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Proud Liberal Dem

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73. Thought experiment:
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

If somebody ran for President saying that they WOULD hesitate to take military action, do you think that he/she would be electable? It's political rhetoric and she, more than any of the other candidates, has to prove that she's "tough enough" for the job. There is the audience to consider as well. Just because she said this doesn't mean that she's going to launch a war against Iran on day one like, say, Scott Walker. Doesn't even guarantee that she's going to launch a war on anybody period. It's stupid that our leaders feel like they have to say such blustery stuff and pander while running for office but it's just a fact of political life, especially when it comes to Democrats, whom are routinely smeared by Republican wingnuts and pundits as "weak on defense" (even though they aren't really, just smarter about it). NONE of the (serious) Democratic candidates are going to come out and say that military options against anybody is "off the table", which is certainly not the same as saying that they are going to bomb everybody either. Even progressive champion Bernie Sanders has stated that he supports the ongoing use of drones. Barack Obama made similar statements about Iran in 2008 and look where we are now.

you didn't vote for all options on the table obama then? nt msongs Sep 2015 #1
All options on the table is fucking LIGHT YEARS away from "I won't hesitate" cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #2
+1 Bubzer Sep 2015 #47
No. I don't want a President like this. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #3
More discussion of this on Lawrence show, elleng Sep 2015 #4
Iran Nuclear Deal liberal from boston Sep 2015 #65
No, that is the last thing we want or need. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #5
And she vows to cozy up to Netanyahu and his apartheid, warmongering policies brush Sep 2015 #6
No, but it's not like this is news. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #7
And one of the founders is a longtime Clinton advisor. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #10
Most of the founders have ties to Clinton, in fact. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #20
We have that President now. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #8
LOL. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #11
Seems to be working out pretty well. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #12
Tell that to refugees from Syria and Libya. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #16
Obama is doing his best to manage a global crisis. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #19
Bushitler and shootemintheface nostradumass destabilized the entire middle east. Now we have lonestarnot Sep 2015 #41
Nope, this is a clear difference from Obama jfern Sep 2015 #15
More spin from WaPo. Watch her speech for yourself. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #17
The saber rattling needs to end... not be perpetuated. We had enough of it with Bush Jr. Bubzer Sep 2015 #49
Hell no. reddread Sep 2015 #9
I will not hesitate to never vote for her jfern Sep 2015 #13
Better yet; I will not hesitate to vote for Bernie! Bubzer Sep 2015 #50
I don't. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #14
No... WillyT Sep 2015 #18
She is really starting to creep me out. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #21
Bernie really really creeps me out moobu2 Sep 2015 #23
One of the better run-on sentences I've ever read. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #25
and hilarious reddread Sep 2015 #28
I tried to read that sentence out loud on a single breath... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #29
Gotta have some hot air to do that lonestarnot Sep 2015 #43
His answer is....drones and we know Gloria Sep 2015 #27
You left out pinko commie. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #30
lol. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #32
! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #37
"He isn't even a democrat either" mindwalker_i Sep 2015 #39
Ahem... pinko commie, volvo driving, latte sipper. Bubzer Sep 2015 #60
Please...the latte MUST be soy. nt adigal Sep 2015 #74
lol Bubzer Sep 2015 #75
Ran out of internet. n/t bvf Sep 2015 #62
Bwaaa ahahaha. Nervous much? lonestarnot Sep 2015 #42
I find it strange that you consider 354 peices of legislation not getting crap accomplished. Bubzer Sep 2015 #58
Massage it, try to get the rest out. Then put an ice pack so the swelling will go down Scootaloo Sep 2015 #59
To quote the great physicist Wolfgang Pauli, hifiguy Sep 2015 #70
Thanks for that Trajan Sep 2015 #79
Did you listen to the speech? Ominous, hushed tones.. frylock Sep 2015 #31
I know what you mean. It goes beyond mere pandering. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #38
Obama has said if the Iranians screwed around he would prevent Gloria Sep 2015 #22
Yeah. Note the difference in the wording maybe? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #24
And she needed to send that message because Obama's wasn't muscular enough? frylock Sep 2015 #33
I support an ex walmart board member who supported the iraq war? Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #26
hillary is w 2.0 restorefreedom Sep 2015 #34
Ouch. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #35
l.o.l. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #36
No. SoapBox Sep 2015 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #44
I want a President who WILL hesitate to take military action. I have never said this and I have Autumn Sep 2015 #45
So, you assume every policy will be like Iran policy... Gloria Sep 2015 #51
You get a grip... I want a President who WILL hesitate to use military force. Autumn Sep 2015 #54
oh please...Mr Peace Prize learned fast about Gloria Sep 2015 #55
The wheels on the bus go round and round eom Autumn Sep 2015 #57
That's it Gloria? LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #72
If you listened closely to that speech you could hear the sound of Obama going under the bus tularetom Sep 2015 #46
No, see above response Gloria Sep 2015 #53
No, we do not. Bonobo Sep 2015 #48
This is her tough act that I've always hated. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #52
get fucking real. it's a show and they all have to say that certainot Sep 2015 #56
I want someone who can convince the 5% or so of folks who might vote for Democrats Hoyt Sep 2015 #61
I don't. Sending people to kill and be killed should give anyone pause. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #63
Primary Posturing silenttigersong Sep 2015 #64
Today is another day. My answer is still fuck no, I want a President who WILL hesitate Autumn Sep 2015 #66
Concur. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #67
....! KoKo Sep 2015 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #69
No. hifiguy Sep 2015 #71
Thought experiment: Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #73
Well hopefully only as a last resort mvd Sep 2015 #76
Not now - Almost got me... NoJusticeNoPeace Sep 2015 #77
Looking for a transcript HassleCat Sep 2015 #78
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