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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: OK I'll just say it: the dem establishment wants to lose this election [View all]laserhaas
(7,805 posts)124. Your remarks are Spot On!,,All Bernie has to do to win
Both the nomination and the Presidency..
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Is to convince Senator Elizabeth Warren to be his running mate.
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The have the same ideals/ values; and the popular vote would be overwhelming
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OK I'll just say it: the dem establishment wants to lose this election [View all]
restorefreedom
Sep 2015
OP
With money and power comes arrogance and complacency. It's not that they don't want to win.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#1
They want a corporate candidate to win. PERIOD. Their owners have spoken, Damn the voters
Vincardog
Sep 2015
#26
Its all about the Plutocracy! They are terrified of Bernie and what he represents, that the
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#77
This election IS the most important election since Lincoln was President! It STARTS with
Vincardog
Sep 2015
#165
You do realize that the relevant will of the people hasn't actually been determined yet right?
mythology
Sep 2015
#298
No. Obviously not. The Dems want to win and the Reps want to win. No politicians or parties want
DanTex
Sep 2015
#8
You are correct. Their scam requires that both parties play along. And Bernie will fuck up the game
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#99
Yes. And Hillary also. And I still don't believe in your conspiracy theories. At all.
DanTex
Sep 2015
#150
Well, most establishment Dems believe that. You are free to disagree, but your disagreement doesn't
DanTex
Sep 2015
#159
What is the evidence for the statement that everyone 'outside the DC bubble" understands
JDPriestly
Sep 2015
#338
It still AMAZES me that anyone around here thinks there is ANY remote sense of
randys1
Sep 2015
#138
No difference, is that what you are saying? I cant respond to a statement that ludicrous
randys1
Sep 2015
#335
So Black lives, Women's rights, Gay rights, not important? Just pocketbook? How about
randys1
Sep 2015
#349
Yes, you said the lives of Black people and Gay and Women are not on the top of your
randys1
Sep 2015
#353
DWS... DWS? You mean the same DWS that campaigned for 3 Republicans in the last election?
A Simple Game
Sep 2015
#319
Just like the Establishment didn't want Elizabeth Warren elected to the Senate?
brooklynite
Sep 2015
#65
Are there any "Centrist" Republicans running whom can even win their party's primary?
Proud Liberal Dem
Sep 2015
#337
Is it not a conspiracy theory? I mean, suggesting that the DNC is trying to sabotage the election
DanTex
Sep 2015
#20
What does that have to do with the theory that they want the GOP to win? Nothing.
DanTex
Sep 2015
#29
Yes. You are correct. It squelches the voices of all dem candidates while allowing the Repuglican
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#105
<< The more they sit there on the stage railing about religion, war, etc. the stranger they seem. >>
Cal33
Sep 2015
#250
I agree. In recent decades, Republicans have been winning elections just as frequently as
Cal33
Sep 2015
#364
Aha, you're saying they lost on purpose. Obviously there is evidence of that. You know, some
DanTex
Sep 2015
#30
"Evidence based person" yet it is overwhelmingly assumption after assumption.
NCTraveler
Sep 2015
#31
Please present other evidence or other conclusions to the evidence that has been offered.
highprincipleswork
Sep 2015
#52
Also some debates are scheduled during major sports games according to several here.
appalachiablue
Sep 2015
#285
Too bad you can't come up with anything that makes sense so you have to start yelling Conspiracy
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#303
It would be similar, but not quite exactly the same. A Corporate Democrat would, for instance,
Cal33
Sep 2015
#40
Yes. Having a corporate Democrat as President effectively muzzles most Democratic dissent
RufusTFirefly
Sep 2015
#94
Pres. Obama certainly was trying very hard for bipartisanship. He appointed 2 Supreme
Cal33
Sep 2015
#371
Absolutely. There may be a few differences, but the "bottom line" will be the same. n/t
RufusTFirefly
Sep 2015
#87
Debbie Wasserman Shultz is turning into the Ralph Nadar of this election.
Baitball Blogger
Sep 2015
#18
in other words there is no need for the Democrats to do any work. All they have to do is
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#34
My guess is that the scientific community has a much different definition of evidence nt
Godhumor
Sep 2015
#22
I actually think there is some wisdom in not deflecting from the Republicans verbal food fight
The empressof all
Sep 2015
#32
When you don't show an alternative, shining in their idiotic glory doesn't work.
jeff47
Sep 2015
#226
I'd be more happy with a bowl of good old fashioned oatmeal and Vermont maple sugar. nt
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#254
Respectfully disagree. I think the corporate establishment wants to win this election
RufusTFirefly
Sep 2015
#45
Eventually the population will wake up and the corporations will have to relinquish power.
Enthusiast
Sep 2015
#63
The real elites don't care one way or the other. They'll get their tax breaks, wars, privileges,
leveymg
Sep 2015
#60
the "meme" would stop if Ds stopped being Wall Street's little dancing poodles at every
MisterP
Sep 2015
#225
If that's true, it was a pretty incompetent move on Hillary's part to come out and say
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#258
True. They would rather have a Republican corporatist in the White House than a liberal Democrat.
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#109
The only way we lose the election is destroying the candidate with the best chance to win with
Hoyt
Sep 2015
#152
The party leadership should act in best interest of the party, not your annointed one.
Hoyt
Sep 2015
#230
Well, I don't think Sanders is a membrr of the party, yet it is very accomodating of him.
Hoyt
Sep 2015
#244
When I see them talking about finding a 'white knight' to 'save' the party from having to nominate
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#261
The problem for corporate Dems is that as things continue to unravel, less "escape" is possible
villager
Sep 2015
#176
One of the problems with that tactic is that if you spend a lot of time looking
winter is coming
Sep 2015
#238
This is someone who teamed up w/ Sheldon Adelson to ensure FL would keep arresting sick pot smokers
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#214
I believe (also) that Debbie is going to kill us. A lot of Elections are won by a fairly small...
BlueJazz
Sep 2015
#209
they've thrown Senate races, and would throw all three branches as long as it meant
MisterP
Sep 2015
#216
Please don't pretend to be evidence based. You ignore facts that don't agree with your outlook.
Persondem
Sep 2015
#249
Sure, I'll gladly admit HRC has baggage, but it's not like the 16 tons of lead
Persondem
Sep 2015
#363
If Bernie Sanders is nominated, I (and my "fat cat" friends) will work like hell to get him elected.
brooklynite
Sep 2015
#268
Great post Nance. We can elect a nominee in the DNC who hopefully win the GE or we can
Thinkingabout
Sep 2015
#358
The lesser would be a Republican getting elected and we would receive lesser.
Thinkingabout
Sep 2015
#361
Dems who support Sanders would mostly support Clinton. The ones who will never support Clinton are-
eridani
Sep 2015
#366
Umm... you do know that Hillary is way ahead in national polls right?
taught_me_patience
Sep 2015
#290
Hillary thought being liberal on social issues was all she needed to do to win the primary.
jalan48
Sep 2015
#296
John Kennedy was so ahead of his time he had a Republican head the Department Of Defense...
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#328
No flaming here. I said something similar myself, that sometimes it almost looks
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#301
Don't agree that Clinton can't beat a Republican--they are all really, really shitty
eridani
Sep 2015
#306
Likely that the conservative interests in the Democratic party would rather
NorthCarolina
Sep 2015
#318
Exactly! They can't assert ignorance following the task force report findings
Cosmic Kitten
Sep 2015
#336
Very same thought crossed my mind earlier today. We are no longer dems vs repubs
corkhead
Sep 2015
#329
Don't know if Dem Establishment is trying to lose, but sure not trying to WIN
Dems to Win
Sep 2015
#346
Nah, they just insist on not losing it and getting a democratic socialist president
HereSince1628
Sep 2015
#372