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restorefreedom

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43. yup. nt

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Not voting for the Dem nominee next Nov is an act of selfish privilege, plain and simple. [View all] DanTex Oct 2015 OP

Let's not have another Florida redstateblues Oct 2015 #1

One could be a conservative. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #2

K &R LW1977 Oct 2015 #3

Do we have to have ten of these a day now? Is that the new normal? virtualobserver Oct 2015 #4

apparently they believe in the restorefreedom Oct 2015 #9

Now that Hillary has been voted "Ms. Inevitable" in the Presidential Pundit Pageant..... virtualobserver Oct 2015 #16

How dare us have a conscience?!?!?! leftupnorth Oct 2015 #23

i know, right? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #35

The same thing would apply if Bernie overtakes her. He can't win without pnwmom Oct 2015 #94

they don't virtualobserver Oct 2015 #104

Huh. I guess some people finally know what it's like to have your vote taken for granted. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #112

Yes. Because it's one of Clinton's biggest vulnerabilities. jeff47 Oct 2015 #21

The beatings will continue until morale improves! leftupnorth Oct 2015 #25

Stupid voters, no, it'll be the old standby, liberals. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #78

The new normal? Probably. MineralMan Oct 2015 #32

Yes, and this was my opinion, and I found the sudden burst of this kind of post notable... virtualobserver Oct 2015 #41

I dunno JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #5

NJ elected Christie, lots of Democrats there said 'so what, why bother' and you have Chris as your Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #58

My friend - I'm well aware of all of this JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #59

You work with Republicans and want lower taxes for yourself. That does not impress me. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #66

I don't mind paying Federal or State Taxes JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #95

Steaming mad, clutching at the bucks, I love NJ and just do not agree with you. You are not Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #136

Well said. nt BootinUp Oct 2015 #6

I agree. That's why every Hillary supporter has pledged to support Sanders should he BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #7

The "my way or the highway" mentality Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2015 #33

The "Horseshoe Theory" BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #39

Those goose stepping hippies! AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #50

? BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #52

I hope you didn't get anything on you when you dragged that theory out of the garbage bin. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2015 #90

Except that's not true, even in this thread you have people who say they won't vote for him if Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #87

I would vote for Sanders if he was the nominee. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2015 #109

WooHoo! Strong stuff here but it gets to the crux of the matter brush Oct 2015 #8

Geez. From the headline I actually thought I might be able to to like one of your posts HERVEPA Oct 2015 #10

"a GOP administration will do real material harm" restorefreedom Oct 2015 #11

On the one hand you think 4 to 8 years is not that long to wait, BootinUp Oct 2015 #19

I've been waiting my entire adult life. jeff47 Oct 2015 #22

Again, not sure I see any actual logic there that would achieve a goal. BootinUp Oct 2015 #40

It's only a turning point if you actually move the status quo. jeff47 Oct 2015 #48

^^^THIS^^^ haikugal Oct 2015 #56

Just because you and many others are pissed BootinUp Oct 2015 #84

Answer me this, how do you know what you can obtain if you don't try for it? A Simple Game Oct 2015 #98

That type of thinking would apply when you have no idea what the opposition BootinUp Oct 2015 #106

yup. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43

i don't believe in miracles restorefreedom Oct 2015 #42

interesting graph you may not have seen BootinUp Oct 2015 #44

uh huh... restorefreedom Oct 2015 #49

Having the GOP in power will make all of that worse. Period. DanTex Oct 2015 #31

i agree with you short term restorefreedom Oct 2015 #38

I understand what you're saying. Another DU'er and I were discussing the possibility of.. BlueJazz Oct 2015 #86

some people take a while to figure it out restorefreedom Oct 2015 #97

Hillary supporters are getting more creative in regurgitating WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #12

Of course it is. It's childish to boot. nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #13

What's worse? leftupnorth Oct 2015 #14

exactly, the only real difference between hillary and jeb is that jeb is more honest bowens43 Oct 2015 #54

What's worse????? dpatbrown Oct 2015 #72

Yes, because a corporatist democrat is not going to nominate justices that will overturn Citizens United leftupnorth Oct 2015 #111

I'm not sure dpatbrown Oct 2015 #114

Only one candidate has said he would nominate justices who would overturn it. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #117

I believe that is incorrect. BootinUp Oct 2015 #121

I have a real hard time believing any of that. Don't ask me why. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #122

Then, you can just say that she claims she will appoint BootinUp Oct 2015 #123

I'm not anti-Hillary. I'm anti-corporatist. This goes well beyond personality and hairstyles. It's principle. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #124

She has put out her policies BootinUp Oct 2015 #125

Yes, and they sound great, but there is no intent to actually implement much of it, if any. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #126

I guess from my point of view, I think someone is wasting my time and BootinUp Oct 2015 #127

See, I'd rather fight and lose on principles than win with the devil on my side. That way, I retain my humanity and dignity. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #128

Yeah me too, what it comes down to is perception just like in all things BootinUp Oct 2015 #130

Possibly. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #132

K&R mcar Oct 2015 #15

This has no effect on me next time try harder and try not to sound so desperate and frignented. YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #17

Oh, I get it. Clintonistas are now afraid she's too weak to win in the general. closeupready Oct 2015 #18

that is exactly it restorefreedom Oct 2015 #51

Then you better get to work providing reasons to vote for her jeff47 Oct 2015 #20

"Better than a Republican" is lame Mnpaul Oct 2015 #120

You're right, fuck my children. Jamie Dimon wants a little more. mmonk Oct 2015 #24

Are you suggesting that your children will fare better under the GOP than the Democratic nominee? DanTex Oct 2015 #26

Nope Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #61

and dsc Oct 2015 #134

Loyalty oaths - TBF Oct 2015 #27

Like Clockwork... Every Time... WillyT Oct 2015 #63

The other one I've seen this morning is TBF Oct 2015 #93

I plan to vote for the GOP candidate, just to piss some people here off Armstead Oct 2015 #28

Yeah, pissing off Clinton supporters is another motivation for sitting out or voting GOP DanTex Oct 2015 #29

K&R RandySF Oct 2015 #30

Given that Progressives could make up a large block of voting Democrats, jalan48 Oct 2015 #34

The main reason I wont vote for clinton is because of her supporters making posts like this GummyBearz Oct 2015 #36

So there! lol. BootinUp Oct 2015 #37

I'm not sure if this is just pathetic or dispicable stupidicus Oct 2015 #45

So vote for Bernie then. cui bono Oct 2015 #46

Exactly, and btw, not voting for Bernie can be seen as an act of selfish privilege as well. Broward Oct 2015 #103

I completely agree! cui bono Oct 2015 #119

Great post Gothmog Oct 2015 #47

Bullshit. bowens43 Oct 2015 #53

Not really unless you live in a swing state (OH, FL, VA, NM, CO, NH). I am in MD and MD's kelly1mm Oct 2015 #55

You do know that in our lifetimes All of those States have voted Republican? Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #60

Sure I do (Reagan 1984). However if this is a wave election like 84 (in either direction) kelly1mm Oct 2015 #64

"it really does not matter if you stay home" Martin Eden Oct 2015 #75

Nice editing job. Did you read the clause before your quote that specifically limits kelly1mm Oct 2015 #81

Those States you think are Democratic by God's will are Democratic by Democratic efforts and Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #92

Nice theory. However if the Democraic nominee for President is in danger of losing Maryland kelly1mm Oct 2015 #99

National elections are on the same ballot as US House, Senate, & local elections Martin Eden Oct 2015 #105

Thank you for the kind words and I could have been clearer in my wording like your linked post is!nt kelly1mm Oct 2015 #108

The reality is this: if Bernie is the nominee the voting population will explode. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #57

^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^ fbc Oct 2015 #68

In reality, manipulation of districting and limits on voting rights will prevent that onenote Oct 2015 #69

Well put dpatbrown Oct 2015 #115

+1 kristopher Oct 2015 #107

I'm a Bernie supporter and I'm going to do exactly what Bernie would do if he isn't the nominee. phleshdef Oct 2015 #62

Me too, and I find it to be very ironic that some who say 'Bernie is not a Democrat' also say Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #83

easy for you to say Robbins Oct 2015 #65

The post overlooks that Hillary Clinton "will do real, material harm to the nation" fbc Oct 2015 #67

Please don't lump all boomers together Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #133

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #70

One of the problems is: edgineered Oct 2015 #71

awful lot of these sorts of threads these days Lazy Daisy Oct 2015 #73

nicely done. restorefreedom Oct 2015 #129

I will not be bullied into giving my vote to a politician I do not want elected. Maedhros Oct 2015 #74

I agree, not would be worse than having some gopiscrap Oct 2015 #76

Absolutely. I guess those so "principled" that won't "compromise" are those so privileged lunamagica Oct 2015 #77

Fine I will vote for her if she is the nominee but let me tell jwirr Oct 2015 #79

AMEN!! I'M A BERNIE FAN, BUT I WILL GLADLY PULL THE LEVER FOR HILLARY! WE MUST NOT secondwind Oct 2015 #80

Be careful - people don't like their privilege identified Stuckinthebush Oct 2015 #82

bully talk isn't how you win elections PatrynXX Oct 2015 #85

I only voted once in a presidential election: 1997. NT. anamnua Oct 2015 #88

I think your premise is wrong, because... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #89

Let me see if I can word this correctly bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #91

Fuck voting party over principles!!! pocoloco Oct 2015 #96

People have been voting party bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #100

Too much is at stake, esp with SC nominees coming up for ANY dem to sit out the riversedge Oct 2015 #101

Not switching your support to Sanders right now is an act of selfish privilege whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #102

I am a Bernie supporter who believes that any eventual winner from the Democratic debate the other Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #110

unrec. - still at it, eh? 840high Oct 2015 #113

You'd think we'd have learned something from 2000. nt BlueCheese Oct 2015 #116

No bigwillq Oct 2015 #118

Then tell Hillary to drop out Reter Oct 2015 #131

It's an act of alienated voters. Strategic voters who are Dems will vote for the nominee eridani Oct 2015 #135

It would be a slap in the face to social liberal groups including pro-choice and gay rights groups AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #137