101

Bernie? "every Senator looks in the mirror in the morning and sees a President. Yawn..." nt msongs Sep 2015 #29

Bernie Did Not Want It... He Said He Would Only Do It With Grassroots Support... I Think... WillyT Sep 2015 #33

No one decides to run for President if they don't want it. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #35

True... I Assumed... And You Know What Happens Then... WillyT Sep 2015 #38

Thanks for the response Willy. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #61

Do you include Trump in that? sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #41

Trump had to run rpannier Sep 2015 #57

I don't care about Trump. he's not part of this conversation. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #60

Of course he wants it. Agschmid Sep 2015 #44

It's pretty obvious, and if I am right, a sad thing Hydra Sep 2015 #37

So, if you disagree seriously with sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #45

No, I personally don't think so Hydra Sep 2015 #63

Still kind of ist, imho. demmiblue Sep 2015 #40

Well, WillyT... sheshe2 Sep 2015 #48

Not happy with one foot in mouth MyNameGoesHere Sep 2015 #49

Indeed your critique has a tinge of sexism bluestateguy Sep 2015 #50

Yeh, you're right. You totally don't get it. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #51

Yeah Willy, you don't get it because you have a willy! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #54

She wants to go down in history as the first woman president. tblue37 Sep 2015 #55

Perhaps, it's not your understanding of "ambition"; but rather, ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #56

Well, sheshe2 Sep 2015 #79

It's her calling. That's what you don't get. oasis Sep 2015 #59

Have a theory about her zentrum Sep 2015 #62

It's not a bad theory Hydra Sep 2015 #65

Oh right. zentrum Sep 2015 #68

What happened to all the PUMAs? Are they still out there? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #64

Willy sheshe2 Sep 2015 #66

Uh oh. Now you got me wondering what he's doing. senz Sep 2015 #73

Addiction meet power. Power meet addiction. leveymg Sep 2015 #76

She has explained it many times. lovemydog Sep 2015 #77

Why are you saying Hillary needs to go home and play with her granddaughter? This is a problem Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #80

Some people simply can't wrap their head around the fact that women can be ambitious. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #81

There is no dignity in being a quitter DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #82

Tedious. nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #83

Bernie is rich, has been in govt 30 years, and has grand kids too. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #85

"Bernie is rich" LMFAO ...and then there are facts. L0oniX Sep 2015 #86

LOL. $330,000 year is RICH. Yes, it is. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #88

$330,000 is his net worth not his yearly questionseverything Sep 2015 #103

Yer wasting your keyboard. Some people will never accept the facts. L0oniX Sep 2015 #105

Bernie makes $175,000 a year...not a working class amount brooklynite Sep 2015 #107

And yet he has spent his entire life fighting for the working class. senz Sep 2015 #109

Yeah he's a regular at 940 Park Ave. L0oniX Sep 2015 #104

she should just stay home and bake cookies? bigtree Sep 2015 #87

Ambitious women are so silly. Its just makes no sense! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #89

Most of us love Elizabeth Warren & wanted her to run. senz Sep 2015 #94

Yet men rarely get criticised for daring to WANT to be President. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #96

Do you hear such criticisms of Carly Fiorina? senz Sep 2015 #108

The OP speaks of wealth and grandchildren, Warren is also a multi millionaire with 3 grandkids. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #106

She has been running for POTUS non-stop for 15 years. hifiguy Sep 2015 #98

History. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #102